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Screenshots, Videos, & Much More!!! - Part 1

Alolo91

Registered User
Are you a PES defender or something?
The trailers are indeed very bad,all you can see is Messi running like a pupet with rigid movements and unrealistic passes.
Maybe I wouldn't be so harsh on KONAMI but they just keep coming with expresions like "The king is back",we've made tons of improvements and we have added 1000 new animations and I barely saw 10 new animations from the videos they released.

I am not a PES defender, but i sometimes defend PES when people say stupid things like you did: "all you can see is Messi running like a pupet"

Seriously, Watch in the trailer if messi really run like a puppet. You have probably never seen a puppet run, Oh wait! Puppets can't run. Use words as an adult would use. Not like a 10 year old. "Messi rUn liek a RoBot" :lol:

I haven't seen Konami saying "The King Is Back". That's something the fans use often. I don't know how you barely saw 10 new animations. Plus, were you expecting all 1000 new animations to be in that vid or something?
 

Pantilimon

Registered User
I am not a PES defender, but i sometimes defend PES when people say stupid things like you did: "all you can see is Messi running like a pupet"

Seriously, Watch in the trailer if messi really run like a puppet. You have probably never seen a puppet run, Oh wait! Puppets can't run. Use words as an adult would use. Not like a 10 year old. "Messi rUn liek a RoBot" :lol:

How do you want me to say?Messi runs like a non-football player,like a f@g?
Maybe PES has some good parts like the AI(except goalkeepers) and tactics and so on,but the animations are too lame for a football game.They should port FIFA's animations,then I'll be the happy to play a proper football game.

I haven't seen Konami saying "The King Is Back". That's something the fans use often. I don't know how you barely saw 10 new animations. Plus, were you expecting all 1000 new animations to be in that vid or something?

1000 new animations...this means I should've seen in that video completely new animations.Instead I saw more animations from the older PES and very few new animations.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^This won't lead anywhere, It's useless to argue on something that you didn't play or see a proper gameplay video of.
It's that simple. No gameplay video and no demo played, then NO JUDGING because it's useless. And Animations are felt and seen properly when you play the game and watch a proper match taken from gameplay. That's when we can judge the animations properly.
 

RAMAXWY

Registered User
^This won't lead anywhere, It's useless to argue on something that you didn't play or see a proper gameplay video of.
It's that simple. No gameplay video and no demo played, then NO JUDGING because it's useless. And Animations are felt and seen properly when you play the game and watch a proper match taken from gameplay. That's when we can judge the animations properly.

that is why i ignore stupidity.
constructive criticism i can deal with but stupidity i just ignore.
 

Pantilimon

Registered User
that is why i ignore stupidity.
constructive criticism i can deal with but stupidity i just ignore.

You're just to stupid to have an opinion.You just suck on it.
Don't care if I get a ban because there's no hope for me that KONAMI will release a game that I'll actually enjoy it.
Most of the PES forums are just for fanboys,praising their beloved game,because the feedback isn't listened by KONAMI.
 

Alolo91

Registered User
How do you want me to say?Messi runs like a non-football player,like a f@g?
Maybe PES has some good parts like the AI(except goalkeepers) and tactics and so on,but the animations are too lame for a football game.They should port FIFA's animations,then I'll be the happy to play a proper football game.



1000 new animations...this means I should've seen in that video completely new animations.Instead I saw more animations from the older PES and very few new animations.

*Ultra Facepalm*

Use words as an adult would use" How can you still not get it?

"but the animations are too lame for a football game" What a hell is that supposed to mean? In what way are the lame?

Just look how Amateur wrote: "The animations shown in the trailer do not show the same fluid and realistic motions of the Messi trailer"

Look at his choice of words. Not using "Messi runs like a puppet" or something.

This is the last time. I won't be explaining it again. Tard :rolleyes:
 

Pantilimon

Registered User
*Ultra Facepalm*

Use words as an adult would use" How can you still not get it?

"but the animations are too lame for a football game" What a hell is that supposed to mean? In what way are the lame?

Just look how Amateur wrote: "The animations shown in the trailer do not show the same fluid and realistic motions of the Messi trailer"

Look at his choice of words. Not using "Messi runs like a puppet" or something.

