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PES 2010 edit mode

Jasperinho

Virtual Football Hero
@GoonerJosh, that was one hell of an impressive post. Welcome on board. I hope that Konami is reading your essay :)
 

GoonerJosh80

Registered User
@GoonerJosh, that was one hell of an impressive post. Welcome on board. I hope that Konami is reading your essay :)

It's the least I can do as I love PES. There is no reason why we can't have an edit mode as grand as this. Like I said it then means we can create a games as we see fit plus if you added the community online aspect it's ius then an easily accesible why for people to share their creations online. :D
 
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shankly is god

Registered User
jesus josh dont think ive seen a post like that before lol

you have just stroke up a chord with me now....Trophy's being editable would be awesome...

as I am now heading into the main stream graphic designer industry ive always loved creating anything and everything...and with the new possibility of editing via PS or FW and uploading .png's i have spent hours making kits....i plead with konami to expand on this i plead
 

GoonerJosh80

Registered User
jesus josh dont think ive seen a post like that before lol

you have just stroke up a chord with me now....Trophy's being editable would be awesome...

as I am now heading into the main stream graphic designer industry ive always loved creating anything and everything...and with the new possibility of editing via PS or FW and uploading .png's i have spent hours making kits....i plead with konami to expand on this i plead

Ultimately what we want for the consoles is an edit mode on par with the PC sop the ability to edit the game with accuracy. Look at the Arsenal kit on PES 2009 it was 99% accurate whereas all the kits on the PC are presitne. By getting templates that gives us this option of doing that.

It seems like the most logical way sign up kit/boot/glove/ball manufactuers to give you correct templates for these products of license them.

Imagine an equivilent of 2K Share where all of a sudden a player not in the game becomes the next big thing and I can then go online and download a creation from a whole host of users. This would also stop people trying to sell them online as it's that kind of thing that would lead to the EPL clamping down on how much is in the edit mode.

Like I said I love PES and want a game that is as visually accurate as ;)possible
 

Rob21C_UK

Registered User
I think the main problem is, Konami has always created games for the Arcade and Consoles and as such is stuck in the old ways of doing things. They still make the game with the restrictions of the old consoles especially in the area of storage of settings etc. They still seem to be stuck with thinking that all the storage space should fit on a memory stick with about 256Mb of memory, instead of using the Hard Drive space that the PC/PS3/X-360 have.

Until they get out of that mindset i'm sure PES will still have these restrictions unfortunately.
 

goldman132

Registered User
Tattoos should definitely be in

As good as Torres looks he doesn't have his trademark tattoos.

Does Beckham have his tattoo in 09? I can't remember


Also certain goalies wear tracksuit bottoms like Helton of Porto so they should be in too
 

Die Hard Pes Fan

Registered User
i never expected this thread to pick up, to be honest i thought i was the only person that cares about changing players boots and so on . i didnt know they had already meantioned that you can have untucked shirts, has it been confirmed, in conclusion i just want more boots and more kit detail in edit mode :D

Your not alone, I do the same, every premier league player has edited boots, and rangers in fact, nearly every player in my game has edited boots.

I wouldnt mind the same boots eg. nike, adidas and puma, but the latest one if you get what im saying eg. for nike the latest vapors, but more selection in colours/ create your own colours.
 

Die Hard Pes Fan

Registered User
For years PES editing mode has always been one of the best for a sports game but over the years there have been some obvious blips such as PES 4 which had no striped kits in the template but silly kits with Hearts on them.

The reason why people love the edit mode is becuase

1. It lets you keep player stats up to date of in some cases correct them

2. it lets you keep kits and playing accessories up to date

3. Player creations can be pretty accurate

the list goes on but one of the things that was noticed in last years version and many other releases is that you have not been able to get kits spot on such as the Arsenal strip in 2009 which is 90% accurate.

