Right, Time For Some Real Talk on This Fifa/PES Buisness

[Tech_Skill]

Right, so I got this game today, now the very first thing that was apparent was that when I strolled into my local store to buy this shit, there were only 3 copies left on Xbox, so, somebody, somewhere is buying this stuff, this is the 1st time ive got PES on official release day since PES08 btw.

Konami hates Xbox users, seriously, I remember back in the day when I had PES5 on PS2 and my mate used to have it on Xbox, I swear the xbox version had some toned down editing mode and plus, I had a world class option file, and he had Middlebrook, west midlands village and all that shit. Now, since its okay for me to laugh at others less fortunate than myself...... i had a good fucking laugh at his expense, well fuck me, now he has PS3, and I have xbox 360........the joke is on me.

Why in the fuck can I not upload chants? Its bad enough not being able to get the WENB option file, (which these days is just about the only fucking reason for typing that shit website in firefox), fair enough I said, Daymos is making one for the Xbox so fuck it, at least I have something, I downloaded bunch of chant packs, 1st thing to I tried to was upload some barca/real chants........FUCK ALL. Konami need to wise the fuck up, I thought Xbox was the most popular console out there right now, so why the fuck are 360 users treated like lepers, its a joke, you would think I have an Atari Jaguar or some shit console that 3 people on earth own.

The AI in this game sucks ass, seriously, Defensively its fucking nasty, this is down to the response times being so late and im talking late as hell for a video game. Press the pass button, and about a second later, the ball gets passed, press shoot, the cunt takes a first touch, its fucking not nice and needs sorting for PES 2012. The through balls are laser guided at times, when I do one, ive seen the CPU ai player stop himself intercepting it just to let the pass get to the attacker, there is also an issue with the tackling, as i can stroll through the odd player without him making a challenge and the cpu AI can do the same thing, there is a reason for this ill touch on maybe another time, it has a good effect when attacking and a shit effect when defending.

CPU AI cheats on top player, I won like 8/10 on top player, but I did switch off the damn game at one stage because the goals I was conceding were INSANE, like my defender taking a 1st touch infont of goal and the ball going in, the CPU will look to shot and then the rebound will fall perfectly for one of the CPU attackers, just like in PES08.

The one good thing I will say about this game is this....when you play with Real Madrid, they dont play the same as Barcelona, for me, I notice a clear difference, Also, C Ronaldo and Messi are both 98's in stats, but they are different players, Messi can go plast players without tricks, in this game, I dont think you can play the same way with ronaldo, because he takes much heavier touches, what ronaldo's strength is.....is his tricks, if you take a guy on and fuck with the trick stick, the Ronaldo can kill that defender. It's interesting, I'll keep an eye on it.

PS. Goalkeepers suck ass too, I scored a disgusting 30 yard free kick with Ronaldo but the keeper should have done more. Wish I could upload that shit, was a decent freekick man.

The jury is out on this one...

PS Higuian is dirty in this game, I scored like 9/10 in about 10 games with this guy.

 

[Sho]

It's a video game for god's sake what more do you want...

Tbh, as far as i see it, it can only get improvements on the installment.

So sit tight, play and wait for the next installment.

 

[Tech_Skill]

It's a video game for god's sake what more do you want....

When I press shoot, i'd like the attacker to shoot and not take a 1st touch, that would be nice.

Would be nice for the defender to tackle when i press the tackle button too.

Would be even nicer if the CPU/my defenders didnt stop when a though-ball is put in.

You thinks thats asking too much here?

Would be nice if the auto/semi switching actually worked also.

 

[Baddar]

Spoiler

I love Tech_Skill's rants.

 

[James_dean]

The goalkeepers need to be fixed as they seem to score own goals, saving a shot and then kicking the ball accidentally into their own net.
It´s obvious that this game was rushed out on the market to compete with Fifa and really needs a good patch to finish the product.

In the end I quite happy with the game.

 

[Tech_Skill]

The goalkeepers need to be fixed as they seem to score own goals, saving a shot and then kicking the ball accidentally into their own net.
It´s obvious that this game was rushed out on the market to compete with Fifa and really needs a good patch to finish the product.

In the end I quite happy with the game.

Im gonna try and stick with it and see what happens, I really hate conceding goals, especially goals which are hardly my own fault, but hey, I just want a decent game..... There are 3 three things in this world which really piss me off.

1) Shit football games

2) X factor/American Idol and all that shit

3) Other people living and breathing.

Other than that, i'm pretty relaxed.