This is the last time. I won't be explaining it again. Tard :rolleyes:

Listen you fanboy,you still wouldn't understand it even if I use scientific words because you're too fuckin dumb.Stick your fag game into your faggy ass!
Hope you got it now.Clear and simple.:lol:
 

El_Pupi

Registered User
^This won't lead anywhere, It's useless to argue on something that you didn't play or see a proper gameplay video of.
It's that simple. No gameplay video and no demo played, then NO JUDGING because it's useless. And Animations are felt and seen properly when you play the game and watch a proper match taken from gameplay. That's when we can judge the animations properly.

but there are some facts we already know, out of these 1000 new animations, some of them will be exclusively to the master league mode, others to the BAL mode, and other animations will be distributed to all modes in general. but what about the online mode? i think a merely 30% of these new animations will be in online mode.

plus they are not all entirely new, some of these new animations are just replacing old ones, is not like they added more to the game without taking something out.

this is similar to the stadiums, every year konami comes up with a new stadium (stadio amazonas) but takes away onother one (stadio olimpico torino) wtf. i dont get that.

this time i am being tough on this edition of pes, because i dont wanna get my hopes up like ive done in the past and the be dissapointed by the limited content we get. i know there are alot of fans psyched about pes2011 right now that will be let down once they see its not what they thought it would have been. it happens every year.
 

kiwanis

Registered User
Adam "Batty Boy" Bhatti of WENB is without doubt the single most corrupt, duplicitous and dishonest member of the PES community. That is all (ask Chris Davies of FSB or Placebo of Evo-Web if you want to know more about his dreadful conduct).

But aside from that isn't interesting that all over the community the "king is back" phrase has been used...but if one is critical of PES the same people defend it to the hilt? Odd contradiction yes? If PES has been so great how can the latest version mark a return to form? There is an obvious logical incompatibility between those propositions.
 

shaun7

Registered User
but there are some facts we already know, out of these 1000 new animations, some of them will be exclusively to the master league mode, others to the BAL mode, and other animations will be distributed to all modes in general. but what about the online mode? i think a merely 30% of these new animations will be in online mode.

plus they are not all entirely new, some of these new animations are just replacing old ones, is not like they added more to the game without taking something out.

this is similar to the stadiums, every year konami comes up with a new stadium (stadio amazonas) but takes away onother one (stadio olimpico torino) wtf. i dont get that.

this time i am being tough on this edition of pes, because i dont wanna get my hopes up like ive done in the past and the be dissapointed by the limited content we get. i know there are alot of fans psyched about pes2011 right now that will be let down once they see its not what they thought it would have been. it happens every year.

I know about the stadiums and it's a shame but the animations part doesn't sound right.
Where did you get the percentages? And BTW the animations can never be exclusive to a mode. Well, BAL is slightly different, but if you play with 1 player outside of BAL, the animations should remain the same.
Also, taking out some old animations is a good thing because they weren't good enough.
But then again, as I said, it's way too early to judge.
 

OCKRASS

Registered User
Listen you fanboy,you still wouldn't understand it even if I use scientific words because you're too fuckin dumb.Stick your fag game into your faggy ass!
Hope you got it now.Clear and simple.:lol:

Sup Pantilimon,

Don't get too upset about his comments...he needs to step back and assess his statements about correct grammar on a forum discussing a video game.

I hope he realizes that we are all sharing comments on a video game here ...yep ...a freaking video game. Kids and adults play video game. No big words needed here. Some people think that using big words makes them look smart.

...and I agree with you Messi runs like a puppet on the damn game ..it looks awful and for the record, I have seen puppets run ...well not in real life ....but then again, we are not discussing real life actions here now .....are we?
 

OCKRASS

Registered User
Adam "Batty Boy"

but if one is critical of PES the same people defend it to the hilt? Odd contradiction yes? If PES has been so great how can the latest version mark a return to form? There is an obvious logical incompatibility between those propositions.

"Batty Boy" ...:lol: Term for fags used by Jamaicans.....

Interesting comment on returning to form. There would be no return if it never left ...right? PES has been gone for a looong time now. The promise of return has been denied by one individual ...Seabass. The fish needs to go. Don't get your hopes up too high ....there will be no return this year either.

Hey what happened to the 200 man blue sky team? Are they still currently working on PES 2012..? Maybe we need to see that trailer instead.
The first vid released looked good with Messi's movement and all. I was the first to point out that it was a made up video and not gameplay but was blasted for being ".too negative"....to realize the obvious brilliant gameplay..and how his eyes will now follow the ball ....and ohh the grass looks spectacular.

Does anyone realize the the model of Messi is not even used during gameplay ....only for cut scenes? I have never seen any of the players' eyes during gameplay or loose grass on the pitch.

Looking at the small amount of game play released along with other videos, the animation is way different from the first trailer...much worst in my opinion.
 

