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Potential Issues With Patch 1.0.2 ? : Konami night need to send out another patch.

Tech_Skill

Registered User
Potential Issues With Patch 1.0.2 ? : Konami might need to send out another patch.

Unless there is a way around these two issues, I think another patch may be needed.

1) The fix to remove CPU player names appearing above the heads of the player is lazy. From what I understand the fix is to go into the menu and switch off player display names, which now switches off the display names for both you and the CPU. Why didn't Konami just add a separate option in the menu so you could remove the CPU player names, I have already seen one complaint for someone who only wanted the CPU player name display removed, NOT THE DISPLAY FOR HIS PLAYERS.

2) (pasted from another thread) There seems to be an issue in master league which means, that in only a few seasons your team can run out of money, simply by just keeping your existing squad and not signing/selling any players, which is not right and we dont remember this being an issue in older versions of PES such as the ones on PS2.


The following discussion took place on www.pesgaming.com and it prompted responses from other players who are having the same issue. Here is an illustration of this issue, can someone from Konami provide a response on this potential issue which we feel could have been made even worse after patch 1.0.2 because the cost of players has risen, therefore If you sign a player and dont sell one to balance the costs, your financial situation could end up so dire, continuing is pointless.

Below is an illustration of the issue, please provide a response that contains an explaination of how this can be avoided and if this cannot be avoided, please patch it ASAP.


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THE FOLLOWING QUESTION WAS ASKED ON PESGAMING.COM

Start a season with Real Madrid.

The budget was 255 million.

After salary and operating costs I have 124 million.

Expected earnings are for the rest of the season are +74 million (Sponsorship and income)

So does this mean I start next season with at least 198 million??

Because even if don't buy ANYONE, after salary and operating costs, I will have to pay another 124 million right (wages should be roughly same as last season?) meaning I will start season with about 74 million?


So, i'm already about 60 million pounds down on last year and that's even before I have bought players which are FAR MORE expensive than they used to be, so if this is right how long can this be sustained for? surely you would have to keep selling to be in profit?




THEN ANOTHER USER COMMENTED ON THE ABOVE AND REPORTED THE SAME ISSUE.


If you have 124 million after the first operating cost and your expected earnings are +74 million that mean that you will end the first season with 198 million. But in the start of the second one you will have to pay operating costs again, so you will have 68 millions in the start of the second season.

If your expected earnings stay the same in the start of the third season you will have 10 millions. That mean that in the fourth season you won't have money.

All this without buying players. And assuming you operating costs stay the same which they won't because players salaries will increase very much.

*The fix for this, is most likely to increase the bonus and sponsorship money given to teams each season so they can cope with the increase in player costs, wages and sustain their team for many seasons without having to sell players to survive*
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
What about when you win tournements and other bonuses? Has that been factored in?

Judging by the following posts from others, i doubt that can save you.

Its the same problem with previous version of PES. I won everything in every season, eventually my players got lots of individual awards which make my players' market value rises. The salaries became madness. I didn't even have the chance to buy a new player. Every season, I have to sell at least one player in order not to get bankrupt.

Thought it was my problem. Of course it is stupid to clubs like real madrid and barcelone need to sell their stars.

Also it is even more stupid after a season where i won everything (CL, League, cup, super cup). With that i made a lot of money, even so i wasn't able to pay my salaries. Even with real madrid.

Anyone know if that is going to be changed with the new patch?

Yeap ML is a mess. I'm losing 60M on my 1st season, 80M on 2nd season, and it keep increasing. I didn't buy players at all. Finally I used maximum fund option and start over in ML..
 

