dont kno what your problem is kid but deluded is one of them... i never said pes is perfect but it is much better than fifa you just wont wake up and realise it....
I got a good laugh out of that.
WAKE UP!!
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dont kno what your problem is kid but deluded is one of them... i never said pes is perfect but it is much better than fifa you just wont wake up and realise it....
More fucking crying from someone who obviously cant answer the question he was asked
Once again
this one goes out to your boyfriend too (Shankly is god) who is so far up seabass's arse, im not sure colonic irrigation could remove him.
Which game gives you more control......
The one with CPU automated passing and shooting and through ball, and tackling and penalties?
Or the game which offers you manual control over almost all aspects of gameplay?
Simple question for those who have a fully functioning nervous system.
How can it take more skill, to let the computer take Pk's for you, weight passes for you, take control of shots for you, through balls for you, tackle for you.....
As opposed to weighing your own passes, having full control over shot placement and penalties and having full manual control of gameplay which allows you to make your own mistakes rather than the computer making mistakes for you.
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You two are a joke, plastic pes fans who probably started playing at pes 4 or summin, if you cant understand the massive contradictions you are making you are beyond help. Because sane people dont agree with you, one of the writers of this forum doesnt agree with you, the reviewers dont agree with you, the sales dont agree with you, and if you look at how stupid your argument is, you dont even agree with you.
Congrats on this quote though on why EA seek feedback, stupidity like this should be celebrated
Absolutley shocking, they dont know football like konami, but they got a 360 degree game and konami have 8 directions.........do me a favor, log off yeah, your hopeless.
Now, are there any real PES fans out there that wanna talk, these noobs you are feeding me arent up to scratch...
Im happy to talk about Konami new system where players flood the box when a good crosser gets the ball, because thats one of the few ideas i like.
People keep saying about this 360 degree control, but who's to say it will work? .
I think PSM3 would care more than Konami.I do not see how Konami will listen to PESGAMING anymore since they are breaking copyright laws publishing PSM3's article on their site.
are you marketing for EA, because damn man it really sounds like it.
most of the problems you claim to have with the game are just not there for me so i just don't get it. the animations aren't great that's true, the automatic sliding has got to go, some keepers could be better but no one and i mean not even the AI runs through my defence as if it's not there so if you are just bad at the game than practice .
a lot needs to improve but as i said before with all it's faults it represents football in the purist form much more than FIFA care to dream about at the moment.
8 directional, well that may be true but the freedom you have when playing,passing and dribbling is much more than FIFA has at the moment much more.
scoring goals in any which way you like as long as you've got the skill and timing right and i have yet to see two goals that look exactly the same that's also what FIFA just doesn't have and that's the soul that it lacks because if football was that boring and predictable than it wouldn't be the sport it is today.
what makes this sport exciting is that you never know a goal can go in.
ball physics, well if you've ever played with a football you'd notice that it's just unbelievable and scary how close to the real thing PES is ,just stunning.
a lot of members here have a few great suggestions on how to improve the game because no one is ever satisfied and i have a few myself but as it stands today when we compare the two football games we have at the moment PES has the football soul in it's roots and FIFA wants to learn.
I think we should concentrate more about how the game feels.I mean we're not coaches to say AI should do that or he should do the other.You just build your own tactic and try to beat the AI(which will be very hard to beat from what I've heard about PES 2010).Sorry for repeating,but the main concern about this game is that players runs like they are not footballers,I mean they are like some Ice Hockey players with football equipment.And i guess noone can argue with me,because it's not too hard to understand this if you have seen or played a real life match.
I didin't buy PES 2009 not because of licenses,or unrealistic Master League,but because of unrealistic gameplay.
i admit fifa does have a hell of a lot more to offer than PES, but you can't deny that PES is more fun. Gameplay is the only flaw for me. FIFA has fully liscenced teams, a more organised manager mode, etc., but PES gives you more freedom.
It gives you more national teams to play with, it gives you the freedom to mess around with players, teams, stadium names, etc., You can't do this with FIFA (I mean the game doesn't even show you a single trophy when you win a championship for christ's sake).
