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Patch 1.2 first impressions

techboy11

Registered User
Hmm, interesting stuff. I'm going to add points as I find out to get a kind of overall feel.

1) Have to play on Top Player until I unlock Superstar
2) Played three games, won one 3-2, lost the first 5-1 and lost v Man U 3-0, it certainly has changed
3) Previously my defensive play was exceptional, I'm leaking goals now
4) POSSESSION - this is huge for me, the CPU are having much, much more possession and seem happier to hold onto the ball for longer periods around my eighteen yard box
5) Feel a bit cheated at the moment as goals are reigning in against me, but the CPU feels more potent and more like a competitive footy team for once
6) CPU winning vast majority of headers, although I put this down to cheat mode Top Player
7) Will continue to delve...
 

lawjm4

Registered User
Its the graphics they need to patch fired up 2011 last night and the graphics are so downhill in this version how can the game look worse a year on
 

stingo

Registered User
If they improved goalkeepers without adjusting shooting doesn't it mean that scoring is more difficult now? It is already hard to score in ML with a default team and this could make it even worse.
 

metsuri69

Registered User
Hmm, interesting stuff. I'm going to add points as I find out to get a kind of overall feel.

1) Have to play on Top Player until I unlock Superstar
2) Played three games, won one 3-2, lost the first 5-1 and lost v Man U 3-0, it certainly has changed
3) Previously my defensive play was exceptional, I'm leaking goals now
4) POSSESSION - this is huge for me, the CPU are having much, much more possession and seem happier to hold onto the ball for longer periods around my eighteen yard box
5) Feel a bit cheated at the moment as goals are reigning in against me, but the CPU feels more potent and more like a competitive footy team for once
6) CPU winning vast majority of headers, although I put this down to cheat mode Top Player
7) Will continue to delve...

The part about cpu possession sounds good. Very good
 

Makavelian

Registered User
Are you taking the piss or are you being serious? As you were pretty disappointed with the game

Nope.
It has made online great again.
Funny been playing some high ranked players who would just end up over-running my average team eventually with there speedsters, but there lame tactics for scoring are a lot harder to pull off now.
Messi and Ronaldo are a lot more containable with clever defending.
Shooting has been vastly improved online.You can pick out your corners more now with the finesse shot.Game play seems slower.Or maybe it's just that the dribbling has been toned down.

lollol their is nothing wrong with the shooting

put it on manual and stop compalinging
Is there such thing as manual shooting?
I think your getting confused with turning off the automatic shooting when the A.I will in certain circumstances score for you when you don't even press shoot.
 

Ali

It is happening again
New patch, same old shit, as far as I'm concerned.

Oh yes, I can see how they've fixed the free kicks. I conceded a free kick..... but this time, the CPU didn't score directly.... however they did score when the ball rebounded off my wall straight to the kicker..... so good job there Konami! Well fixed. Shooting is still crap, passing is still crap, keepers are still crap, scripting is still blatantly obvious. This patch addresses non of the major issues, in my opinion.
 

DIECI

Registered User
Hmm, interesting stuff. I'm going to add points as I find out to get a kind of overall feel.

1) Have to play on Top Player until I unlock Superstar
2) Played three games, won one 3-2, lost the first 5-1 and lost v Man U 3-0, it certainly has changed
3) Previously my defensive play was exceptional, I'm leaking goals now
4) POSSESSION - this is huge for me, the CPU are having much, much more possession and seem happier to hold onto the ball for longer periods around my eighteen yard box
5) Feel a bit cheated at the moment as goals are reigning in against me, but the CPU feels more potent and more like a competitive footy team for once
6) CPU winning vast majority of headers, although I put this down to cheat mode Top Player
7) Will continue to delve...


have you tried online? concerned about the tackling and defense online.
 

Griciu

Registered User
Played about 8 games already with the new patch. What I can say so far... Penalties, it's a little bit harder to score now. Tackles seem improved a bit, it slides for a little longer and reaches the ball better, at least from what I've seen. Shots were not improved to me. Free Kicks seem better a little, FK's around 19-20m are easier to take now. If before, most of them were either hitting the wall or went way higher than you wanted, now it goes perfect imo. You can actually score now, it's softer.

Also the biggest improvement, by far, you can no longer dribble the keeper. You better pass it or shoot it. :) Awesome improvement imho.
 

Makavelian

Registered User
It's clear online has benefited more from this patch.Offline single player is just shite , and it has been for years.

Anyone else noticed online that your A.I team mates are a lot more intelligent ?Particular for defending against the wing whores.
The game just feels solid now online and very enjoyable.You get more midfield battles and tussles and the games are a lot more football like rather than pre patch, where most games were just running about because the midfield seemed so anonymous when star players were cutting inhto your team with the arcade like runs.

It's so funny all the kids online are still trying just to run the whole game with Messi still after the patch and now just failing miserably nearly all the time.



Konami :bravo:
 

adamtomson

Registered User
Won second game 3-2, Newcastle it was. They won all the headers going but I expect that on 'Cheat Mode' aka Top Player, just playing enough games so that I can unluck superstar...

Anyway,

Newcastle had 53% possession this time, so I'm definitely noticing that the CPU are holding onto the ball much better than before. I don't think much has changed in terms of tackling, Murphy ran riot first game against me, and Ameobi was virtually unchallengable in this one.