Ultimate777

Banned
Its looks like you guys are just following the flow, Because you actually have nothing to say. Someone writes something negative and suddenly you agree.

Just look: "well then konami makes the worsts video game trailers ever for a series, seriously this sh*t doesn't captivate my eye at all, theyre dull and dead...."

Answer honestly, Is this really true? You can think a 8 year old wrote this.

And @ Ockrass

No new engine ???
No online ???

:rolleyes:

@ Pantilimon, If you read the reviews last year, you would see many of them were negative. And PES wasn't a big failure just because i didn't meet your expectation.

Heard of "Growing Up"?

Spot on. Just pubescent idiots who secretly want the game to be bad so the can they can say that all their pre-judgements of the before they even played it were right. Just so they can appear to be the know it alls that they so desperately crave to be.

The trailer was good and it looked a lot different to 2010 and you could see you didn't have squint your eyes to notice the difference. Its the over analysis and nit pickers who having problems praising anything. It's pathetic. Then go listening to Adam who they process to hate only to moan even further. I just don't get this place
 

RAMAXWY

Registered User
Spot on. Just pubescent idiots who secretly want the game to be bad so the can they can say that all their pre-judgements of the before they even played it were right. Just so they can appear to be the know it alls that they so desperately crave to be.

The trailer was good and it looked a lot different to 2010 and you could see you didn't have squint your eyes to notice the difference. Its the over analysis and nit pickers who having problems praising anything. It's pathetic. Then go listening to Adam who they process to hate only to moan even further. I just don't get this place

Amen.
 

Ultimate777

Banned

Thanks. This is why I've manage to come up with my own concept as I'm fed up with everyone getting things wrong. Seabass has come out and said we need a Player Reality Concept. This was after he was thinking of including amateurs 20 minute concept after Seabass heard he'd been going on about it for years on here and understood his frustrations. But are the quotes on what he's had to say recently about my own concept I've developed and redefined.

Seabass: Our team for the PES 2010 production has been realizing “importance of team play” and “player individuality” in the game. I know European users want more reality in PES’

If you read between the lines, Seabass clearly mentions ''player reality'' which is my Player Reality Concept(PRC) that he's heard about. It's most likely due to be implement for pes 2012 as I only created it this past April so he couldnt fit everything in for this years rendition. Below is the details of the concept and how they will work.
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*The Dressing Room Concept- .Look how important the dressing room is in real life, this is where most of the antics are played out, and footballers show their true personal traits and individuality. This is an ambitious concept but if done correctly it would change the world.

With PES I don’t get to see enough of what the players get up to in their personal time- We need more TIME to show these aspects. If konami can show the players going into the changing room to clean their boots, we can see the water washing the dirt, mud and grass off their accessories. This will give more freedom of choice and satisfy all parties. Think of it like a dress rehearsal, the player has to decide which boots he chooses to wear for the next match.

Konami can also make players have certain superstitions before going into the game. For example someone like Torres will not put on his shorts until every other member of the team have put theirs on first. Or David Beckham can have to look in the mirror going back and forth 15 times before feeling satisfied that he looks ok for the match. Or you can select for a player to choose to put salt down his pants and on to the pitch as a lucky charm. This can add to certain OCD aspect to some of the players attributes and each individual player would stand out even more and add a new dimension to the reality of the game. This can happen in the dressing room before they go out in the match and at half time when they’re EXTRA nervous. They can even show some players biting their nails and shaking at the interval. I was thinking of player bust ups where if you tap x while standing up in the dressing room, you can have the player stare his teammate out because he feels he hasn’t played well
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Getting Ready Concept* Having the player shower/bath like in REAL life - How can konami expect to have a football simulation if they don’t have clean players? This is an outdated concept and has flaws to exploit otherwise I won’t ever play this game because it won’t ever evolve if this is not down. The player needs to have options of different soaping products while in the shower . This also same time provides hair style gels to style their hair and different suits to choose from before and after the game. This would be revolutionary and would change the way we look at the players
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*WAGS(wives and girlfriends) Concept - Each player needs to have his OWN wife where they can be shown in the crowd or in the car with him(I’ll expand on this later), ideally what konami can do is show wags together like in real life and the children sitting on their laps while watching the match. This will change the fundamental concept of how we THINK. They should be there also to greet the players after the game. Then there should be cut scenes at the home of them making love in bedroom like what happens in real life. Rooney can have colleen trying to make another baby together and then that same baby can be Wayne rooney’s son and grow up to be just as good and have his own wag when his development increases in Master League mode
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*Sex Concept - This carries on from the WAG concept which is based on REAL life as this needs to happen. When it home you can have the option of having one two or three different WAGS. You can have the option of pretending you are committed to one of each of them while going behind cheating behind their backs. Or the player can take the risk of asking all 2 or 3 wags if they like to do something together in the bedroom. The maximum can only be 3 otherwise it will be too difficult for konami to implement and some fans wouldnt understand it through lack of experience. Then there can be the option for strictly 18+ players of the game to have the option of manoeuvring different positions in the bedroom with the WAG as you the player. You'll then be asked the option on whether you would like to use a contraceptive by answering Yes or No. if yes then there be no children to produce that is capable of becoming the next master youth talent. If no then obviously you will get the new child prodigy feature. However there is risk the player can catch an illness and be out of the team. So it is double edged decision you have to make like in Real like


