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savatorius

Registered User
The bottom line is Konami is lazy, and wants 50 bucks for doing...Hey pes fan boy i will move Kaka from Milan to Real Madrid for 50 bucks what a deal eh?!?!?!?
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
You ( and i mean this sincerely ) are probably the single most DUMBEST person I have met on here. I still stand by what I said about you not having much of a social life. I think you jsut come on here to start shit.

Are you telling me what to play? If I wanna freaking play PES on the PS2 because its clearly better, then Im gonna do that. You my freind may be excited by FIFAs 360 movement...I am not. I played 09 and I didnt like it. The game doesnt appeal to me. So dont come on here telling me whats supposed to appeal to me and whats not.

You come on here talking all this shit about konami and pes...why? You said no one is listening? so why you doing it?

Ill tel you why...its cuz nobody pays attention to you in the REAL world so you come on here and take out u frustrations...go join a fifa forum ( where the producers of gthe game listen ) and help them make better games. If you are so smart, go give them your ideas. They are useless here nobody listens to us...right?

1) You havent met me you idiot its a message board....words on a screen.

2) I think admin needs to shove some tampax up your croutch to stop the bleeding

3) Your not excited about 360 movement? but your more excited about a past it game with 8 directions? If I left you in a room with Jennifer Aniston, would you shag your grandmother because she reminds you of your mother?.......actually we already know the answer.

4) Well done seabass Geisha, im sure he very proud you will still be playing ps2 versions of pes this year, next time you post, dont forget to wear your PES cape and PES pants over your trousers.

5) On a discussion boards, members tend to....you know....discuss things, thus the word forum kinda gives it away. What you are looking for is a monolouge, in your case, the vagina monolouges.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Throwing insults at one another isn't gonna help anyone. Take that sort of stuff to PM.

Come on Baddar, thats as nice as I can be to him, and i was trying to help him deep down by hinting that he can use the latest version of tampax. It leaves you nice and dry and is 10% more effective than the next leading brand.

Now lets talk PES.

What do you think about 360 movement and would you want it in the next pes?
 

dicky_t

Registered User
personally i`m not excited about 360 movement ,as to turn in 360 you have to be stood still ,i cant ever remember playing fifa or pes where i was stood still

now if your refering to a humans turning circle and 360 freedom of movement ,i would like to know how this can be better than 8 way if i was running in a circle the faster i get the wider the circle is going to be ,you can say what you want but you cant manipulate human physical capabilities and 360 is a white elephant

simple truth is faster you are the less turning circle you get any one whos ever done any competitve sport will tell you that
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
personally i`m not excited about 360 movement ,as to turn in 360 you have to be stood still ,i cant ever remember playing fifa or pes where i was stood still

now if your refering to a humans turning circle and 360 freedom of movement ,i would like to know how this can be better than 8 way if i was running in a circle the faster i get the wider the circle is going to be ,you can say what you want but you cant manipulate human physical capabilities and 360 is a white elephant

simple truth is faster you are the less turning circle you get any one whos ever done any competitve sport will tell you that

So if PES 2010 has 360 movement, your not going to be excited then, because your not sure if it can be better than 8 way movement?

Ps. 360 movement just means 360 degrees of freedom, you can move with the ball in any direction as opposed to 8 directions, it doesnt mean we are gonna stand still and do 360's like spinning tops. lol.
 

Steev09

Registered User
I do like the idea of 360 movement, It would give the game a whole new dimension I think, if it is properly implimented of course. I would also like to have the option of using the d-pad as well, to be able to choose my own button configuration I mean, as it would definately take some getting used to.
 

dicky_t

Registered User
So if PES 2010 has 360 movement, your not going to be excited then, because your not sure if it can be better than 8 way movement?