In two games I reckon Carragher has won, oh I don't know, 0% of his headers he's gone for. But early days....

are you using chimps gameplay patch as he beefed up the stats abit which makes the defenders win more headers
 

g221911g

Registered User
I have to disagree Mak.

SCRIPTING TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL.

EVERY SINGLE FEATURE IN THIS GAMEPLAY IS BROKEN!!!!

Nothing changed except the fact that konami has made it easier to ping pong pass by moving your defenders out of the way and not allowing you to change cursor.

Scripted goals are a comin'!!!!

Great AI????

Just gave up a goal where guy takes the kick off, kicks it to MY RB who I can't get in control of. I have to watch him stutter step around the ball until their LM goes to get it. At this time, konami gives me control of the player so I attempt to put pressure, only to watch him LUNGE and toepoke (90 degrees no less) a screamer of a cross along the ground to my LB who decides to RUN AWAY FROM THE BALL WHILE THE CURSOR IS ON HIS HEAD! The ball ends up rolling to his RM that came from 35 yards away to one time the shot (he had pressed it right after pressing the cross) right at my keeper and into the goal.

Over and over again I watch as my opponent passes without a thought to direction and konami makes it all work out for them by not allowing me to defend or change cursor for seconds at a time. Even when I am standing right there, some silly animation that allows me to miss the ball happens.

Manual pass...I play the ball just in front of my player, the game decides it was for the player on the other side of the field and I can't change cursor until opposition wins the ball. Meanwhile the guy on my team standing next to the ball has no idea it's there.....Scripted beyond reason

The system is broken. There are just too many scripted sequences in this game for me to take it seriously. It seems obvious konami is fine with being 2nd. I can't think of one thing that works well in this game other than the online connectivity being improved and the patch slowing down the game speed. But this slowdown only glorifies the scripting. Gameplay and freedom pale in comparison to even FIFA (which should show you how far this series has fallen).

The fatal flaw is that the programmers have little knowledge of football. This is why they continue to code a game that has no freedom and just automatically does the things they have seen on tv, with little regard to context.

Now just press the special controls button and if you run right into the defender, the ref will call a foul...Only because you pressed 'special controls', not because it was a foul.

That's why hitting a chipped through ball activates the opposition defense running forward to clear the space AFTER the ball has been kicked to them.

That's why ping pong passing is effective without regard to direction faced, pressure faced, pace of the ball, or players body position. Because no matter what, konami will decide if the pass should be completed, not the player and ANYTHING he/she may do.

I haven't played FIFA 12 and I traditionally don't like it. And I don't really expect to now. But these idiots (konami) have forced me to go and try it out. Almost positive that it can't be any farther from football than this (Also almost positive that I'm going to have to learn programming myself and make my own game :no:)

I am going to assume (oh assumptions!) that a game of FIFA between two knowledgeable players is MUCH BETTER and more realistic than the same in PES. This is because konami dictates 95% of the game.

Some may say FIFA is boring. For me, PES' scripted, forced, predictable excitement equals no excitement at all....

Oh and how could I forget; so far I've won three times, drawn once (thanks to the goal described above), and lost one. (for the inevitable intelligent responses)

How is it that while I defend a corner kick, the ball comes directly to me, and konami switches my player to someone who has no chance??? (My cursor is on semi-assisted)???? They literally switch your player to the player that has no chance to win the ball.

A PISS POOR FRANCHISE WITH NO ANSWERS, END OF...and I won't be sad when it's dead....even if I don't ever play one game of FIFA.
 
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DIECI

Registered User
It's so funny all the kids online are still trying just to run the whole game with Messi still after the patch and now just failing miserably nearly all the time.

EXCELLENT!!! This is what I was hoping for!!!!!!!!! :w00t
 

lyc10

Registered User
wow..seems like alot of people don't like the patch. I downloaded it this morning and played 5 games in MLO(pretty much all I play) and basically I noticed 2 major changes.
1) ref is not as whistle happy as before which is a good thing because it was retarded before patch, I usually end up with like 6 fouls a game and i don't even slide at all, however they're missing some obvious fouls
2) shooting seems alot more accurate, I'm not sure if it was just me being lucky with shots today or w/e, but the shots do seem to go where I aimed, and because of that I've won all my games with pretty big margins. Pretty happy with it, but have to test it out again to see if its just my lucky day
 

techboy11

Registered User
What speed are people on, people are saying that the game is now much slower, I find it still pretty fast on gamespeed 0, PS3?!?
 

markcross

Banned
seems to me the patch has just made barca even more invincible, the last 10 online games my opponents have picked barca everytime, an tbh i was gettin owned every game, just couldnt keep up with any barca player!!! so i tried goin them myself in the last 2 games and fuk me its like the whole team is on steriods!! i literally went from having around 10 shots a game to 20+ shots a game, just held down the sprint button and drifted past each defender, especially with messi, i even rounded a few defenders in the box!!! now i have been enjoyin this game b4 this patch but now if someone piks barca its all over unless i go them aswell... gettin a bit borin tbh
 

RCD-Espanyol

Registered User
Excellent, speed merchants' agility is toned down , and now you cannot go around the keeper as easily. a couple of times the opposition tried that online and the keeper tracked the player and saved both times. Messi and Ronaldo are considerably slower in terms of agility/high speed turning (but still quick enough to make problems)
 
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