Demo out on psn+ now! Use this thread to discuss demo!

[Gun_Runner]

First time on this site in a LONG time...mainly due to FIFA's recent dominance in the football world.

But like every year I download the PES demo praying it'll be back to it's old amazing ways - normally just to be let down within playing my 1st match.

However, this time it's different! It doesn't even feel like a PES anymore it seems like a completely different game altogether. The improvements between PES 2011 & 2010 are vast from what I can tell so far.

Because I've not played PES much in the last couple of years I'm struggling to adapt though, for example, in FIFA I'm used to getting the ball down the wing - using the trick stick to annihilate a player then get a cross in. In PES this is a lot more difficult because I think now you have to choose certain feints etc...?(not 100% sure).

But also, the shooting seems off. Don't know if I'm doing something wrong, but it seems that if I shot 5 times outside the box...2 of them would be thunderbolts but the other 3 would be feeble floating shots..?

The penalty kick system is a joke to be honest. The camera angle for penalties is terrible & the overall controls for them is as well. That also goes for FIFA 11 btw, penalties have declined!

 

[Kevthedrummer]

I am so impressed with the demo. It's the first time on the next gen that PES has actually made me want to play more matches. I've only played 3 so far but can't wait to play more. I have been playing FIFA for 2 years, and haven't tried the FIFA 11 demo yet... But haven't wanted to because I've been so immersed in PES. Whether the game will pass the test of time, unlike the previous next gen versions is another matter, but for the first time in years, I am satisfied with the game. It feels a lot freer than ever without losing that PES feel. I think it just delivers everything that they've been promising (for the past 3-4 years).

Extremely happy so far. Can't wait to get home from work and give it another go.

 

[RN50]

Hi, I just signed up to this site 2mins ago. I want to share my thoughts on the new pes demo for 2011 ps3. i was playing it and almost immediately i realised that konami have ruined the series, i was really looking forward to playing this and I been buying pro evo every year since the classic iss pro 98, thats when my conversion from fifa began, and i havent looked back since, until now. I still wont buy fifa because I hate the gameplay, but I wont buy pes 2011 based on the demo either. I have stayed loyal to pro evo since playstation 1 and i have defending it and been a loyal fan but this demo was the last straw buy konami, i am apsoloutely fumming and upset at the same time, thats why i wanted to sign up to this site and share my thoughts with other pes fans, so thanks for reading. Next I am going to outline the changes in the demo i think have ruined the game, so if you want to read on its up to you, if not, thanks for reading my first post and thank you for the option files i have used over the years!

PES 2011 DEMO for PlayStation 3

In the PES vs FIFA war I allways used to say that fifa has better features, music, commentary, licences, graphics and pro evo is better at the gameplay - which at the end of the day is what really matters, is what happens on the pitch, this has for me been the decided factor over the years and i was allways proud about the fact that allthough pro evo was lacking to fifa in alot of aspects, that on the pitch the gameplay in my opinion was far superior. I was thinking as long as they dont make changes to the gameplay then pro evo will allways be better than fifa.

In the demo they have changed the wide camera angle so it has a tilt following left and right, this is a HUGE change to the dynamics of crossing and slide taclking, i was just about to make a slide tackle with puyol and i couldnt even see the ball, i just had to hope he got it, the side on view that pro evo has adopted over the years - what the hell was wrong with it? nothing, when did anyone ever complain about the camera angles? never, so why try and fix something which isnt broke, the very first thing you notice in a football game is the camera angle, and i dont care what you say - im telling you, there was NO REASON to change it!!! and has anyone scored a cracker outside the area yet? rememeber how it used to be awesome in the legend that is pes 6 for the ps2, there going to realism over simulation, they change the things that make them the game what they are, why not change the stupid player menus back to what they were when we saw all of the players attributes on 1 page? the gameplay didnt need a radical make over but konami you have forgotten what has made pes in the first place, they should ask any real pes fan like me and ask what makes pes? licences -no, awesome graphics - no, features - no, its the gameplay, and sadly you have forgotten what made you, I will no longer support pes - they just killed my favourite game :realmad:

lol im still laughing that you joined a PES site just to critise the demo, u must be really bored or have f all to do.

Oh and u do know u can CHANGE the camera angle?

Personally i dont know y someone would want to join a site of a game they dont like just to sayits shit.

 

[im_loving_it]

lol im still laughing that you joined a PES site just to critise the demo, u must be really bored or have f all to do.

Oh and u do know u can CHANGE the camera angle?

Personally i dont know y someone would want to join a site of a game they dont like just to sayits shit.

Both camera angels wide and long have the tilt and yes I did know you can change the camera angle in the game, I been playing pes since 1998, but thanks for recommending that.

 

[owls2k]

i'm sure you'll be able to take the tilt off in the full game

Its not something i'd write 35 paragraphs about.

1 thing that is irritating is the amount of chances im missing in the 6 yard box. Mainly from crosses, they all seem to float over.

 

[The Eristic]

i1 thing that is irritating is the amount of chances im missing in the 6 yard box. Mainly from crosses, they all seem to float over.

After a few more games, I've noticed this as well. Even the tried and trusted "double tap" near post cross invariably travels way too high and long, to the far post and beyond!

 

[im_loving_it]

i'm sure you'll be able to take the tilt off in the full game

Its not something i'd write 35 paragraphs about.

1 thing that is irritating is the amount of chances im missing in the 6 yard box. Mainly from crosses, they all seem to float over.