Ps. 360 movement just means 360 degrees of freedom, you can move with the ball in any direction as opposed to 8 directions, it doesnt mean we are gonna stand still and do 360's like spinning tops. lol.

abseloutley not at all ,i grew up in a era of 4 way movement this 8 way is too fangled for me

but i`m making a point about human physical capabilities and balance ,not about people spinning around

now if you mentioned that konami were going to let you set up tactics and posistion players offensively ,and defensively for corners (and pick the defender you wish to control) then i would cancel my latest shipment of viagra
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
abseloutley not at all ,i grew up in a era of 4 way movement this 8 way is too fangled for me

but i`m making a point about human physical capabilities and balance ,not about people spinning around

now if you mentioned that konami were going to let you set up tactics and posistion players offensively ,and defensively for corners (and pick the defender you wish to control) then i would cancel my latest shipment of viagra

Thats a good improvement too, i'd still prefer the 360 movement though.
 

dicky_t

Registered User
to be honest with you ,i only see 360 freedom of movement being a help when playing intricate passing around the box as it would allow the pass you want to play rather than the computers option ,but most ppl just run and work the angle for the shot anyway

other than that it would certainly take the pes to the next level of gaming but only if they implemented a working manual pass but even then a strength guage using the buttons would be better than using the right analogue stick as it doesnt seem to be touch sensitive

and personally i really dont care if konami listens to us ,because if they listened to just ten ppl on this site with different views ,we would end up with a whole new set of stats ,100 stadiums ,an edit option that pleases everyone ,new animations 100 new tricks all on one joypad new nets, no scripting a fully liscensed master league and when the beautifully modled messi dazzles us by beating 5 men with a wonder goal ,and runs up and wipes his ass on the EA advertising board ,someone would only complain that the defending is rubbish!
 

proevofan88

Registered User
1) You havent met me you idiot its a message board....words on a screen.

2) I think admin needs to shove some tampax up your croutch to stop the bleeding

3) Your not excited about 360 movement? but your more excited about a past it game with 8 directions? If I left you in a room with Jennifer Aniston, would you shag your grandmother because she reminds you of your mother?.......actually we already know the answer.

4) Well done seabass Geisha, im sure he very proud you will still be playing ps2 versions of pes this year, next time you post, dont forget to wear your PES cape and PES pants over your trousers.

5) On a discussion boards, members tend to....you know....discuss things, thus the word forum kinda gives it away. What you are looking for is a monolouge, in your case, the vagina monolouges.

1) That is why i said MET ON HERE....meaning on this site. I know I havent met you persoanlly and I doubt that many others have you in person either....( we already went over your social life or lackthereof I should say )

2) The really is no point in you saying that really... I doubt that anyone found it particularly funny..

3) Nice analogy. I am guessing you are comparing the 360 and 8 directional movement. Lets put it this way. A football game has yet to surpass PES5 and PES6... so 8 directional or maybe 16 directional is fine by me as long as we have good animations.

Gotta a question real quick. Dont worry it isnt about how you feel not having many real world friends and much of a social life. Those are facts BUT....please dont doge the question again:

What the hell are you doing on a PES forum discussing PES when NO ONE listens? PES is old news accoring to you...maybe we should all go fuck aniston ( aka fifa 10 ) instead of Ian wright ( PES2010 ) right?

You are a sad being my friend....

TO BADDAR: This is a great site really, but someone needs to check out WENB and how they moderated their forums. Ppl like TECH-skill would be banned in a second.

I know that i reply to him as well in a non constructive way but thats ok, I just let him know how sad he really is.

On WENB, I have not gotten into a single fight yet with anyone because ppl are constructive there and the ones that arent are banned.
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Damn im on another yellow, unfairly though, im working on getting it recinded. haha. Thus meaning I might have to talk about pes properly today, rather than the funnier, easier, and more rewarding task of slagging off proevofan88.

So im gonna lay down today's discussion.