I think what I'm trying to say is this: Even though FIFA is closest game resembling real life futbol, I always seem to gear towards PES because the game offers me so much more.
It's funny people mention the players move like ice hockey players. I don't see it. Can anyone post a youtube video showcasing it? Is it a once in a while thing or does it happen all the time? I play PES 2009 every night and don't notice this.
dont kno what your problem is kid but deluded is one of them... i never said pes is perfect but it is much better than fifa you just wont wake up and realise it.... eveyone who i have spoken to has agreed with me that fifa is an arcade game i could be here all night saying how i think its sht and people will agree...
*no skill at all required.
says who? Fifa offers you full manual control, pes don't
**Players dont look like real life counterparts.
graphics, who gives a shit...gameplay is what matters. Pes's faces looks better, but that is totally awesome for the first hour when you browse players in edit mode.
**CL games played at 12pm in sunlight .
This has been confirmed fixed for fifa 10
**can score 100% from the halkway line.
This has been fixed for fifa 10 as well, confirmed by EA
**crappy manager mode.
Manager mode has been totally revamped this year, and what I've read about it, it sounds better than any franchise/manager mode I've experienced in a game. Remains to been seen how much of it is true.
**world class players play for 2nd division teams(unrealistic transfers).
This has been totaaly revamped for fifa 10 and is realistic now.
**weather is shitty .
Fifa 10 will offer realistic weather, depending on the time of the year, confirmed by EA
**tackling is crap with no need to press anything.
Both fifa and pes is guilty of making star players like C Ronaldo way too good and impossible to tackle
**to get a certian goal you can pass it across the shitty goalies and get a certian goal.
You can score specific goals in pes as well, both games are guilty of this.
**no movement in the players with the AI knowing every single move you make.
If you want to bring up player movement, pes is way more shocking with AI players running around like headless chickens on occassions.
**unrealistic stats, sami hypia is as fast as ronaldo .
AI slow defenders catch up with fast strikers in PES too, both games are guilty of this, and both games need to fix this.
**no customization to make it better.
This year they have added customization in fifa, though not as much as pes. Though as mentioned above the licensed teams in pes have limited customization, so if pes had all the licenses that fifa had...see my point?
**be a pro is crap with only 4 seasons and your the best ever made in those 4 short years.
Matter of opinion though, I didn't enjoy BAP at all. And actually enjoyed be a pro, though this is down to preference. Fifa 10 have fixed the issue of improving too fast.
**online is shocking with everyone just chosing 5* rated teams...
That is not EA's fault, at least they have a working online mode.
I enjoy both games, but to make either one out as totally shit is pointless. Both have their pro's and both has their con's. Personally I enjoy Fifa 09 much more than PES 09, and the improvements Konami is going on about has nothing to do with the major problems in PES the last couple of years. The things I've heard and feedback from journalists about FIFA 10 is very promising and extremely positive. I know I'm going to buy FIFA 10, it's up to gameplay movies of PES 10 for me to decide whether I'll buy that as well.
Each year Konami makes promises and promises, the last 2 years has been a major dissapointment. Especially last year, they promised that everything has been reworked from scratch, just for me to find out PES 09 equals total shit! And this 50% thing is total nonsense, and shows Konami's lack of confidence.
Tech Skill...
I would really like to know what your point is? You come here and bash this game so bad ( and many points I agree with you ) but you just seriously make PES2009 out to be the WORST football game ever. Its a GOOD game just not up to the standards we expect, so chill out man.
Here's a video for FIFA 09:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdUzi3g_6zs&feature=fvw
And here for PES 2009:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnL2Vxym-Dw&feature=related
Try to be subjective and you'll observe that what I've said is true(no fanboy objectism!!!).
dont kno what your problem is kid but deluded is one of them... i never said pes is perfect but it is much better than fifa you just wont wake up and realise it.... eveyone who i have spoken to has agreed with me that fifa is an arcade game i could be here all night saying how i think its sht and people will agree...
says who? Fifa offers you full manual control, pes don't
graphics, who gives a shit...gameplay is what matters. Pes's faces looks better, but that is totally awesome for the first hour when you browse players in edit mode.
