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PES 2013 Demo 1: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

Sminky

Registered User
Didn't you do the same thing with PES12 when it came out?

A CMF placed behind the 4 man line as a "Sweeper".

You've got a good memory. I did indeed, typically I play my best passer behind the my central defenders for long raking passes.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Been finding Top Player a bit tricky. Switched back to SuperStar and just won 2-1 after going a goal behind. Superstar really is the more enjoyable of the game modes, I play that little bit quicker and incisive because the AI forces me to.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^So Sminky, Superstar plays better than the cheat Top Player? What I mean is does it have less cheats and more "because the AI was good" moments? Because in Top Player there are some instances where the AI does stat boosting and is very evident.
 

El Niche

Registered User
I gave Superstar a try after both Professional and Top Player would always be competitive for me. Was pleasantly surprised that it played well. I lost 2 games (no cheating in either) and had 1 draw. However I dropped it down to top player and was punching the walls due to the AI cheating. was up 2-0 and then in min '87 and '90 they tied it. Now I know I can't play top player. For me its either superstar (I need to try to get ahead in score more to see if the cheating is as bad as top player or just play professional)

Please Konami, fix the damn cheating script. The games can be quite enjoyable without it. This is one of the reasons I had to switch from PES12 to Fifa12. Hoping to see improvement in Demo #2
 

ahmed a.

Registered User
I'm really impressed by the A.I. at this demo.
(I'm using Jenjey's 35 teams patch with 15 min. match and AI at the highest level and cheating disabled)
 

abu97

Registered User
^So Sminky, Superstar plays better than the cheat Top Player? What I mean is does it have less cheats and more "because the AI was good" moments? Because in Top Player there are some instances where the AI does stat boosting and is very evident.
Too much rubberbanding in Superstar tbh. Top Player is preferably better for me but still has Scripting issues.
 

Gibelini

Registered User
I´m now playing without passing assists but it really feels like the power bar for passing is random. Sometimes I charge half or the bar for a normal pass with a good passing player like Pirlo but he will just give the ball a little touch.. happens a lot to me. And no I wasn't under pressure.
 

Sminky

Registered User
I´m now playing without passing assists but it really feels like the power bar for passing is random. Sometimes I charge half or the bar for a normal pass with a good passing player like Pirlo but he will just give the ball a little touch.. happens a lot to me. And no I wasn't under pressure.

It will be, its dependant on the passing ability of the player.
 

abu97

Registered User
It will be, its dependant on the passing ability of the player.
Then why should the power of the pass change. A players passing and touch ability will alter the accuracy in the pass because anyone can power a pass first time if they are professional pass. What should vary is the accuracy for poorer players, not speed
 

Sminky

Registered User
Then why should the power of the pass change. A players passing and touch ability will alter the accuracy in the pass because anyone can power a pass first time if they are professional pass. What should vary is the accuracy for poorer players, not speed

Think about it. Not every professional footballer passes at the same speed. The better passer you are the more accurate you can pass at speed. Also passing speed has always been a feature on PES, Gerrard used to 97 for passing Speed I think on one version.

All in all, this is a pretty pointless debate.
 

abu97

Registered User
Think about it. Not every professional footballer passes at the same speed. The better passer you are the more accurate you can pass at speed. Also passing speed has always been a feature on PES, Gerrard used to 97 for passing Speed I think on one version.

All in all, this is a pretty pointless debate.
I'm pretty sure he meant when a player recieves a pass and presses pass full power resullting in the ball trickling a few inches from him. Thats more of a bug, not something Konami put in to make the gameplay more advanced
 

Gibelini

Registered User
I'm pretty sure he meant when a player recieves a pass and presses pass full power resullting in the ball trickling a few inches from him. Thats more of a bug, not something Konami put in to make the gameplay more advanced

Thats what I meant, it annoys the hell outta me.
 

Gibelini

Registered User
I feel like the referees are giving yellow cards real quick..at least give me a warning or something. Got like 2 warnings for a foul, rest all yellow carded. Think the refs are a bit strict lol
 

Sabatasso

Banned
[DEMO 1] I've played a few single player matches and two player vs player matches, and so far I have to say that I'm impressed. I noticed a bug where the keeper ran with the ball in his hands outside the area and "spawned" back, but nothing major. I like the pace of the game, playing at 0, and I also like the extra "oomph" the passing and shooting has gotten this year. I also like the way every match seems very different from the previous, unlike most PES's and FIFA's in the past where every match were more or less the exact same regardless of teams involved.

I'm sure there are some flaws I've overlooked, but overall I have to say that I am impressed.

EDIT: I've been using default formations in every match, and for once they seem to work fairly well with the exception of Fluminese's. I had to change during the break to get some more players forward to create chances.

EDIT 2: Playing 15 minute matches, and no other mods.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
I've played a few more matches on this demo, haven't seen any Demo2 links for PC yet.

I would have to say that shot power should be toned a tad down, and shot accuracy could easily be toned down on long shots as well.

There is a passing bug, where you power up before you actually have the ball and once you try to pass it on first touch it just barely bounce off your feet. This happens consistently with Pirlo as well as the Average Joe, so I doubt it's intentionally. (The same bug was present on PES2012 btw)
 
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