KITS

Here are a list of the main kit manufactuers in Europe, Asia and the Americas

Adidas (Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Japan, Nigeria, France, Germany, Mexico, Russia & River Plate)

Canterbury (Portsmouth)

Champion (Wigan & Wales)

Diadora (Napoli, Scotland)

Errea (Atalanta)

Kappa (Roma, Torino, Metz & Borrussia Dortmund)

Le Coq Sportif (Everton & Wolves)

Lotto (Borussia Monchengladbach, Colombia)

Nike (Arsenal, Aston Villa, Fulham, Celtic & Boca Juniors)

Puma (Cameroon, Italy & Feyenoord)

Reebook (Bolton)

Umbro (Lyon, West Ham, Sunderland & Man City)

Now this is an exhaustive list and I have not even mentioned all of the teams who's kits are provided by these manufactuers. I dont see why Konami can't approach these manufactuers and ask for their templates for a fixed period that way the kits will be 100% authentic both player and GKs kits. There must be the capacity to add these templates onto Blu Ray or 360/PC DVD. The big four Nike, Adidas, Umbro & Puma will have the most templates, mid companies like Kappa, Le coq Sportif & Lotto will have a few and the likes of Champion, Canterbury & Errea are gonna have maybe one or two. it would be nice if they looked as good as the licencsed kits as well.

The short length option form the previous PES games should be brought back as classic players did not have shorts as long as they do now example below. Also the shirt tightness option as in PES 3 as some of these kits and shorts are tighter fitting than others.



Maradona in 86



Torres now.



Kit Options

One of the best options introduced was the untucked or tucked shirts and the socks low sock high as there are many players that wear their kit in specific ways and in some ways it emphisies the players personality on the pitch.















Obviously in the Totti, Hleb and Henry photos you notice the difference in the way socks are worn. I have noticed there are more players due to shirts being tighter are wearing their sleeves in what is best described as a 3/4 roll.



Also the slight variations in the way tape is worn as on PES you have the standard one ring round the ankle but there are variations as shown below



Ronaldo normally wears his with some kind of ankle sock/guard



Gerrard wears his the traditional way which is featured in PES.



Torres also wears it similar to Ronaldo



Lastly le sulk wears his higher up his socks.

Accessories

Genrally PES gives a good variation of accessories for players the only things I'd want included are the ability like in 2K9 to wear club writstbands like Joe Cole does for Chelsea.

Equitment

PES has alsways had a good selection of boots but one of the major problems has been that you have 3 or 4 pairs of Predators taking up fours slots when common sense says you have all the Predator colours on one slot freeing up another 3 slots. In terms of boots the following boot manufactuers models

Adidas (Predator, World Cup, F50 & AdiPURE)

Nike (Mercurial Vapor, T90 Laser, Tiempo & Air Legend)

Puma (V.1.08-5.08, Konstruct & King)

Umbro (SX Flare & SX Valor)

Mizuno (Morelia Pro Japan)

Lotto (Zhero Gravity)

Diadorra (Brasil Italy & Pro Line Axler)

Asics (Testimonial, Lethel Testimonial)

Reebok (Instante Pro)

Again these are a few of the boots available but Konamai could have all the styles of the big boys Adidas, Nike & Puma could be given the 11 slots with the different colour schemes all on the same slot. These are the most worn then for some of the other brands you could either assign them one slot for there most popular boot or make their boots & logos creatable in the edit mode.

Again I think for classic players if you had this would give that extra authenticity.

Adidas (World Cup)
Puma (King)
Nike(Earl to Mid 90s Tiempo)

Goakeeper Gloves

There is absolutely no reason why GK gloves are not licensed in the game or that they are not editbale there is nothing more annoying having a GK like Buffon wearing black gloves when he has been wearing all white for the past season.

Adidas
Nike
Puma
Selsport
Umbro
Reusch
Sells

These are the main maunfactuers but Konami could either get licences for the big boys as most keepers wear Nike, Adidas, Puma than Umbro/Sells/Selsport. If Konami had a goalkeeper glove editing the following(strap colour, palm design, top design, top colour and logo) These could be inlcuded to then most of theses manufactuers gloves could be editied into the game.

Less of the gardening/mickey mouse gloves



and more



Konami has sinced confirmed this has been sorted and WENB claimed that gloves are licensed.

Player Faces

My only issue I have is not being able to create spot on likenesses is there noe way you can include past players whether as licensed faces or just within the mutlitude of noses, mouths, eyes & eyebrows. Surely that would not be a breach as they are in the game but then concievably any person in the world could be in there if someone has the patience to make them. It seems a real shame to myself and that preset players look awesome but made up one or classic have a wierd look about them.

Player Hair

Can you please do a bit my research into afro type hair because for certain players like Essien the hair is awful you need more black hairstyles including a smaller afro for players like Glen Johnson pre braids.






It would be nice if you had and accurate Valderama hairstyle as well as 20-30 historic hairstyles such(I know you have a few) as Maradona's barnet from 1986, Paul Brietner's German afro, Waddles mullet.