 

[Amateur]

The defensive system in PES11 is broken, and in FIFA11 is also broken, in fact, all the football sims that I have played in my life-time have a broken defensive system...

The fact that you literally control the off-the-ball runs of all the players via the left analogue stick.... is impractical, incompetent, redundant, and is the reason for why the defensive system is ALWAYS broken.

In my opinion, I don't think it's a matter of response times; I mean, response times do matter, but PES5 and PES6 were responsive... yet the defensive system was broken.

This is all down to the fact that Konami uses the left analogue stick like a d-pad, but a d-pad with more directions... and that does not works very well, the d-pad and the left analogue stick are very different buttons and should revolve around different concepts.

When you use the left analogue stick and the left analogue stick revolves around an outdated d-pad concept; you get PES10, FIFA10, PES11, FIFA11.

It's a video game for god's sake what more do you want...

I am aware of the fact, and I'm also aware of the fact that I pay good money for PES and therefore have a right to voice disappointment; there's a difference between pointless moaning and pointless praising, and constructive criticism with an actual purpose.

I don't expect much from video games, but at least I expect Konami and EA Sports to make fucking proper use of the left analogue stick....

IT'S BORING, UNRESPONSIVE, ONE-DIMENSIONAL, when I want to dribble with the ball... And you know why this is? Because it's actually, literally, impossible to dribble with the ball... It just lacks a lot of excitement and substance when dribbling with the ball, it's PES5 with more directions... in year 2010.

Like FIFA10 and PES10, the overall product is fun to play, but the one-versus-one area is outdated and boring; and for a good reason, Konami and EA Sports are making inadequate use of the left analogue stick.

And both companies are covering up the fact with cheap details like the right analogue dribbling tricks... Honestly, how many of them tricks are used in real-life on a consistent basis?

After two or three weeks of playing the game, I will mention the areas that I think have improved the most, because I have no problems praising a good video game; however, when you see the same concept that was used in games like PES5 and PES6, there's just no way around that.

For all the positives that PES11 offers, the number one priority for PES12 should be:

* change the way the left analogue stick works... make better use of the left analogue stick.

* get rid of the d-pad roots which are responsible for the unresponsive or sluggish feel of the game, get rid of the d-pad roots which are still apparent in PES11 and FIFA11.

* and after doing that, fix the damn man-marking system... seriously, it is year 2010 and I can barely tell the difference between PES5 and PES11 or FIFA11: running and crashing into the ball carrier, resulting in never-ending spot-kicks due to the lack of non-running physics/animations.

 

[Hello Clitty]

I like the points being raised, but how would you use the left stick? I've been playing football games since the early 90s and many things are still the same. The AI has always cheated, defending has always been difficult, keepers spotty, the controls unnecessarily difficult. I think there needs to be a revolution, wipe the slate clean and think outside the box. Which reminds me, is the Wii version something in the right direction? I've never played it.

 

[Du 1337]

He got banned but the thread still stands, lawl, that's funny.
With all the swearing, he reminds me of the Angry Video Game Nerd

 

[Sho]

When I press shoot, i'd like the attacker to shoot and not take a 1st touch, that would be nice.

Would be nice for the defender to tackle when i press the tackle button too.

Would be even nicer if the CPU/my defenders didnt stop when a though-ball is put in.

You thinks thats asking too much here?

Would be nice if the auto/semi switching actually worked also.

:faceplm:

 

[Tech_Skill]

He got banned but the thread still stands, lawl, that's funny.
With all the swearing, he reminds me of the Angry Video Game Nerd

Still here motherfucker, you remind me of Stevie Wonder cos you must have been blind as fuck to miss the other 50 posts I made in this thread, which I couldn't have made if i was banned now was I. "Lawl oh boys thats so funny"

I might be a nerd, but I'm actually a good looking nerd, don't let this Nerd around your chick, once she sees something bigger than your 5 inch maggot, she'll have mixed race kids popping out her pussy like you wouldn't believe.....and you'll be paying for em so whose the fucking nerd now :laugh:

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NOW...................

Here is something I wanted to speak about today.

VIDEOS, in light of what we have seen from BOTH games, do you think is fair to make CERTAIN judgments on a game from the Video? I would say and that aspects of the games played out as i expected from the videos (particularly the fifa11 game), which i intially thought was very similar to the other iterations, it was also clear as day from the videos that the ''pro passing'' was dodgy as hell and that it was still possible to ping pong about (although it was clear it was alot less easier)

I think certain videos can tell you some important details about the gameplay. Or do people subscribe to the you cannot judge stuff on videos other than Graphics?

