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Patch v1.03 has improved the GAMEPLAY!!!

mrgametight

Registered User
yea i have noticed no change in gameplay i just played three games did not get one fould called for me and i was getting hacked left and right
 

shaun7

Registered User
^The speed of the gae and the smoothness are pretty visible. I too didn't notice the refs. Though they are slightly better. But that's not enough.
 

RAMAXWY

Registered User
hey shaun7 spare your breath, if they don't notice the difference who cares.
they aren't paying that much attention to detail.
i for one didn't like the game at all and was even looking for an updated PES 2009 option file but now i am enjoying the game very much after the patch so it has changed and for the better.
the refs make calls so play good football and you will get them, you have a little more time on the ball in midfield because you couldn't even have two touches an you were being closed down and that's not realistic.
the only place on the pitch were you get closed down that fast is in the opponents box.
the speed of the ball is much better and the animations are smoother ( even my wife noticed that and she really doesn't pay that much attention still........).
the AI seems intelligent now in attack.
so we all here at PESGAMING,PESFANand EVO-WEB are imagining these things ? that doesn't seem likely.
 

MatTheCat

Registered User
THERE IS NO BLOODY DIFFERENCE AT ALL!

The button delay is just the same.

The refs are just as bad

The through balls are still nonsensical

etc
etc
etc

However, I should state that I am playing the PC version. Perhaps the console game updates are different.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
THERE IS NO BLOODY DIFFERENCE AT ALL!

The button delay is just the same.

The refs are just as bad

The through balls are still nonsensical

etc
etc
etc

However, I should state that I am playing the PC version. Perhaps the console game updates are different.

I guess some people blame the joystick when they arent winning the game, it's tragic but true. Just as if you don't get a raise every year, then your boss is an asshole, maybe you are just not doing a good enough job.


As for the 1.03 patch, it's a great improvement, but I don't see why it should take them three fucking patches to make a game playable without heavy editing. Incompetence is the first word that springs to my mind here...

PS. I play on PC aswell.
 

shaun7

Registered User
THERE IS NO BLOODY DIFFERENCE AT ALL!

The button delay is just the same.

The refs are just as bad

The through balls are still nonsensical

etc
etc
etc

However, I should state that I am playing the PC version. Perhaps the console game updates are different.

I'm sorry, but who in hell mentioned that in the latest update the through balls and button delay are better?
That's not the argument here. At least, not with what I'm saying.
The smoothness and the speed of the game are improved. Through balls and button delay are still not so good especially button delay.
And I doubt that they released different updates for ps3 and PC. But who know. I didn't try the PC version with the update yet (because I played it at a friend's but he didn't have the update yet).
 

MatTheCat

Registered User
PS. I play on PC aswell.

Well, you are easily suceptible to the power of suggestion then.

I 'upgraded' to 1.03, based upon all the squakings of the brats on the forums of how the gameplay has been improved. Naturally, I never expected there to be any difference and there wasn't. However, I never told my brother that I had downloaded the updates and he aint noticed anything either.

When I finally did mention to him that I updated the install and that all the wee fannies on the forums were bleating on about how the gameplay has been improved etc he inititally denied noticing any difference, but then when we played another few games he started claiming that the button timings were different etc.

In otherwords, placebo effect. If I had not told him there was any difference, then he would never have batted an eyelid.

I'm sorry, but who in hell mentioned that in the latest update the through balls and button delay are better?
That's not the argument here. At least, not with what I'm saying.
The smoothness and the speed of the game are improved. Through balls and button delay are still not so good especially button delay.
And I doubt that they released different updates for ps3 and PC. But who know. I didn't try the PC version with the update yet (because I played it at a friend's but he didn't have the update yet).

These are all things that are being mentioned across many posts on several forums, many of them here in this very thread I am sure. Have a quick scan through this thread and I am sure you will read plenty nonsense abotu the referees now giving freekicks and the responsiveness being superslick etc etc.
 

BloodyYank

Registered User
Well, you are easily suceptible to the power of suggestion then.

These are all things that are being mentioned across many posts on several forums, many of them here in this very thread I am sure. Have a quick scan through this thread and I am sure you will read plenty nonsense abotu the referees now giving freekicks and the responsiveness being superslick etc etc.

Well, I haven't been on the forums since before the patch was released, and I've definitely noticed a difference (PS3). In fact, after playing a dozen or so post-patch games, I came on here just to see if anyone else was noticing it as well.

I'm not sure about the refs improving, maybe they have a bit, but the gameplay has certainly improved, if not by a drastic degree.
 

iamcanadianeh

Registered User
I noticed just about everything that had been said is changed before I came on any forums and read anything, so it isn't a matter of me having been looking to find anything and experienced a placebo effect. Everything I noticed was blatantly obvious, and it has all now just been backed up by numerous industry insiders and the majority of people on the forums.

Matt - You're one of the few who is missing out, or too blind to see. Hate to break it to you, but based on the above, I now know how to judge your comments in future - with a massive grain of salt.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Well, you are easily suceptible to the power of suggestion then.

I guess you are the kind of guy that doesent notice any difference when your wife/GF has gone from platina blonde to short black hair either.