DivineSaint

Registered User
you call this ones problem? I think you havent seen new patch yet, its a problem by itself I cant even know where to start, how about quit and no rat change bug.
shoots are ridiculous so does goalkeepers, and cursor change makes me mad... there are a lot i just dont want to be get annoyed anymore by 2011, i had enough for today
 

tsubasa1982

Registered User
you call this ones problem? I think you havent seen new patch yet, its a problem by itself I cant even know where to start, how about quit and no rat change bug.
shoots are ridiculous so does goalkeepers, and cursor change makes me mad... there are a lot i just dont want to be get annoyed anymore by 2011, i had enough for today


Sorry but what is your problem? Really a great compliment to Konami, thank you. You really have the worst bugs erase.I not understand what your problem is with the cursor changes, it is really very good, much better than before, a switch is really fast and exactly.Die goalkeepers are the same do not know what you mean worse than previously, no difference so still pretty good. The best of the difficulty level has been increased simply top, the defenders attack earlier also on the outside line, it is now a real fight on Top Player difficulty, man must for every ball fight, man to be focused must correct the man makes no mistakes.
The AI is just great thank Konami.The game is also now a little faster had always used to play 1 +, and now again down to 0 because it is right now on the speed.
There is really nothing more what really bugs me.
What holds me still the most annoying is the referee, he just does not know what advantage is in football so far it really heisst.Also lengths to better with the new patch, again thank you Konami, will have a lot of games playing and will then write again, If I discover a few errors, so Konami is then improved.;)
 

tsubasa1982

Registered User
A travel bug I have been found, that is why I can not with Boca Juniors and River Plate in the Copa Libertodes games
but only in a friendly game.
What is this? Why?
Because in Copa Libertodes is international in there, but not the other 2.
Help?
 

DivineSaint

Registered User
tsubasa, play some online matches and come back again, playing against cpu means nothing, you will see real difference, i was in top 250 and lost 30 rating beacuse of this reasons
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
ive posted there the argument for, here.

http://forums.pesfan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=354

Thanks man, I see some penis head over there is already trying to debunk this, I have had enough of this shit, its about time we got some proper Konami representation on this forum, its not on that you should have to sign up with WENB (shittest forum on earth) just so your feedback actually gets to konami.

Im gonna have a word, its not fair all you lot are wasting your time in the feedback forum and fuck all happens.
 

arsenald

Registered User
no probs dude.

i dont even play ML but just trying to help ya..
besides i posted a answer to our genital head lol
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
no probs dude.

i dont even play ML but just trying to help ya..
besides i posted a answer to our genital head lol

Do me a favour, edit that post and put this one in.

The answer to his question ''where are incomes from fans and from home matches''

Is here "Expected earnings are for the rest of the season are +74 million (Sponsorship and income)" (even with extra money from winning those home games, we dont think that is enough to stop your team going into debt)

Also, Other people are reporting the same concerns.

We just want some one from KONAMI to take a look at the issue and that the issue is currently being discussed in this thread too, we would like them to look in here.

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?p=1691023#post1691023
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
yo tech there is something here

http://forums.pesfan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=235

i could post a poll if you could write it for me?

this i where they take there suggestions to konami from

No Poll please, I dont want too much moron involvement. I just want in a place where Konami will look at it.

Can you post the original post from this thread (1st post) into their feedback thread please.

And say several people on pesgaming.com are seeing this issue and that konami can follow the issues on here to see the current discussion.

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread....23#post1691023
 

dan80

Registered User
Something i dont get when you want to buy a player sometimes there salaries cost more than the transfer fee so you could pay 3million for salaries and 1 million for the transfer.
 

S-D-P

Registered User
Not had any issues so far, how many seasons you through tech? got through one season myself last night.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Not had any issues so far, how many seasons you through tech? got through one season myself last night.

Bloody hell, what time did you go to bed? 4am?! It takes me ages to get through a season on 10min halves. I can only manage about 3 or 4 games before my concentrations starts to wane
 

S-D-P

Registered User
Bloody hell, what time did you go to bed? 4am?! It takes me ages to get through a season on 10min halves. I can only manage about 3 or 4 games before my concentrations starts to wane

I finished the second half of the season, onto the next season now. After three years of the utterly abysmal Career mode I am finding master league more addictive than ever, I dont touch online unless its to get a patch so alot of my hours are consumed offline ML and offline multiplayer.
 
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