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is the AI cheating?

Is the AI cheating?


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skickahit10

Registered User
I played 3 games (demo #2) today and I lost every single one due to some crap-cheating/bugs.

It pisses me off. Big time. So much that I had to create this poll.
 

techboy11

Registered User
Absolutely one hundred per cent yes. You can play a certain way, that is keep retreating, all the time, until you eventually crowd out the CPU, but they still have Jedi reflexes on demand. And I played a game today where I had two deflective AI cheat deflected goals v Chelsea. I scored, instant reply with deflection, I scored again, instant reply with the most ludicrous deflection I've ever seen in ANY PES game.
 

abu97

Registered User
yeah also when your in the lead, the keeper lets in the stupidest of goals you ever come across - once the ball was travelling 0.5km per hour and the keeper watches in go in through his legs and i nearly broke my controller
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
Don't swear in thread titles, even if it's "bleeped" out. Thanks.

I've amended the title, but at least you now know for future reference.
 

techboy11

Registered User
yeah also when your in the lead, the keeper lets in the stupidest of goals you ever come across - once the ball was travelling 0.5km per hour and the keeper watches in go in through his legs and i nearly broke my controller

lol. That Chelsea game I spoke of, I just couldn't take any more. I was getting tired, I fully deserved the win, and the CPU just raped me twice blatantly. It wasn't even funny.

I hit my forehead so hard with the point of the PS controller I'm surprised I didn't crack my skull. The point is, you work SO hard to get goals in this game that it'd doubly unfair when you get shafted.
 

abu97

Registered User
if i'm very angry and i fully 100% deserved that win, i quit without saving and i let the coach take in charge until i win. i know you think i'm cheating but it doesn't matter as the ai cheats so it balances it out if you know what i mean
 

Ultimate777

Banned
Not this shit again. Seriously get a grip. If you lose, it's because you didn't adjust your tactics enough to adapt to the opposition or quite frankly you are just not as good as you think you are.

What kind of overgrown baby quits before saving? You want to win every match? Seriously what's the point of playing the game if you're going to reset every time the game doesn't go in your favour?
 

Ali

It is happening again
The scripting is part and parcel of PES. I can't see it being any other way. Those who deny that there is scripting aren't looking hard enough. You can often tell that there's gonna be a goal even before your opposition has gotten anywhere near your box. Even in multiplayer.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
ML and BAL is near unplayable because of it. Well, BAL can be played without too much grief, but ML is ridiculous as usual. You can smell a goal against a mile away, because suddenly you can't do anything against the ball carrier, even your intentional fouls miss the target, or more often magically slide right through.

An example;
I lost 3-0 away against Juventus in the CL qualification, so in the home game I went gung-ho to give it a shot at least. At half time I was leading 3-0 after a stunning half, but I feared the AI and kept on the pressure and was leading 5-0 at 85 minutes. I was keeping possession, I was tackling like a god and everything was well. Suddenly I was unable to get the ball the last five minutes, and the game ended 5-2. Juventus through on away goals... just pathetic. I tried keeping possession all the time the last 5, but my players hardly moved when I was passing to them, and the Juventus players was 50% faster than mine in all situations. My keeper was retarded as well, but that happens all the time, so that could just be a coincident.

STUPID! I was doing the same thing all along, my players stopped responding, and the opponents got injected amphetamines. Typical konami script behavior from earlier releases.

EDIT: This was the first CL match, the second match into my ML career, the first one was a training match. So if this kind of annoyances sets the standard right from the start, I think the whole game mode is botched to be honest.
 

abu97

Registered User
actually i don't quit every match without saving only the matches that are about to cause me a broken controller. anyway you feel better after you win it using your coach eventhough you can feel a hint of guilt.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
No, pes12 got better ai. But it's just as annoying at times. I wouldn't call any of them good tbh. But you'll learn to live with it, and a comfort is that FIFA's AI is worse.
 

skickahit10

Registered User
Not this shit again. Seriously get a grip. If you lose, it's because you didn't adjust your tactics enough to adapt to the opposition or quite frankly you are just not as good as you think you are.

What kind of overgrown baby quits before saving? You want to win every match? Seriously what's the point of playing the game if you're going to reset every time the game doesn't go in your favour?

Don't know who your reply was directed to, but I can at least say that the "bug/cheat-goals" I conceded had little to do with inferior tactics but rather with a goalie who spills extremely simple balls into his own net, a messed up physics engine that allows free-kicks when an attacker gets nudged by a defender by running into him when he's already laying down, attackers who will all of a sudden cancel a perfect run for no apparent reason, unwanted cursor-switching, etc.

That's the kind of crap that makes my blood boil. And threads like these to get started.
 

SwitcherooU

Registered User
actually i don't quit every match without saving only the matches that are about to cause me a broken controller. anyway you feel better after you win it using your coach eventhough you can feel a hint of guilt.

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with re-starting a match you've lost/will lose due to EXTRA-stupid sh*t (not the kind of REAL stupid sh*t you see from time to time in actual soccer), so long as you can accept losing the second time around as well.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Fellow PC gamers, rejoice!



As for all you console losers, you're fucked. But I guess you already knew that ;)

Anyway, Jenkey1002 did the exact same type of patching for PES2011, and it resulted in a much more enjoyable game. Not sure how this affects online modes though.
 

techboy11

Registered User
As a PS3 owner with a mediocre PC that is incapable of playing PES properly - my heart sinks! Unhappy smiley
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
Fellow PC gamers, rejoice!



As for all you console losers, you're fucked. But I guess you already knew that ;)

Anyway, Jenkey1002 did the exact same type of patching for PES2011, and it resulted in a much more enjoyable game. Not sure how this affects online modes though.

I can't wait for that.
 
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