Seriously, if you don't notice the way AI teams don't ping-pong pass in the middle as much, or that the keeper doesent ALWAYS knock the ball in the direction of an opposing striker then you, sir, are blind.
 

nikoman

Registered User
I install this patch in pc version anda I didnt notice the changes you said until now, but I will play more matches to confirm it
But for me the best of this patch is that finally you can save your formation, and when you load it you dont need to do again the line up! This is great if you play with friends!
 

jedi5diah

Registered User
read the official statement.

12/2009 Downloadable Updates

Our exciting new update due on 12/2009 features the following additions!
(To implement this new update, you would need to have installed the previous Patch.)

• Some of the latest footballs
• Some of the latest football boots
11/2009 Downloadable Updates

Our exciting new update due on 11/2009 features the following features!
(To implement this new update, you would need to have installed the previous Patch.)

* The New Japan National Team kit (HOME) which debuted on 09/11/2009.
* Updated Squad data (Please note that they may not be 100% accurate) .
* Additional Teams in the UEFA Champions League Mode.
- OLYMPIQUE LYONNAIS
- AC FIORENTINA
- OLYMPIACOS
- C. ATLÉTICO MADRID
* Changes to the appearances of certain players.
Download Content Fix

A Fix designed to rectify the problems encountered with the Download Content released on 2009/11/09 will be available from 18:00 on 10/11/2009 (JST) for PLAYSTATION®3 and 2009/11/13 19:00(JST) on Xbox 360 respectively.
Customers who have downloaded the original update will also need to download and apply this fix which:

・PLAYSTATION®3: Fixes the Strip worn by the Japan Reserves

・Xbox 360: Fixes the Strip worn by both Japan and Japan Reserves

* Currently there is no Download Content for Xbox 360.

Customers who have already downloaded Download Content, please click here:
* IMPORTANT: On ONLINE, users with different Download Content Versions cannot play against each other.
* Release times may be subject to change.
CAUTION: Implementing Download Content

All data will be compatible once the update has been implemented. However, certain types of edit data will revert back to default. See below for details:

Player Data: Remains in edited state.
Team Data: Remains in edited state.
Player Register: Reverts to Default
Formation Data: Reverts to Default

Please make sure you not to delete the Download content from the Hardware menu as this would invalidate any save files created after it's implementation.

Users can play each other ONLINE only if their versions of the game match. The current version is 1.02 and this can be checked by choosing "Version" from the "ONLINE Menu".
 

ThaReaper01

Registered User
You know, I think they are on to something. I just put a new OF on my PS3, and the game does feel loads smoother!. Haven't tested the refs yet, but I think you guys are right.
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
(v) Referees: They are certainly stricter. More fouls are being called. More penalties are given. They can still go wrong either ways but they can be error-prone but not scandalous as they were before.

Even if everything else would be true, this is a load of bollocks!

0 penalties awarded 0!
 

toontoon

Registered User
Yes! Ive just been awarded 2 penalties in the same half. Never before has this happened. Im not sure if its down to the dlc but it now has me thinking it may well be.
 

jonny5985

Registered User
I have to say i've noticed the difference.

I'm playing on PS3 and i've also played it on the PC.

Goalkeepers: The most obvious thing for me is the goalkeepers. I'm seeing different animations (not saying Konami have added them in in the patch). After around 15-20 games (15 min, top player) i can safely say i have yet to see a Keeper make a weak parry from a weak shot, that's ended up in the goal. This sort of thing was rife pre-patch. The keepers are much harder to beat and are pulling off some fantastic looking one handed saves. Handling has dramatically improved.

Gamespeed: It's harder for me to notice because i've been playing on PC version since release date and i'd tweaked the stats to make play slower. The fact that the PS3 game post-patch seems to be at similar speed suggests they have slowed it a little. I've found that the game speed and responsiveness varies from ground to ground...which i've always believed to be the case in PES.

CPU AI: Huge change. Teams attacking in numbers. Shooting from 30+ yards out. Didn't happen pre-patch. Not sure what you're smoking if you haven't noticed this :w00t

Responsiveness: Players are more responsive. Player turning has improved for a lot of players. It's much sharper and fluid. Less of a delay when shooting...which was a problem pre-patch. Game feels much more fluid.

To Summarise, the game feels loads better. Almost at 'back in the day' level. it's so playable. I've not had this much fun with a PES game since PES 5 on the PS2. I'm loving it.

One thing to note: The game does feel different depending on the stadium. Might just be placebo, but feels much more fluid, but slower at Stade Louis and the Olympic Stadium, then it does at the Estadio De Palenque. No idea why, but i think there is a big difference.

All in all thumbs up from me. Definitely better.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Even if everything else would be true, this is a load of bollocks!

0 penalties awarded 0!

I have not gotten a single penalty since I installed the patch, but the gameplay is improved.

PS. A big patch using kitserver also make your players very unresponsive and sluggish. The smaller patches does not harm the gameplay, and patches not using kitserver are probably the safest way to go.

I'm using sammy_k's patch and a blank kitserver now (gamespeed and LOD fix), and the sluggishness is hardly noticeable compared to using SM patch, pesedit patch or any of the other kitserverheavy patches I've tried.

When you test a game after an official patch, do it mod-free or else you are in deep water when you judge it.
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
Have you ever heard of Placebo effect?


I'm using only the official patches and I have seen NO difference whatsoever in the game.
 
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