This has been confirmed fixed for fifa 10
This has been fixed for fifa 10 as well, confirmed by EA
Manager mode has been totally revamped this year, and what I've read about it, it sounds better than any franchise/manager mode I've experienced in a game. Remains to been seen how much of it is true.
This has been totaaly revamped for fifa 10 and is realistic now.
Fifa 10 will offer realistic weather, depending on the time of the year, confirmed by EA
Both fifa and pes is guilty of making star players like C Ronaldo way too good and impossible to tackle
You can score specific goals in pes as well, both games are guilty of this.
If you want to bring up player movement, pes is way more shocking with AI players running around like headless chickens on occassions.
AI slow defenders catch up with fast strikers in PES too, both games are guilty of this, and both games need to fix this.
This year they have added customization in fifa, though not as much as pes. Though as mentioned above the licensed teams in pes have limited customization, so if pes had all the licenses that fifa had...see my point?
Matter of opinion though, I didn't enjoy BAP at all. And actually enjoyed be a pro, though this is down to preference. Fifa 10 have fixed the issue of improving too fast.
That is not EA's fault, at least they have a working online mode.
I enjoy both games, but to make either one out as totally shit is pointless. Both have their pro's and both has their con's. Personally I enjoy Fifa 09 much more than PES 09, and the improvements Konami is going on about has nothing to do with the major problems in PES the last couple of years. The things I've heard and feedback from journalists about FIFA 10 is very promising and extremely positive. I know I'm going to buy FIFA 10, it's up to gameplay movies of PES 10 for me to decide whether I'll buy that as well.
Each year Konami makes promises and promises, the last 2 years has been a major dissapointment. Especially last year, they promised that everything has been reworked from scratch, just for me to find out PES 09 equals total shit! And this 50% thing is total nonsense, and shows Konami's lack of confidence.
your talking about fifa 10 im talking about fifa 9 how can i slate a game thats not out yet......
and besides i do get both games also im just giving my view that i prefers pes for me its overall realistic...all this talk about 8 way control just eludes me i find if you can run at defenders and actually get past them then its fine.. in fifa you cant.....
your talking about fifa 10 im talking about fifa 9 how can i slate a game thats not out yet......
and besides i do get both games also im just giving my view that i prefers pes for me its overall realistic...all this talk about 8 way control just eludes me i find if you can run at defenders and actually get past them then its fine.. in fifa you cant.....
some of you can't play FIFA becouse it is much more SIM than pes and you can't play SIM games,
you enjoy playing PES more becouse it is easie,r there is more space to move, it is arcade, this is why.
You still dodgin my question from yesterday eh, you said FIFA had no skill.
How can it take more skill, to let the computer take Pk's for you, weight passes for you, take control of shots for you, through balls for you, tackle for you.....
As opposed to weighing your own passes, having full control over shot placement and penalties and having full manual control of gameplay which allows you to make your own mistakes rather than the computer making mistakes for you.
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what don't you get man ? FIFA with all the things u summed up sounds fantastic but it isn't the bad response is still there and if they even can't fix that after they said they would for FIFA09 than the rest doesn't even matter because the gameplay suffers too much.
the player and team stats don't matter how can this not bother you if you really like the sport you should see and feel the difference in players and team abilities but that's nowhere to be found in FIFA.
they market their product perfectly and let you believe all that hype AND MAKE YOU THINK THINGS ARE THERE WHICH ARE NOT.
when KONAMI says they worked on something you usually feel it in the game and you can end up liking it or not but you will feel it in the game.
FIFA'S animations are fluid yeah i'll give you that but for some odd reason they are a pain too look at and i don't know if it's just me but all the players seem to have back problem and are leaning forward so even they have too work on it.
what bothers me is that you think the game is perfect but it's far from it .
but that does not effect the game at all you say oh its so skill full to let the cpu take a penalty for you...i have never seen that what so ever...and the weighted balls issue doesnt effect the game either as i only use circle button to loft balls and cross.....