gameplay alone just doesn't do it

[matthewjohn85]

hello and goodbye pesheads for another year at least as i'm sad to say pes2015 is for sale and i'll be using the money i get to buy fifa15.

many people would of heard me defending the game on here and saying i love it well yes i do love the gameplay, but after a 2 month period of playing the game now im seeing the depth isn't there and the sponsors real names official grounds and everything else off the pitch really does matter to me to give the authentic fill the gameplay deserves, so i'm now switching to fifa to get that real feeling of career mode and even online where i can actually buy a player i want and even if i sell him i could make a profit whereas my club is just simply a con and the online play is terrible. so master league was the only thing keeping me and now sadly it's too repetitive in the same grounds apart from the slight edit's we can do and the commentary is so annoying after two months it's unbearable, and the gameplay is not enough and even this i'm finding a bit repetitive scoring easily and unrealistic goal's so all this said i hope for better thing's off the pitch for 2016 because i'll be back to see if they can maybe get some licences or at least some stadiums , but untill then it's fifa . and the fifa gameplay is actually quite good considering the bad review's it's had so revista de la liga people, goodnite godbless much love. :ninja:

 

[IronCity]

I always think there should be an embargo on anyone writing over the top comments for these football games.

First week to a month of FIFA i was touting it....now i hate it

I never went too crazy over PES, i still like it and enjoy it, but the repetitive negative items that occur all match long and many times a match make me shake my head side to side every time i play.

I think all the PES lovers are starting to turn on the game. I play on ps3 so at least have an OF installed, without it I would be gone.

 

[matthewjohn85]

I always think there should be an embargo on anyone writing over the top comments for these football games.

First week to a month of FIFA i was touting it....now i hate it

I never went too crazy over PES, i still like it and enjoy it, but the repetitive negative items that occur all match long and many times a match make me shake my head side to side every time i play.

I think all the PES lovers are starting to turn on the game. I play on ps3 so at least have an OF installed, without it I would be gone.

i'm also on ps3 but...

iv'e edited the premier league names and championship so having a OF doesn't come into my debate as i play the spanish league and all the teams are licensed and i rarely come up against an english side , it's the same grounds over and over and the commentary and all the other little thing's they seemed to just not bother with as the gameplays superb but that's not enough.

 

[bl8000]

I went back to fifa 15 but its the same deal. Gameplay is no fun so playing the game becomes a chore.

Fifa is basically a goal simulator and not a match simulator.

The fact that all cpu players dribble like neymar and the cpu pass % is constantly in the high 80's because they refuse to play risky passes, instead just building up forever without taking a crack at goal.

I am hoping a pes update and the data pack if it ever arrives will fix up pes.

I own both games and feel less and less like playing either every day.

 

[matthewjohn85]

I went back to fifa 15 but its the same deal. Gameplay is no fun so playing the game becomes a chore.

Fifa is basically a goal simulator and not a match simulator.

The fact that all cpu players dribble like neymar and the cpu pass % is constantly in the high 80's because they refuse to play risky passes, instead just building up forever without taking a crack at goal.

I am hoping a pes update and the data pack if it ever arrives will fix up pes.

I own both games and feel less and less like playing either every day.

i'm not too sure about the full game but i was playing the demo of fifa last night, and one thing if all that i mentioned fifa still has over pes is the ability to score great goals where you just nip it round the keeper by the smallest of margins and it feels like a well worked goal. But iv'e noticed on pes lately the same stupid goals as 2014 are creeping back in where it bazooka's into the net so easily on superstar and the keeper doesn't even take off to save it untill it comes back past him out the net now in my opinion this is a big gamebreaker. not to mention all my other points so fifa has longevity through the year but pes does not have this yet since pes13 as last year i swapped 2014 and this year i'll be swapping again within 3 months.....

 

[IronCity]

at this point, i absolutely need Konami to provide full squads, not this 80% capacity crap they have been peddling.

january transfers probably in march, and i feel a guarantee they will not be complete

 

[matthewjohn85]

at this point, i absolutely need Konami to provide full squads, not this 80% capacity crap they have been peddling.

january transfers probably in march, and i feel a guarantee they will not be complete

i mean what's the point in having a loan system when every real life loan a club has isn't in the game at the start and they just reamain at the club like they own them? how lazy is this for instance? theres so many stupid things konami just don't care about nothing but gameplay which isn't perfect by any means....

 

[asperas]

I went back to fifa 15 but its the same deal. Gameplay is no fun so playing the game becomes a chore.

Fifa is basically a goal simulator and not a match simulator.

The fact that all cpu players dribble like neymar and the cpu pass % is constantly in the high 80's because they refuse to play risky passes, instead just building up forever without taking a crack at goal.

I am hoping a pes update and the data pack if it ever arrives will fix up pes.

I own both games and feel less and less like playing either every day.

Yep fix up but maybe on pes 2016 now we have microtransshit..keep up!

 

[rebelinho]

I went back to fifa 15 but its the same deal. Gameplay is no fun so playing the game becomes a chore.

Fifa is basically a goal simulator and not a match simulator.

The fact that all cpu players dribble like neymar and the cpu pass % is constantly in the high 80's because they refuse to play risky passes, instead just building up forever without taking a crack at goal.

I am hoping a pes update and the data pack if it ever arrives will fix up pes.

I own both games and feel less and less like playing either every day.