The side on camera angle has been what pro evo has used since atleast 1998, so like I said - why fix something when its not broke?, but thanks for commenting.

 

[Zardo]

someone please help me I dont know what to do to download the game on xbox in america a lot of people been concerned about this.. I have gold membership it just DOESNT appear in the marketplace

 

[ezio]

someone please help me I dont know what to do to download the game on xbox in america a lot of people been concerned about this.. I have gold membership it just DOESNT appear in the marketplace

You have to create a UK account and get it from there.

 

[Zardo]

You have to create a UK account and get it from there.

But for xbox I dunno what to do, for PS3 I get it. :realmad:

 

[owls2k]

The side on camera angle has been what pro evo has used since atleast 1998, so like I said - why fix something when its not broke?, but thanks for commenting.

It's not fixing something that isn't broken

It's just an option

 

[Guardian452]

Disclaimer - I've only played 6 or so games of the demo...but

.....has anyone else seen the *awful* defending in the 6 yard box. Unmarked opponent players getting in free headers and volleys from crosses seems pretty routine. Mind you I have not played with any tactical settings from default to this point, so I dont know if this is down to dodgy tactical/marking settings. This is all on Professional difficulty too.

Not entirely sold on the demo as yet, but it does look and feel better than previous nextgen PES's. It's good enough that I'm interested in checking out the game after, and will pass final judgement on the end product.

 

[Pride4u]

There is also another thing I miss in the new PES - delayed offsides (or however it is called).

I mean the situation when there is a player in an offside position but doesn't play the ball - such situations should not be whistled.

 

[forzamilan84]

Haven't been on this site for a while. After the AC Milan signings I was finally pumped up about football again, so I decided to look into some games. FIFA I just can't get used to.. I started playing ISS PRO on the PS1 and have loved the series ever since.. through the good and the bad.

Anyway, two things bother me/I question about:

1. I think they should bring in a low shot system - for e.g. if you want to hit the ball low and hard, you tap shoot once and then hold it for power.
2. I do not like the stamina gauges. I can't really tell when the player is tired or not (e.g. red doesn't always mean that he can't play anymore).

 

[ezio]

Just posted this on another site and thought I would share it here:

I was playing a bit more of both demos last night and Fifa was growing on me a bit but then I went back and played PES some more and then something struck me

I was messing around with formations and strategies and the depth of these really struck me. I played 2 games both as Barca vs. Bayern. the first game I went into the simple settings I believe it was and selected offensive (wide) as my option. I don't think I messed with the other settings for how they were going to play like counter for the first 15 minutes etc. but I may have. Using this strategy the game was very wide open and I actually lost 2-0 because Bayren took advantage of the space I was leaving open.

The 2nd game I actually tried defensive wide to see how it would go. It was a much tighter game and Bayern did not press as much and it was more of a midfield battle.

After this experiment my mind started racing There are just so many possibilities with the tactics and and I got me thinking how great it will be during ML for example. Let's say your playing in the CL and it the last group game and you need a draw to advance. Do you go out and play defensive and play for the draw, do you played balanced, do you go for the win etc. etc. etc. You get the idea

To me in Fifa there never is really much need for strategy because the game tends to play the same way.

I have not been a big fan of the last few games but now that they have the game play to go with the depth this game should be amazing when it comes out IMO.

 

[Zardo]

Just posted this on another site and thought I would share it here:

I was playing a bit more of both demos last night and Fifa was growing on me a bit but then I went back and played PES some more and then something struck me

I was messing around with formations and strategies and the depth of these really struck me. I played 2 games both as Barca vs. Bayern. the first game I went into the simple settings I believe it was and selected offensive (wide) as my option. I don't think I messed with the other settings for how they were going to play like counter for the first 15 minutes etc. but I may have. Using this strategy the game was very wide open and I actually lost 2-0 because Bayren took advantage of the space I was leaving open.

The 2nd game I actually tried defensive wide to see how it would go. It was a much tighter game and Bayern did not press as much and it was more of a midfield battle.

After this experiment my mind started racing There are just so many possibilities with the tactics and and I got me thinking how great it will be during ML for example. Let's say your playing in the CL and it the last group game and you need a draw to advance. Do you go out and play defensive and play for the draw, do you played balanced, do you go for the win etc. etc. etc. You get the idea

To me in Fifa there never is really much need for strategy because the game tends to play the same way.

I have not been a big fan of the last few games but now that they have the game play to go with the depth this game should be amazing when it comes out IMO.

the other thing that I hate aboout fifa is that every single player feels the same.. everyone runs exactly the same etc..

Still is a good game but for me not even close to pes 2010, not even imagine to PES2011

The animations still on FIFA are great, the way the headers are taking the crosses to the pitch I mean they are great and the way the players fight the ball is awesome but still is not the same

 

[ezio]

the other thing that I hate aboout fifa is that every single player feels the same.. everyone runs exactly the same etc..

Still is a good game but for me not even close to pes 2010, not even imagine to PES2011

Agreed. It is better in fifa 11 but not much.

 

[im_loving_it]

It's not fixing something that isn't broken

It's just an option

Where do you have the option of playing pes without the tilt like we have allways played pes? - Like i said, why fix try and fix something when theres nothing wrong with it! Try again

 

[James_dean]

Just a quick question.

How often do you use L2 manual passing in the game?

 

[BerbasNo1Fan]

The depth of tactics in pes will be what makes me play it more.