What do you all think?

 

[shaun7]

You can take certain points from a video but not much.
Speed being one of the things you cannot take, because the video will suffer from framerate issues so it'll make the game appaear either faster or slower.
But you can get a general idea of the game.
But then again, a video won't get you the feeling of being in the game and this is a very important aspect in a football game.
So I still think that although you can get a general idea of the gameplay, you can't quite experience it so it's not 100% fair to judge it from a video.
But as I said, you can get a general idea.
In my opinion a demo is way better to base the game on.

 

[Tech_Skill]

You can take certain points from a video but not much.
Speed being one of the things you cannot take, because the video will suffer from framerate issues so it'll make the game appaear either faster or slower.
But you can get a general idea of the game.
But then again, a video won't get you the feeling of being in the game and this is a very important aspect in a football game.
So I still think that although you can get a general idea of the gameplay, you can't quite experience it so it's not 100% fair to judge it from a video.
But as I said, you can get a general idea.
In my opinion a demo is way better to base the game on.

For sure, but what im getting at here, Is that I think its possible for some people to make some good assumptions on the gameplay based on the videos. When i saw fifa 11 videos it became obvious to me that the pro passing wasnt what EA were making it out to be, ''Pro Passing'' tends to affect WEIGHT of the pass, as in if you try a 1st time pass with a shit passer, the ball will be played at a slower pace which in tight areas allows the opposition to get a hold of it.

What EA made out in their promotion of pro passing mixed with Personality + was that poor passers would see a varying DIRECTION on their passes, aka, the passes would go into the wrong directions quite frequently as well as being over or underhit, When I watched the videos of the gameplay, this was clearly not apparent, passes made by lower skill players seems to be on target, but underhit with little variation in direction.

So those videos helped me make a judgement call on the pro passing, which was backed up when I played the demo.

Sometimes I find videos quite useful actually.

 

[Sabatasso]

Because it's actually, literally, impossible to dribble with the ball... It just lacks a lot of excitement and substance when dribbling with the ball, it's PES5 with more directions... in year 2010.

Ten thumbs or something? Dribbling in pes2011 is easier than ever before!
It also looks good and feels right.
Pitch length solo runs is quite hard on Top Player though, if that's what you're after then I may suggest FIFA 2000 or something...

 

[Amateur]

NOW...................

Here is something I wanted to speak about today.

VIDEOS, in light of what we have seen from BOTH games, do you think is fair to make CERTAIN judgments on a game from the Video? I would say and that aspects of the games played out as i expected from the videos (particularly the fifa11 game), which i intially thought was very similar to the other iterations, it was also clear as day from the videos that the ''pro passing'' was dodgy as hell and that it was still possible to ping pong about (although it was clear it was alot less easier)

I think certain videos can tell you some important details about the gameplay. Or do people subscribe to the you cannot judge stuff on videos other than Graphics?

What do you all think?

You most certainly CAN judge a Football Sim without playing the game, because a VIDEO will suffice.

A VIDEO will tell you what the left analogue stick can do and what the left analogue stick cannot do; that alone, is enough to judge the final product.

A VIDEO will also show you how EA Sports and Konami have decided to hide the underlying flaw; the underlying flaw being the fact that you cannot actually dribble with the ball.

Of course a VIDEO will not give you a proper feel of the game; but personally, I do not look at VIDEOS and think about how the game feels, I just pay attention to the general things: how does the left analogue stick works...

That's the bottom line for me, how does the left analogue stick works... Oh, I have seen it in the VIDEO, it still functions like a d-pad; oh well... I guess I should expect a broken defensive system yet again.

From that point onwards, it's not hard to imagine how the game will feel, it will feel like a video game that is still restricted by the d-pad button.

Considering the fact that all the football sims that I have played in my life-time, are restricted by the d-pad button; then no, it is not hard to imagine how the game will feel when I can see, in the VIDEO, that it still is restricted by the d-pad button.

So yeah, I do think a VIDEO is very objective and relevant. Comparing VIDEOS of PES11 or FIFA11 with VIDEOS of real football, is a great way of knowing or learning, informing yourself, about where the game is failing.

Ten thumbs or something? Dribbling in pes2011 is easier than ever before!
It also looks good and feels right.
Pitch length solo runs is quite hard on Top Player though, if that's what you're after then I may suggest FIFA 2000 or something...

