Money matters!

[coolio_jack]

What are you mate 15? ARE YOU THE BEST PLAYER OF PES IN THE WORLD? What makes you think people do not know how to play a game since you never played against them??? Your comments are honestly pathetic and useless... for a thread that was made with the objective of having useful insights and so far you gave none... hence the reason I still believe... you DO NOT HAVE A LIFE and chances are your mummy got the game for you. Yep yep... now PLEASE... add something EXTRA to your life (if I can say that) and go play some more PES. YOU ARE SET TO BECOME THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD AND EVERYBODY HERE AT PES GAMING.COM WANTS TO SEE YOU WIN ALL COMPETITIONS, EACH ONE OF THEM, EVERY DAY SO YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST TEAM WITH ALL SUPERSTARS, EVEN THOSE THAT DO NOT EXIST YET, BECAUSE YOU, ARE THE GREATEST PLAYER AND THE VOICE OF TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO PES! GOD... WHAT AN ACHIEVEMENT! WE ARE ALL SO PROUD OF YOU AND WE ALL WISH WE COULD PLAY LIKE YOU! HAPPY NOW? GOOD..............

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Now, take a breath, and notice the diffrence between your style of writing and mine, and then take a wild guess who's the more mature one here.

I never mentioned anything about me being good, i'm just annoyed when people blame everything besides themselfs. Sign of immaturity.

 

[Svisma]

Sorry, but its true you are just not good enough if you are having problems like this. Svisma's math is poor, who earns just 50.000 per match?

People who play quickmatches. And sometimes its even below that. And so what if I am not that good. I am crap at this game. But you know what? That shouldn't matter. In other games where its XP based you can raise XP or cash in many diffrent ways. Why not in PES MLO?

I work 11 H each day (Exept Saturday and Sunday) when do I have the time to raise 150£m? The system should be easier thats all. I love buildning teams and i don't need Messi or players like that. But I would be happy if I could get more then a "great" player.

You have to understand that there is more to life then PES: But you seem to be 11-16 year old anyway.

 

[david_bueno]

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Now, take a breath, and notice the diffrence between your style of writing and mine, and then take a wild guess who's the more mature one here.

I never mentioned anything about me being good, i'm just annoyed when people blame everything besides themselfs. Sign of immaturity.

You're still posting? Of course you are... the voice of WISDOM. C'mon man... going out tonight... have some fun with Messi and Ronaldo.

 

[david_bueno]

People who play quickmatches. And sometimes its even below that. And so what if I am not that good. I am crap at this game. But you know what? That shouldn't matter. In other games where its XP based you can raise XP or cash in many diffrent ways. Why not in PES MLO?

I work 11 H each day (Exept Saturday and Sunday) when do I have the time to raise 150£m? The system should be easier thats all. I love buildning teams and i don't need Messi or players like that. But I would be happy if I could get more then a "great" player.

You have to understand that there is more to life then PES: But you seem to be 11-16 year old anyway.

Could not agree more! PS: is a bit difficult to be AS GREAT as coolio jack.... working 10 hours a day + 5 hours on Saturdays.

 

[Svisma]

I am not that bad by the way. When I play a normal match, not MLO - I usually win and I never use teams like R.Madrid.

 

[coolio_jack]

Really pathetic replies from both of you. Claiming you're spending more valuable time than others just because they dont have the same problems as you. You acted like i insulted you in some way, unless telling you are doing something wrong in pes is a personal insult for you ?

Your comments about me bragging are totally not called for, i never for once said anything about myself. You complained about the money system, which is perfectly fine for most of people, there's already too much superstar teams, and you want even more of them?

You want a good team, but you dont have time, and because of that you want to make the game much easier for everyone? You want to spend that little free time you have on pes, and then i take pes too seriously?

Svisma you once opened a thread how to cheat because you dont have a time to build a team properly, and im the 11-16yrs old?

You even complained about my further posts, while i brought some good points about the subject, unlike your useless complaints in "konami sucks" style. Raising money in the begining is hard, you just have to overcome that period, later it goes much faster. The fact that some are sucessfull, and some arent, show's that the money system is just fine. If noone had problems rasing money, then it would had serious issues.

 

[BuddhaBone]

Guys, no reason to be unhappy. Superstar-Teams are boring anyway after some while. They all behave nearly the same and you nearly never need any skill to complete normally difficult situations.

