Demo out on psn+ now! Use this thread to discuss demo!
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ezio
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Agreed. I have been messing with some of them and the results are amazing and noticeable right away.
ezio
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Not much to be honest I do it on occasion but it doesn't feel much different than using the regular X button to pass to me.
Just played my first match of the demo, and I'm afraid to say I'm not impressed. Hopefully its just a case of getting used to it, but in all honesty, I'm not hopeful.
Why over the last few years are Konami so desperate to clutter up the menus and formation screen? It used to be so simple too. Could be another year without a footie game (FIFA is always just plain terrible).
Why over the last few years are Konami so desperate to clutter up the menus and formation screen? It used to be so simple too. Could be another year without a footie game (FIFA is always just plain terrible).
Sniper23BG
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Not bad but i found the shooting on the game rubbish ive been playing pes for years passing needs more work on but gameplay a lot improved but my focus is the edit mode i spend all the time editing than playing
so far i give 8/10 for gameplay
7/10 for new features but i havent used them yet so well see but im still curious about the kits because i heard rumours that they have still kepted all the pes 2010 layers for the kits
James_dean
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It takes most people 20-30 matches to start enjoying the game. For me it took 40+ matches
Give yourself some time with the game and be patient or you might be missing the best soccer game that has been made. P.S. This is not a pick up and play game like Fifa is. It takes time to master it and when you do you will have a big organic smile on your face.
It takes most people 20-30 matches to start enjoying the game. For me it took 40+ matches
P.S. This is not a pick up and play game like Fifa is. It takes time to master it and when you do you will have a big organic smile on your face.
I hope your right mate, I'm going to continue to play the demo, and give the actual game a bash one of my mates buys it.
Sniper23BG
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Dont forget the actual gameplay might change so hopefully they may fix the shooting because i usually find it annoying why it keeps going too wide and also the power bar is making it harder to keep it down
im_loving_it
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Why did they change things that didnt need changing? They have forgotten what made pro evo in the first place, apple made the same mistake with their computers in the 90s, then they went back to what them in the first place, and look at them today!
kindfenster
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played the demo for a good 20 matches. I love it. I will certainly give it try. After 4 years of Fifa I'm going to convert back to PES. The demo is really really good.
Not perfect though. But I hope that there will be adjustments in the full game. Thankfully the game speed is adjustable. 0 tends to be a bit too fast. -1 is perfect in my opinion.
I have a question. Since Fifa will allow custom sound files this year.. is there any chance to have those sounds in PES as well? I am not (yet) familiar with the PES editing scene. I've heard about custom kits and names. Too make the experience even more convincing I'd like authentic chants and entrance music as well.
Take a look at this list: Fifa-Custom-Sounds
Is there a chance to incorporate these sound files?
Not perfect though. But I hope that there will be adjustments in the full game. Thankfully the game speed is adjustable. 0 tends to be a bit too fast. -1 is perfect in my opinion.
I have a question. Since Fifa will allow custom sound files this year.. is there any chance to have those sounds in PES as well? I am not (yet) familiar with the PES editing scene. I've heard about custom kits and names. Too make the experience even more convincing I'd like authentic chants and entrance music as well.
Take a look at this list: Fifa-Custom-Sounds
Is there a chance to incorporate these sound files?
pes_legend
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floaty balls, game-breaking flaws, poor graphics, poor animations, dead crowds, and a whole lot more defines pes 2011 for me .
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James_dean
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u might just need strong glassesThomas Kenobi
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My two cents:
For starters, the new passing system is absolutely brilliant! It's one of those remarkable innovations that make you wonder how you ever managed to play football games before it. It simply sets a gold standard for the genre.
Second, the fouls are very much improved this year and now feel logical and tied to the actual tackle. Yellow and red cards also make sense (unlike PES 9-10) and penalties are called fairly. With respect to the latter I like how refs are more cautious about calling them. e.g. a strong jostle that the ref would have immediately called outside the box would rarely be called inside the box, which what most refs would do in real life. There is of course space for improvement here: There is no reason for us to watch every single foul in replay, just the serious ones. Advantage rules need to be implemented better as well as the ability to collect the ball and quickly execute the free kick, even if the ball rolls away.
The new fouling system in combination with the improvements to jostling means that we can now control the pace of the game in midfield. Making a foul to stop the break or covering the ball in offence to seek a foul against us.
Now to the negative. There are mainly three serious things I don't like with PES 2011. In no particular order:
Attacking player returns. Imagine the following scenario: You cross into the box, the defender clears the ball away, but it ends up in the feet of one of your players in the flanks. You seek to make another cross immediately, but you can't... As soon as the ball changed possession, the defenders, rightly, advanced up-field as quickly as possible to relieve pressure in the box and/or prepare for a possible break. However, your own attacking players will only move out the opponents box at a leisurely pace, so by the time you try to make the second cross 2 or 3 of them will be offside... What's more, if after clearing the ball the opponents go on the break half your team will, for the same reason, take forever to return to their own half...
Loose balls. That is another serious issue. When the ball is running loose the AI controlled players of your own team will do nothing to intercept it on their own. The only way to get them to move at the ball is to take control of the nearest player manually, which means that, assuming you are given control of the right player on the first try, your timing will be a bit off. This is crucial everywhere, but more so inside the box, where you can see defenders gleefully ignoring loose balls, while AI team strikers run towards them like bloodhounds. Your players need to be a lot more aggressive towards intercepting loose balls.