I suggest you learn how to read before saying stupid things like you just did,

Did you not understand the parts where I said that it is impossible to dribble with the ball?

Dribbling in pes2011 is easier than ever before!

The fact that you started your second phrase by suggesting that DRIBBLING is possible................. and that it is easier than ever before....... tells me four things,

1st -- you did not bothered reading what I had to say, and you have no intention of at least trying to understand what I had to say; you just want to make fun of my argument.

2nd -- you do not respect me, you think I am deluded.

3rd -- you don't know shit about the game that you are playing, you are a fan boy who should not be taken seriously by anyone who isn't a fan boy; end of.

4th -- you think that making it easier is something positive... how is making an automatic and restrictive system easier than it already was... something positive? again, it just highlights what a massive fan boy you are.

Pitch length solo runs is quite hard on Top Player though, if that's what you're after then I may suggest FIFA 2000 or something...

I am complaining about the over-abundance of RUNNING ANIMATIONS, I am complaining about the non-existence of NON-RUNNING ANIMATIONS....

I want the left analogue stick to function like an analogue stick, instead of being restricted by the limitations of the d-pad.

And your response to my argument, is that I should go and play FIFA 2000? Really?

I am complaining about the restrictions of the d-pad button, and you tell me to go and play a video game that revolves around the d-pad?

Did you even bothered reading and understanding what I had to say... before actually questioning what I had to say? Do you even think before you talk?

Why do you even bother responding to me when you do not respect me nor have any interest in understanding what I am saying?

Actually, you don't have to answer my questions... and you don't have to read my comments... just stay the fuck away when you see one of my long essays, and you won't have anything to complain about.

No, doesn't happen in my game (PC). Might be a console problem, and if it is, it serves you right for supporting the ever declining quality of games in general by buying and supporting console game industry. Games have never been shallower since the production of these abominations started.

It's funny how you disapprove about shallowness and superficiality, and yet your comments are always shallow and superficial....

I wonder why so much people finance and support the console game industry; maybe, just maybe, just like you did not bothered reading and thinking before you talked to me... maybe a lot of people do not like to think when they play PES or FIFA. Could that be possible?

Which explains why it is impossible to dribble with the ball, because instead of thinking about your intentions and thinking about how you disguise your intentions; in PES11 and FIFA11 your intentions are always in action...

And thus, you cannot actually think about how you disguise your intentions because it is in fact impossible to disguise intentions that are already in motion: it is easier than ever before! it's so automatic and restrictive that you don't even need to think when you dribble past 3 defenders! great!

Yeah, I think you support the production of shallow video games, and I think the vast majority of fans support the production of shallow video games; which is why the console gaming industry exists, because we pay for it, and we ask for it.

If it makes you feel better about yourself as a gamer or as a person, yes I agree with you, I am deluded, I should go play FIFA 2000; thank you for your valuable suggestion.

Now you can (hopefully) go away, knowing that you are right and I am wrong; which is what you wanted to hear... you have succeeded in wasting my time, congrats.

 

[Sabatasso]

Double.. lag sry.

 

[Sabatasso]

Yet another incredibly long post

You obviously don't like me, I have no problem with that because I don't really like you either for some reason. Now that that's out in the open, let's skip to the actual reply. I choose to ignore the fact that you tried to ridicule me, and instead notify you that you obviously don't understand sarcasm.

My opinions are not less worth than yours just because I don't use a million words to describe them, I tend to believe that readers have a few braincells too and don't feel the need to over explain everything. You may call that shallow...

You say this and that is broken in PES 2011, I say it's working but could be better.

You say there's no dribbling with the ball in PES2011, I say it is, but it's not effective compared to gambeta, and the feints work in all directions too.

Now, just because I try to make a funny remark out of one of your quotes does not mean I am out to get you in any way, the sooner you realize that the better.

 

[James_dean]

You obviously don't like me, I have no problem with that because I don't really like you either for some reason. Now that that's out in the open, let's skip to the actual reply. I choose to ignore the fact that you tried to ridicule me, and instead notify you that you obviously don't understand sarcasm.

My opinions are not less worth than yours just because I don't use a million words to describe them, I tend to believe that readers have a few braincells too and don't feel the need to over explain everything. You may call that shallow...

You say this and that is broken in PES 2011, I say it's working but could be better.

You say there's no dribbling with the ball in PES2011, I say it is, but it's not effective compared to gambeta, and the feints work in all directions too.

Now, just because I try to make a funny remark out of one of your quotes does not mean I am out to get you in any way, the sooner you realize that the better.