I just went over to sell like 15 of my 20 players, kept a very good one in each part of the team and bought like 20 other new players which I are good but not the creme de la creme, just to have some variety after so many months. Just through this transaction my team balance dropped from 105 mio to 92... So don't grieve, just play and enjoy what you have. "Things will get better" (with PES 2012) should be your hope if anything else fails. After its release you will have to find another excuse of course *g*

 

[BuddhaBone]

*doublepost* Fuck company-internet

I miss a delete button...

 

[BuddhaBone]

*triplepost* Fuck company-internet

 

[luik^3]

seems like te next gen games also brought some next gen gamers, the 'i want it all, and i want it now!'-types, gamers have been far too spoiled lately with games which were too easy to achieve.. Lets just respect the superstar teams with their achievement and try to beat them with your lesser team to earn the same respect (at least for yourself .. )..

 

[alx-9]

What are you mate 15? ARE YOU THE BEST PLAYER OF PES IN THE WORLD? What makes you think people do not know how to play a game since you never played against them??? Your comments are honestly pathetic and useless... for a thread that was made with the objective of having useful insights and so far you gave none... hence the reason I still believe... you DO NOT HAVE A LIFE and chances are your mummy got the game for you. Yep yep... now PLEASE... add something EXTRA to your life (if I can say that) and go play some more PES. YOU ARE SET TO BECOME THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD AND EVERYBODY HERE AT PES GAMING.COM WANTS TO SEE YOU WIN ALL COMPETITIONS, EACH ONE OF THEM, EVERY DAY SO YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST TEAM WITH ALL SUPERSTARS, EVEN THOSE THAT DO NOT EXIST YET, BECAUSE YOU, ARE THE GREATEST PLAYER AND THE VOICE OF TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO PES! GOD... WHAT AN ACHIEVEMENT! WE ARE ALL SO PROUD OF YOU AND WE ALL WISH WE COULD PLAY LIKE YOU! HAPPY NOW? GOOD..............

Total overreaction and a very immature one too.


If you don't have the time to build up your team (which is a long term project) then simply don't play this mode or shut up and accept the circumstances.

As others have mentioned, it would be stupid to increase the cash income as it would severely reduce the life span of MLO. Like I said, this mode is a long term, its not XP based like other games where you will unlock super object X after just a couple of hours playing.


I don't get it, if you want to use the super stars just play normal online mode and pick Barcelona or Real Madrid. If you want to build a team but don't have more than an hour a day, then just take your time and make small steps. Eventually after many months you will get there and it would be a big feeling of satisfaction to have come so far.

 

[Svisma]

Wait. I never said I wanted a superstar team. I don't want 100€m in one go, I just want to make money faster. Thats all. If this meens that you can shorten then match time or be in a fast knock-out cup - that dosn't matter.

But at the end in this case is about time. I know people are putting loads of time and they should be better/have more player thats a fact. But why not balance the game and put limits on it?

I am not mad or upset, I just don't agree with you. And the age was a question not a "mark"/"mucking". Anyways. Have a nice day to you all.

 

[iamcanadianeh]

I agree with the point that there are some people playing this game who have way too much time on their hands. I played a guy the other day who is up past 1600 matches. I feel like I play the game a lot but I'm at about 200-250 matches!

Anyway, I think the original poster is missing the real problem.

The problem is not that you don't get enough money... I think they have the payback about spot on actually, because after about 200-250 games my team is starting to get quite good, and you wouldn't want to reduce the longevity of the mode by making it take only 100 games to get a good squad.

The real problem is that I have to play these guys who have no life (or at least way better squads, somehow).

IMO the whole problem would be better solved by making the divisions mean something. In other words, at least give me the option of playing only against players in the same div as my team is, or the same relative team strength.

The suggestion that we should just get more cash per win is simplistic IMO and not all that well thought out. If you did that, the game would lose longevity and it would become a ridiculous contest in which every game was messi and ronaldo versus messi and ronaldo. To some degree that's already the case, so I'm just saying that I would hate to see them make the problem worse rather than better.

 

[Svisma]

seems like te next gen games also brought some next gen gamers, the 'i want it all, and i want it now!'-types, gamers have been far too spoiled lately with games which were too easy to achieve.. Lets just respect the superstar teams with their achievement and try to beat them with your lesser team to earn the same respect (at least for yourself .. )..

For that, I have owned a computer since I was 8 years old. I had my first Nintendo when I was 3 years old. Suck on that one. You are most likley to be the "next gen".

