THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE POSTING ESSAYS IF IT'S NOT ABOUT THE GAME?
What a lunatic!
If you are against war, would your argument have anything to do with starting a war or manufacturing nuclear weapons?
My argument is about the game, obviously, but cannot be settled nor understood by playing the game due to obvious reasons.
PES11 has nothing to do with football, in order to understand my argument, you need to understand how real football functions.
And there lies your problem, you are judging a football simulation which is played from a wide view perspective without actually understanding how football should be played from a wide view perspective.
Here is my argument: you can cover spaces of over 50 feet of distance by simply directing the left analogue stick without the assistance of a sprint button; this is in fact a massive restriction.
You can experience that fact by playing the game, but how can you know how massive this restriction is by simply playing PES11?
Playing the game will not give you any answers, on the contrary, playing the game will limit your mind into thinking about that dumb concept....
Thinking about ideas that fit into such a stupid concept, instead of thinking about the root of the problem responsible for the all the flaws: the functioning of the left analogue stick determines how the game can and will play.
Instead of paying so much attention to details, you should pay more attention to the important facts; and playing PES11 will not expose this flaw, watching real life football and then playing PES11 will expose the flaws.
But that's the difference between you and I, you are here insulting me for no reason, I am here informing you without the necessity of childish insults.
Watching real life football has a lot more to do with my argument, playing the video game is secondary.
You can approve or discredit the credibility of my argument by playing the video game, but if you do not even understand football, then you will not even notice the many restrictions of PES11.
Which is why, I said that my argument has nothing to do with playing PES11, because PES11 is a simulation game; you might want to actually understand Football, before judging on how good PES11 or FIFA11 are; compare it with the thing it is supposed to simulate.
First it's i don't have the game
Now you say it's because PES dosen't require skill and should be taken seriously.
Last time i checked PES was a video game, not a serious real life match.
What you fail to understand is if you believe PES 2011 isn't to be taken seriously then what harm would playing vs Football777 be? If you win or lose will it matter, i mean your a 'skilled gamer' so you should win right?:huh: .
Now you hopefully understand how much you completely contradict yourself
Bomber Man, video game, can be taken seriously; you can bet money on it.... knowing that the outcome will be determined by your skill, and not by the whim of a computer.
Super Smash Brothers, video game, can be taken seriously; you can bet money on it.... knowing that the outcome will be determined by your skill, and not by the whim of a computer.
Pro Evolution Soccer 2011, video game, cannot be taken seriously; the computer interferes with everything, the computer dictates the script, the game is automatic and scripted, it lacks the components of a good video game.
I don't follow you. So what if PES is a video game, how can you justify the fact that PES11 is a dumb video game? The PS3 Console can handle a far more clever and structured video game.
I am not worried about loosing or winning in a game that I know is poorly designed. My point was very simple and very clear, it has absolutely nothing to do with worry.
It has a lot to do with the sluggish and unresponsive and automatic and imprecise tackling system, and defensive system; where you cannot measure the direction of the tackle nor the distance of the tackle, you cannot affect the direction in which you tackle without affecting the direction in which you run without the ball.
It also has a lot do with the outdated dribbling system, where it is impossible to affect the direction in which you dribble with the ball without affecting the direction in which you run with the ball: repetitive, predictable, restrictive, unavoidable, automatic, outdated, etc.
It barely requires any skills and it barely has any variations, it is automatic and restrictive, you do not use the skills, the skills work automatically: making it harder to dribble with Lio Messi, making it harder to run past a defender -- does not changes the fact that the STATS which are attached to the left analogue stick work automatically because the left analogue stick functions the same way it functioned 12 years ago.
A simple example to explain this briefly, would be to compare the right analogue stick dribbling tricks of PES11 and FIFA11.
Any noob can use the right analogue stick dribbling tricks of PES11; on the other hand, the right analogue stick dribbling tricks in FIFA11 require more skills and more precision from the user.
I am not saying that the FIFA11 system is that much better, but it is more difficult to use, and yet less systematic and more organic than the L1 + right analogue stick procedure that PES11 requires.
With that said, the FIFA11 dribbling tricks are also restricted by how the left analogue stick functions, but it requires more skills from the user.
A skillful gamer would play FIFA11 and use the dribbling tricks, and then play PES11 and use the dribbling tricks, and PES11 would feel more automatic; mind you that both systems are automatic due to how the left analogue stick functions, it's just that the execution of PES11 feels even more automatic than the FIFA11 dribbling gimmicks.
Anyways, I disagree with you, I have not contradicted myself; my argument is fairly simple, and my opinion is also quite simple.