Master League. What exactly does Konami need to implement this year to make you happy? will they finally implement the Champions league into the master league, whats the point of league and master league? fucking pointless shit imo, ditch league, officialise the master league and intergrate the proper CL the very least imo.
 

dicky_t

Registered User
id like to see a multi player master league

maybe one day ,we could have an online master league ,with upto 120 players all controlling a team ,coupled with sites like this ,for ppl who take more than a casual approach to PES

for this year i think asking for more than incorporating CL into the ML with the new game engine and 10 v 10 work would be too much of an ask

but one thing id like to see in future generations of PES is maybe a scenario league

for eg : portsmouth two seasons ago conjured up a great escape ,it would be nice if they gave us a scenario with maybe 10 games left to try and emulate that

or the start of the second half 2005 euro cup final ac milan 3 liverpool 0 ,you have at least 45 mins to try and emulate the real liverpool acheivement

and maybe link these scenarios to trophys
 

CocoBZ

Registered User
id like to see a multi player master league

maybe one day ,we could have an online master league ,with upto 120 players all controlling a team ,coupled with sites like this ,for ppl who take more than a casual approach to PES

for this year i think asking for more than incorporating CL into the ML with the new game engine and 10 v 10 work would be too much of an ask

but one thing id like to see in future generations of PES is maybe a scenario league

for eg : portsmouth two seasons ago conjured up a great escape ,it would be nice if they gave us a scenario with maybe 10 games left to try and emulate that

or the start of the second half 2005 euro cup final ac milan 3 liverpool 0 ,you have at least 45 mins to try and emulate the real liverpool acheivement

and maybe link these scenarios to trophys

Or the legendary Steaua-Barcelona in '86, where Duckadam saved 4 penalties in a row:tongue:
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
id like to see a multi player master league

maybe one day ,we could have an online master league ,with upto 120 players all controlling a team ,coupled with sites like this ,for ppl who take more than a casual approach to PES

for this year i think asking for more than incorporating CL into the ML with the new game engine and 10 v 10 work would be too much of an ask

but one thing id like to see in future generations of PES is maybe a scenario league

for eg : portsmouth two seasons ago conjured up a great escape ,it would be nice if they gave us a scenario with maybe 10 games left to try and emulate that

or the start of the second half 2005 euro cup final ac milan 3 liverpool 0 ,you have at least 45 mins to try and emulate the real liverpool acheivement

and maybe link these scenarios to trophys

They had senario's in the ISS games of old, they were cool, think they were also in later edtions of pes. But yeah, thats a good idea, longer senario's which take place over multiple games.

The one big change which im suprised you didnt say was, being able to change team mid season, thats a cruicial change for me, team should ask for you to be their manager and you should be able to move on midseason or at the end of the season.
 

dicky_t

Registered User
They had senario's in the ISS games of old, they were cool, think they were also in later edtions of pes. But yeah, thats a good idea, longer senario's which take place over multiple games.

The one big change which im suprised you didnt say was, being able to change team mid season, thats a cruicial change for me, team should ask for you to be their manager and you should be able to move on midseason or at the end of the season.

well that for me would be an option in a multi player league for a few reasons

reason 1 ,in master league in single player i only want to play the team i support(altho newcastle are doubtfull to be in pes10 unless they do the championship)

reason 2,the risk of getting sacked or game over in master league are million to one

but in a multi player master league ,you could raise the bar for eg your playing as real madrid and you loose 4 on the spin ,your sacked ,or you fail to challenge for your division championship ,your sacked ,then a player managing a lesser club could be invited to take over

but having said that that could be implemented on a single player mode ,but then nothing attracts you to do so ,than to be at that club ,there is no reward for doing so
my reason being everyone is awarded the same pes points for winning ,but in reality if you were offered the real madrid job you would have major funds at your disposal
now if it was run like that changing jobs would be appealing ,as it would be like management sim and carear sim at the same time as being a football game

now that would be a major improvement instead of the normal blandness we have been offered for last few years
 
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