These two problems existed in PES 9 and 10, but the last one is new or at least much worse this year.
Goalkeepers. My biggest gripe for this year. Spoken from the perspective of an amateur goalie, GKs are absolutely awful in almost every respect! I can live with the sub-par, compared to the outfield players, animations (while FIFA has amazing goalie animations), but there are certain things in their behaviour that you wouldn't even expect to see in weekend 7-a-side team goalies... For one their positions are frequently wrong. They will blunder too close to one post, leaving the goal exposed. For another their coming of the line, while timed correctly and decisive is sometimes lacking in the dive. They try to dive left or right in situations where they should have instead just made themselves "big" by thrusting hands and feet in all directions.
However, both of these are not particularly frequent and therefore not that serious. What is serious are the deflections which are nothing short of abominable! Simply put, the goalie always attempts to deflect the ball out of play or to the flanks. Never in front of him or inside the box, which is precisely what PES keepers will do 80% of the time. When you see your goalie deflect a ball you know with mathematical certainty that there is going to be a follow up and coupled with the defender's tardiness in intercepting loose balls, it is likely that a striker will get to it first, leaving him with a shot at an open goal...
Deflections such as these would be embarrassing for amateur goalkeepers. When a pro does something of the kind he would attract a lot of negative attention very quickly...
Anyway, just my two -not so short- cents.
Overall, the positives outweigh the negatives and I expect PES 2011 to be a much more enjoyable experience this year.
For starters, the new passing system is absolutely brilliant! It's one of those remarkable innovations that make you wonder how you ever managed to play football games before it. It simply sets a gold standard for the genre.
Second, the fouls are very much improved this year and now feel logical and tied to the actual tackle. Yellow and red cards also make sense (unlike PES 9-10) and penalties are called fairly. With respect to the latter I like how refs are more cautious about calling them. e.g. a strong jostle that the ref would have immediately called outside the box would rarely be called inside the box, which what most refs would do in real life. There is of course space for improvement here: There is no reason for us to watch every single foul in replay, just the serious ones. Advantage rules need to be implemented better as well as the ability to collect the ball and quickly execute the free kick, even if the ball rolls away.
The new fouling system in combination with the improvements to jostling means that we can now control the pace of the game in midfield. Making a foul to stop the break or covering the ball in offence to seek a foul against us.
Now to the negative. There are mainly three serious things I don't like with PES 2011. In no particular order:
Attacking player returns. Imagine the following scenario: You cross into the box, the defender clears the ball away, but it ends up in the feet of one of your players in the flanks. You seek to make another cross immediately, but you can't... As soon as the ball changed possession, the defenders, rightly, advanced up-field as quickly as possible to relieve pressure in the box and/or prepare for a possible break. However, your own attacking players will only move out the opponents box at a leisurely pace, so by the time you try to make the second cross 2 or 3 of them will be offside... What's more, if after clearing the ball the opponents go on the break half your team will, for the same reason, take forever to return to their own half...
Loose balls. That is another serious issue. When the ball is running loose the AI controlled players of your own team will do nothing to intercept it on their own. The only way to get them to move at the ball is to take control of the nearest player manually, which means that, assuming you are given control of the right player on the first try, your timing will be a bit off. This is crucial everywhere, but more so inside the box, where you can see defenders gleefully ignoring loose balls, while AI team strikers run towards them like bloodhounds. Your players need to be a lot more aggressive towards intercepting loose balls.
These two problems existed in PES 9 and 10, but the last one is new or at least much worse this year.
Goalkeepers. My biggest gripe for this year. Spoken from the perspective of an amateur goalie, GKs are absolutely awful in almost every respect! I can live with the sub-par, compared to the outfield players, animations (while FIFA has amazing goalie animations), but there are certain things in their behaviour that you wouldn't even expect to see in weekend 7-a-side team goalies... For one their positions are frequently wrong. They will blunder too close to one post, leaving the goal exposed. For another their coming of the line, while timed correctly and decisive is sometimes lacking in the dive. They try to dive left or right in situations where they should have instead just made themselves "big" by thrusting hands and feet in all directions.
However, both of these are not particularly frequent and therefore not that serious. What is serious are the deflections which are nothing short of abominable! Simply put, the goalie always attempts to deflect the ball out of play or to the flanks. Never in front of him or inside the box, which is precisely what PES keepers will do 80% of the time. When you see your goalie deflect a ball you know with mathematical certainty that there is going to be a follow up and coupled with the defender's tardiness in intercepting loose balls, it is likely that a striker will get to it first, leaving him with a shot at an open goal...
Deflections such as these would be embarrassing for amateur goalkeepers. When a pro does something of the kind he would attract a lot of negative attention very quickly...
Anyway, just my two -not so short- cents.
Overall, the positives outweigh the negatives and I expect PES 2011 to be a much more enjoyable experience this year.
mouhanad.moba
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hey friends plz i just download pes 2011 on my ps3 but when i install it it was sttoped on 15 % something happen like an error plz could u help me
R9NALD9
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hey bud, I had the same error....tried downloading it 3 times and everytime on 14% when installing I got an error. After google-ing it I realised it's quite a common problem around the world for some people...couldn't get it to work, so I'll never try downloading demos again.
mouhanad.moba
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ok bro but could i install it through the pc then i copy it to ps3
R9NALD9
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no unfortunately not dude....not long to wait bro, the full game is coming out across the globe in the next week and a half
mouhanad.moba
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i m waiting broooooo