With all the different animals in the forest we could all be friends

 

[Amateur]

Ok,

So I read the following thing about PES11, it reads,

"the addition of 1000 all-new animations has greatly increased the number of ball touches during dribbling. Using the D-pad to adjust timing and power makes it possible to change the distance of ball touches and the speed of pullbacks."

You can read the full explanation here: http://www.pes2011.com/en/index.html

I think it sounds interesting, but I am confused about what it means: do they mean that you can adjust timing and power with the left analogue stick AND the d-pad? Or is it something that you can ONLY do with the d-pad?

You obviously don't like me, I have no problem with that because I don't really like you either for some reason. Now that that's out in the open, let's skip to the actual reply. I choose to ignore the fact that you tried to ridicule me, and instead notify you that you obviously don't understand sarcasm.

I have no reason to like or dislike you, I don't know you; however, whenever you talk about me or whenever you respond to me... it is always with the same sarcastic tone.

If you used that tone 5 times out of 10... that would be cool... but no, you ALWAYS use the same tone when you mention my name or respond to me directly.

I do not like that. You do not see me responding to your comments do you? You know why? Because I don't give a shit about your opinion regarding the overall product.

I would appreciate if you could share your opinion regarding the FACT that I have discussed; but that's it, I do not care about whatever it is you think about PES11 as a whole.

I am talking about a very specific fact: the LEFT ANALOGUE STICK is restricted by the D-PAD CONCEPT that was used in PES5 and PES6.

What is your opinion regarding the mentioned FACT? How would you fix it? Why do you think it has not been fixed yet?

That's all I wanted to hear; but when you quote me.... and you are under the impression that what I claim to be a FACT, is just my OPINION....

I do take that as an insult; I guess you disagree with the fact; cool. By the way, I do understand sarcasm, it is not my fault that you do not know how and when to use it.

My opinions are not less worth than yours just because I don't use a million words to describe them, I tend to believe that readers have a few braincells too and don't feel the need to over explain everything. You may call that shallow...

Like I already mentioned, I am talking about a FACT, I am not talking about my opinion.

In my opinion, I still enjoy playing PES10.... that doesn't changes the FACT that it is impossible to dribble in PES10 and FIFA10 and PES11 and FIFA11.

I fully respect the opinion of someone who thinks that FIFA10 is better than PES10; or that PES10 is better than FIFA10.

When you talk about opinions... Opinions are very interesting if we are talking about politics or music or history or something complicated; but PES is not complicated...

As far as opinions go regarding PES, you have three options: I agree, I disagree, I don't give a shit, there is nothing left to discuss... because it is an opinion.

I have no interest in doing that, at least not at the moment, and not until I have PES11 for at least three weeks.

So I reiterate my intention, I am talking about a FACT... and you cannot really disagree or agree with a fact, the fact exists whether you like it or not.

I consider you shallow and lazy (as a gamer and consumer) because that's what your words reflect, if you changed the way you express yourself in paper, then my opinion about you would also change; you talk about OPINIONS... And hey, no OPINION is above another OPINION, even more so when talking about such a simple thing as PES or FIFA.

But I am talking about a simple FACT, and if you actually bothered reading, you would have known this by now.

I honestly don't care about your opinion regarding PES11, I never asked your opinion about the game as a whole; what I wanted to hear, is your opinion regarding this fact that I have explained...

And you respond by saying that you can DRIBBLE with the ball.... I take it that you do not agree with the fact.

You say this and that is broken in PES 2011, I say it's working but could be better.

You say there's no dribbling with the ball in PES2011, I say it is, but it's not effective compared to gambeta, and the feints work in all directions too.

And I say, YOU are wrong and I am right.

You think it works, you are under the delusion that you can dribble; FACT remains that you cannot... but if you do not know what dribbling is...

You don't understand the argument, you do not understand the difference between RUNNING with the ball and DRIBBLING with the ball.

You do not understand the repercussions that come hand in hand with the FACT that you can cover spaces of over 100 feet of distance by simply directing the left analogue stick WITHOUT the assistance of a SPRINT button.

In other words, you can RUN without the assistance if a SPRINT button... that's a serious problem, that's not a bug, and it's been there since day one; it is a d-pad restriction, it is not an analogue restriction.

You cannot DRIBBLE in PES nor in FIFA, you can do TRICKS and you can RUN past defenders; yes it is working in some way or the other... but PES10 also worked, and PES5 also worked... it does not changes the fact that the defensive system is broken because you CANNOT do any manual dribbling and man-marking.

