I was only joking about the whole "Gown" scenario, sorry dude, And its not that I dont get what you are on about, It is a valid opinion that PES on a next gen console, maybee should be better than any version on the PS2, Secifically PES5 or 6, I tend to agree with the logic in your argument, on the other hand if we take stadiums which you mentioned, yes there are fewer stadiums, but I think you will agree that the staduims on PS3 look way better than their PS2 counterparts, for me, I would rather have 10 good looking stadiums, than 25 which look like snooker tables, the grass, the way the nets move, all looks pretty awesome in my opinion, next thing was edit mode, although dissapointing (or non existent) on PES2008, I think the PES2009 edit mode is a lot better than anything on the PS2, Granted there are a few little things missing, i.e. the ability to add sponsors on the back of the shirt etc, which I do like, nothing like properly whoring out the jersey in my opinion, on this subject I like much better the feature of importing PNG files rather than drawing things pixel by pixel, I think you will also agree that the later method can be quite a time consuming pain in the ass. all in all, I dont think Konami have "messed up" so far, I just think that they are obviously still getting to grips with the next gen platform and its capabilities, and how to utilise them to better effect, the only thing we disagree on is how quickly this should have been accomplished. Generally, I like the direction PES is taking, the ability to customise the game has always been important given the lack of licences, and while the features are fine tuned i.e. importing PNG's everywhere, MP3's and chants, Im quite content with the gameplay, visual enhancements and the CL licence, hence the "cut them some slack" argument.
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