Truer words have never been spoken. If I want to dribble and feint and score 30 goals per game I would play FIFA Street 2 (which I still do)

at this point, i absolutely need Konami to provide full squads, not this 80% capacity crap they have been peddling.

january transfers probably in march, and i feel a guarantee they will not be complete

Of course they won't, but everybody knows that in advance. KONAMI rulz!

 

[matthewjohn85]

sold pes2015 privately an managed to get £20 so not bad considering the cheapest you'll get it is ebay and even then you'll do well to get over £20 , so now only have to put about £10 on top for fifa brand new catch you guy's on here in november i suppose or maybe earlier if i decide to check 15 out again when it's dirt cheap preowned in a few months

 

[IronCity]

save your money on FIFA 15

 

[Ali]

sold pes2015 privately an managed to get £20 so not bad considering the cheapest you'll get it is ebay and even then you'll do well to get over £20 , so now only have to put about £10 on top for fifa brand new catch you guy's on here in november i suppose or maybe earlier if i decide to check 15 out again when it's dirt cheap preowned in a few months

Buy something else completely.... something that doesn't involve kicking balls into nets.

 

[matthewjohn85]

Buy something else completely.... something that doesn't involve kicking balls into nets.

and why would i do that? i mean why would i buy anything other than fifa when i sold pes to buy fifa, fifa's not that bad on the pitch , it looks and feels like a football game should and pes just has the latter so.......

 

[rebelinho]

Buy something else completely.... something that doesn't involve kicking balls into nets.

 

[bl8000]

Nice one rebellinho!

Also matt, the demo is better than the fifa full game.

Not sure what happened with the code but in the demo cpu clearances didnt go right to a cpu player all the time. Often they bounced and had to be collected like proper football.

For some reason that didnt carry over to the full game where all they did was remove the incessant cpu bicycle clearances that plagued fifa 14. But they kept the ball going to the cpu logic.

And fifa is also hell bent on the ball always being on some players foot. Fifa hates a loose ball situation so it does everything it can to prevent them from happening.

 

[matthewjohn85]

Nice one rebellinho!

Also matt, the demo is better than the fifa full game.

Not sure what happened with the code but in the demo cpu clearances didnt go right to a cpu player all the time. Often they bounced and had to be collected like proper football.

For some reason that didnt carry over to the full game where all they did was remove the incessant cpu bicycle clearances that plagued fifa 14. But they kept the ball going to the cpu logic.

And fifa is also hell bent on the ball always being on some players foot. Fifa hates a loose ball situation so it does everything it can to prevent them from happening.

i respect what you have said and i know most of the thing's with fifa so im not going to be shocked like iv'e never played the series before, i just can't deal with pes anymore and that's based on 2 months gameplay and i still think it's ok but it needs polishing. and back to what someone wrote on another thread: they are sick of being konami test dummy's and paying for half finished games which get better or worse with updates. i have alot of optimism for 2016 but at least you know what youre getting with fifa and i enjoy the most part of it mainly career and the graphics and realism which is way ahead of pes and IMO it's not as bad in terms of gameplay, if anything it's probably sharper and crisper and smoother on the ball compared to pes in some aspect's. and tbh it's refreshing to play when you see the fault's that pes has and fifa's a finished game at least.

 

[IronCity]

Nice one rebellinho!

Also matt, the demo is better than the fifa full game.

Not sure what happened with the code but in the demo cpu clearances didnt go right to a cpu player all the time. Often they bounced and had to be collected like proper football.

For some reason that didnt carry over to the full game where all they did was remove the incessant cpu bicycle clearances that plagued fifa 14. But they kept the ball going to the cpu logic.

And fifa is also hell bent on the ball always being on some players foot. Fifa hates a loose ball situation so it does everything it can to prevent them from happening.

yes, the clearings and the ball flying on a string to a cpu player after i tackled it away from the cpu dribbler was enough for me to drop it.

the ball is never free in that fifa game. pes suffers from this (see lobbed balls) but nothing as bad as fifa.

 

[Ali]

and why would i do that? i mean why would i buy anything other than fifa when i sold pes to buy fifa, fifa's not that bad on the pitch , it looks and feels like a football game should and pes just has the latter so.......

Because football games are crap? :erm:

 

[matthewjohn85]

yes, the clearings and the ball flying on a string to a cpu player after i tackled it away from the cpu dribbler was enough for me to drop it.

the ball is never free in that fifa game. pes suffers from this (see lobbed balls) but nothing as bad as fifa.

i respect what you have said and i know most of the thing's with fifa so im not going to be shocked like iv'e never played the series before, i just can't deal with pes anymore and that's based on 2 months gameplay and i still think it's ok but it needs polishing. and back to what someone wrote on another thread: they are sick of being konami test dummy's and paying for half finished games which get better or worse with updates. i have alot of optimism for 2016 but at least you know what youre getting with fifa and i enjoy the most part of it mainly career and the graphics and realism which is way ahead of pes and IMO it's not as bad in terms of gameplay, if anything it's probably sharper and crisper and smoother on the ball compared to pes in some aspect's. and tbh it's refreshing to play when you see the fault's that pes has and fifa's a finished game at least.

Because football games are crap? :erm:

na mate i love em! besides my only other option is to stand over the nearest dual carriage way and launch driver's into oncoming traffic :crymore:

 

[Ali]

na mate i love em! besides my only other option is to stand over the nearest dual carriage way and launch driver's into oncoming traffic :crymore:

They're addictive, yes, but certainly not good!. And trust me, as a man who has played both, PES is certainly the best of a bad bunch this year. I still play PES most days, despite hating a lot of it, don't feel the urge to ever go back to Fifa.