 

[luik^3]

oke oke.. But you must agree that a lot of games have become far to easy to achieve lately, especially when you compare the 'old school' games. I like it that you really need to invest time and develop some skills (scouting skills, tactic skills and playing skills), to get a decent team together.. But well.. Everybody has his own opinion and thats ok for me..

 

[brunosebalo]

I agree with the point that there are some people playing this game who have way too much time on their hands. I played a guy the other day who is up past 1600 matches. I feel like I play the game a lot but I'm at about 200-250 matches!

Anyway, I think the original poster is missing the real problem.

The problem is not that you don't get enough money... I think they have the payback about spot on actually, because after about 200-250 games my team is starting to get quite good, and you wouldn't want to reduce the longevity of the mode by making it take only 100 games to get a good squad.

The real problem is that I have to play these guys who have no life (or at least way better squads, somehow).

IMO the whole problem would be better solved by making the divisions mean something. In other words, at least give me the option of playing only against players in the same div as my team is, or the same relative team strength.

The suggestion that we should just get more cash per win is simplistic IMO and not all that well thought out. If you did that, the game would lose longevity and it would become a ridiculous contest in which every game was messi and ronaldo versus messi and ronaldo. To some degree that's already the case, so I'm just saying that I would hate to see them make the problem worse rather than better.

Yeah the divisions should mean something after setting the quick match settings for similar level opponents every now and then I still paired up with 100+ million squads no fun at all since they only through ball to Arshavin or pass and send their players to run..the other day this dude was sending puyol and vidic to the attack every time they passed the ball lmao

 

[Kimsan]

hard have star player when u play at low division if u wan make money. sold some player and use default player on sub to save cost.

 

[Vasbor70]

Ruskin
Valeny
Beria
Kieran Gibbs

If I pay 330.882 EURO to enter a competition, I hardly make any money once I reach the end of the competition itself, because I hardly manage to get to the last 16 Round due to people having the likes of Messi, Zarate, Kaka, Robben and everybody else which is a superstar on the same team.

Excuse me m8,but have you ever tried to make your team a bit more balanced?
Mean,you have Pato,Babel and Maxi in attack,but same moment your defensive/defending midfield line looks very weak tbh.
May be,your defenders is the main reason,why you hardly manage to get the last 16 Round and have a problems with Messi,Kaka,Zarate etc?

 

[heringer]

Yeah, i think that's the point.

I played less than 50 online matches since december because of these time issues and i am less than a regular player. So, i didnt make much money yet and i have a regular squad.

I use that option to play against similar level oponents, but it really doesnt work, like youarecanadianeh mentioned.

But i am ok with that. I feel like i own a small team that is making its way. It's challenging to try to defeat the superstars and cia. And i see i will play this game for a long time, because it will take a long time to achieve the top divisions.

On each new version of PES, i have more fun, and i am always looking forward for the next version.

By the way, does any one here knew the first konami soccer? Search for it: Konami's Soccer 1985 (MSX)
http://www.generation-msx.nl/msxdb/softwareinfo/472

I agree with the point that there are some people playing this game who have way too much time on their hands. I played a guy the other day who is up past 1600 matches. I feel like I play the game a lot but I'm at about 200-250 matches!

Anyway, I think the original poster is missing the real problem.

The problem is not that you don't get enough money... I think they have the payback about spot on actually, because after about 200-250 games my team is starting to get quite good, and you wouldn't want to reduce the longevity of the mode by making it take only 100 games to get a good squad.

The real problem is that I have to play these guys who have no life (or at least way better squads, somehow).

IMO the whole problem would be better solved by making the divisions mean something. In other words, at least give me the option of playing only against players in the same div as my team is, or the same relative team strength.

The suggestion that we should just get more cash per win is simplistic IMO and not all that well thought out. If you did that, the game would lose longevity and it would become a ridiculous contest in which every game was messi and ronaldo versus messi and ronaldo. To some degree that's already the case, so I'm just saying that I would hate to see them make the problem worse rather than better.

 

[gunnerglow]

It does make things unfair that some pepole have a lot more time to play MLO than others, obviously the way things work with the current system is to blame.
Your income is directly related to the amount of matches you play, if you can't play much, you have no chance of getting a decent value squad.

This could be changed, How about relating your income to your weeks performance/division. Recieve a lump sum at the end of the week/season. This could be calculated using this method of divisions.....

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=83886

Please have a read of this idea and leave some feedback guys