You CAN manually RUN, but you CANNOT manually DRIBBLE nor MAN-MARK... There's a big difference between ACCELERATING or RUNNING with the ball and actually DRIBBLING with the ball.

If you do not know where the key difference lies and why it is such a big deal, then it will not bother you as much; your opinion... not mine.

Now, just because I try to make a funny remark out of one of your quotes does not mean I am out to get you in any way, the sooner you realize that the better.

Yeah, do you really think I waste my time worrying about you or someone else trying to get me?

I am talking about a simple FACT here, nothing less and nothing more; you are the person who is under the delusion that, what I claim is a FACT, is really my opinion. I just think you have a condescending attitude.

If you can only come up with funny remarks and sarcasm, but your comments never have any real content in them; then you should know that I am not interested...

My comments, or at least my intention, is to encourage constructive criticism REGARDING a fact... I am not interested in CENSORSHIP dressed up with the word "funny" or "sarcastic".

And I ask, why do you continue mentioning my name or quoting me when I have done nothing to you?

If you have nothing good to say about the actual argument, then why even bother mentioning my name or even responding to me? You are wasting your time, as well as mine.

And by the way, the long essays, over-explaining things, is not an act, I am not trying to lecture anyone, this is how I express myself when I want to explain a fact: I like to be clear about it, and I like to cover the same thing at least twice, so there is no confusion.

I am not telling you that your opinion is stupid nor am I questioning your opinion, and if it sounded like that at some point, that is not my intention.

PES11 is the most excited I have been about a video game... in the last 3 years at least, because I know it is a good video game.

I'm just not the type of consumer who cares about what your OPINION is regarding SUBJECTIVE matters regarding PES; if you look closely, I have only discussed one simple thing: the way the left analogue stick is employed or used in PES11 and FIFA11.

 

[Sabatasso]

You cannot DRIBBLE in PES nor in FIFA, you can do TRICKS and you can RUN past defenders; yes it is working in some way or the other... but PES10 also worked, and PES5 also worked...

Definition of dribble
1. To let flow or fall in drops or an unsteady stream.
2. Sports
a. To move (a ball or puck) by repeated light bounces or kicks, as in basketball or soccer.
b. To hit (a baseball, for example) so that it bounces slowly.

I do understand that you don't think dribbling is possible in PES or FIFA, but that's not a fact, it's still your opinion and I disagree with you but I believe it could be better.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=maradona+dribble&aq=f

When you say running is not part of dribbling, you are just wrong. Gambeta is a form of dribbling that involves body feints and quick turns while running.

Dribbling is a combination of feints, turns and speed where the goal is to trick your opponent into believing you are going to do something different than what you actually are going to do. That is possible in both FIFA and PES. It's restricted ofcourse, but they are computer games and none of them claim to be a dribbling simulator.

About the analog stick, if they coded it to move slower when barely touched and full speed when moved all the way and possibly pressed in, it would perhaps be better than what we have now. I would prefer body feints being controlled by this stick as well.

But I personally feel that there are more urgent fixes that's needed in PES 2011 than the left stick though, like AI team work and possession keeping for example.
I've managed to improve the general flow of all previous versions of the games through modding, and I intend to do the same this year after I've studied enough AI vs AI games of different teams and find out what the underlying problem is. The obvious ones is that the AI is stupid and use too much time on the ball when attacking.

Facts & opinions, just because you are not able to dribble the way you want, does not make it a fact that you can't dribble in these games, and on top you're saying I don't know what dribbling is... shame on you.
You take your opinion and make it a fact because you think so, but it's still just an opinion.

it does not changes the fact that the defensive system is broken because you CANNOT do any manual dribbling and man-marking.

You can not manually hit the ref in the face either, but you don't see me complaining about it. There is a limit to what one would be able to do, and not to do in a game. Realism in a game is limited, and the most important thing a game can do is to capture the essence of what it's supposed to be and to fake it good.

You say defensive system is broken, I say could be better. And you can do manual man-marking, I do it all the time in BAL and when I play against friends/AI. I mark or cover with the player I control, and pressure the ball using friendly AI players with the button assigned for that. (A)


PS. Let's say you like big tits, and your girl has small tits.. do you tell her that her tits are broken? That her tits aren't tits, but small bumps on her chest where the tits are supposed to be?

Small tits are still tits, just as gambeta is still dribbling. By renaming it to "running with the ball" does not change the fact that it's still dribbling.