And a decent Baggio hairstyle would be nice





I had to include that one those are the best perms ever!! :D



I just thought I'd put all my thoughts into a monster post including my thoughts on other areas of editing

There is no reason why the following could not be editiable

Balls as it would be nice to be able to use NIKE balls when playing the English league but the last time I remember the NIKE ball was only available for the La Liga when it was Licensed. The following balls are used for the following Leagues

Official England League Ball



Official La Liga Ball



Official Serie A Ball



Official Europa League Football



Official Champions League Ball



As you can see these are mainly Nike and Adidas balls but you can also add Mitre who do the Championship & England home internationals.

Why not have more licensed balls i.e just the models and not the fac that they are attributed to a icensed league and also the ability to be able to edits balls to create ones that are not in the game.

You could have your base ball I'd say 4 panel styles like below

Long Panel



Classic Panel



Modern Panel



You then should have the ability to edit the base ball buy colouring panels like below



Or Adding patterns and colours like the two below





These could then be available during the match selection and league selection mode.

As I said in the above post the League Logos should be editable and this should purely be done the same way badges are done. If possible if it could be incorporated into the game so that when playing the EPL all the shirts will display the EPL logo on their shirts like so



This should be the same for La Liga, BundisLiga, Seria A and any other league we may wish tyo create.

I would also like to see editable trophies if possibe as it would just mean that we are able to edit the

International Cup trophy
The various league trophies
European Champions Trophy
Americas Trophy
Asia Trophy
Africa Trophy

For instance to create the EPL trophy it would be a case of chosing a base and then handles

Base wise you could have

Trophy(EPL, La Liga, European Championship, Uefa Cup, Champions League, Copa America, )
Vase (The only one I can think of is the F.A vase)
Plate(Budisliga, Ligue 1 )
Sheild(Cahrity Sheild)
Statuette(World Cup, African Nations Cup)

You could then have the choice of adding arms to the trophy which could be moved into place and then the colour of the trophy and maybe and option to add the winning teams colours.

To sum up my entire post why not make the edit mode as open as possible to give each individual player the possibility to edit the various elements of the game to their liking.

I also think that a possible community sharing mode like the one in NBA2K9 that allows other users to log into a database to download created content would be a great way for PES fans to have all their creation stored on one central database.

I would be interested to know if the PS3 edit mode could ever be on Par with PC Editing is there anyway to open it up so we can be as accurate as our PC counterparts?

Great Post and Ideas, these would all be brilliant as I am one of the people when they first get the game go straight to edit mode and check out the boots kit designs etc.
 

Die Hard Pes Fan

Registered User
Ultimately what we want for the consoles is an edit mode on par with the PC sop the ability to edit the game with accuracy. Look at the Arsenal kit on PES 2009 it was 99% accurate whereas all the kits on the PC are presitne. By getting templates that gives us this option of doing that.

It seems like the most logical way sign up kit/boot/glove/ball manufactuers to give you correct templates for these products of license them.

Imagine an equivilent of 2K Share where all of a sudden a player not in the game becomes the next big thing and I can then go online and download a creation from a whole host of users. This would also stop people trying to sell them online as it's that kind of thing that would lead to the EPL clamping down on how much is in the edit mode.

Like I said I love PES and want a game that is as visually accurate as ;)possible

E-mail your ideas to konami, thats what I did recently asking for stuff such as Become A Coach, Indoor Traing 5 A Side Pitch, Kick About (same as Fifas Free Roam as I enjoyed that, More Movement from Set-Pieces, Controllable cut scenes/ Statements after matches, now the pier de resistance, in rival matches there is a higher tempo, the matches are more physical, better atmosphere, pushing/ shuving square ups etc.

Let me know what you all think about my ideas. I dont mind criticism.
 

shankly is god

Registered User
clearly proves my point you say your from northen ireland...im from andy's town belfast....all im saying is dont hold your breathe when hoping for a whole englash team......glentoran proves everything....and im shocked you have chosen the ultra ritch no reputation man city over man utd lol
 

Die Hard Pes Fan

Registered User
clearly proves my point you say your from northen ireland...im from andy's town belfast....all im saying is dont hold your breathe when hoping for a whole englash team......glentoran proves everything....and im shocked you have chosen the ultra ritch no reputation man city over man utd lol

Oh right sorry I thought you were slabbering, sorry mate, my uncle got me into supporting man city
 
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