*Cars Concept - In real life players are multi millionaires with a wide range of selection of different cars to choose from. The purpose of this concept is so players can actually drive to training and then drive home after the game. This can be easily implemented if konami simply use the same selection of cars as Grand turismo or Need for Speed. And like in real life Ronaldo can have a Ferrari which he can crash into a tunnel with. There can be player car mode where you race against other teammates by selecting L1 and R2, and there should be shop mode to kit up your car, change the rims, spray, soup up the engine everything which you use the master league money with.
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*Drink And Drive Mode concept – Lets take a look at John Terry, in REAL life a standard nigh out for this type of player, is to go to a club with his teammates after a victory, get lashed and instead of calling for a taxi he just drive his Mercedes Benzes and ends up into a lamppost. This is what needs to happen in PES, maybe not the club scene, but there needs to be a scene where players go to local club and come out falling over themselves, and then having the option to say yes or no to drink driving. This will offer us users more flexibility as the player were using has to make life changing decisions under the influence and should effect his BAL or ML career as the police may have get involved and put a ankle tag on the player if found to be guilty of drink driving .
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*Driving 2ithout a Licence and Insurance mode Concept - This option can be available to the youth players who come through the ranks in Master league at 15 -16 years old and konami should have this feature so some of them can be boy-racers who can have a bad attitude and effect their development.
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*Tattoo Concept - Look at David Beckham, Djibril Cissé, ibrahimovic and see how many tattoos they have when they take their shirt off, this NEEDS to happen with PES and FIFA if they ever want the game to evolve. Now imagine having the ability to decorate the player’s bodies at your will and choosing, bringing the game to life with a greater realism. You can decide to tattoo their arms, back, legs or even Mike Tyson tattoo their face. How many years is it going to take for konami to get Stephens Irelands tattoo on his back? http://sportingsmilesblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/ireland-stephen_tattoo480.jpg

*Aging concept - This needs to be done, how can a game be based on real life if the players don't age. A 36 yeah can look like he's still 21. I'm not having it. Get the grey in, wrinkles bladder problems which can keep a player out of the game. Some should lose their teeth. They should have the option of getting coaches badges or becoming pundits on tv coverage station which will earn the club their assigned to more money. There needs to be a 'FEAR' option where players become scare of getting and have the choice of taking their own life before the get into the 40's

*Drug addiction concept - This can be in both BAL mode and ML mode where players can have a secret addiction to either crack,drink, or cannabis or performance enhancing drugs. These can have different effects on the players depending which substance the choose to take. For example if they chose to take a line before a game in the bathroom or before they turned up to training, they'd be super alert and frantic and easily agitated more likely to be sent off in a game. If they drink then the players vision and passing accuracy would be effected. If those chose to use performance enhancing drugs then they'll play similar to Maradona for a few games and have wild celebrations. The players can have they father who can be the supplier similar to how Jamaine Pennant has one and John Terry has their own. If the player wants to end their life before reaching old age then they can have the option of taking heroin od or nitric acid. The players can also have the option of confessing their drug problem to the manager. If this is in BAL mode then its YOU that has the option. In ML when you're the manager you have to wait for the player to do it if you suspect he has the problem. There needs to be the option as manager to follow the player around and keep an extra eye on him if you suspect it to be the case with the option of displining the player.

Overall with PRC implemented into the game, it can have everything that will cater to all audiences. This would be a proper evolution, an improvement in every respect. If children don’t understand some of the newer aspects of the game or have the patience for it....fuck em! This is about what I want and what happens in real life between players and their teammates that konami needs to do
 

Alolo91

Registered User
Sup Pantilimon,

Don't get too upset about his comments...he needs to step back and assess his statements about correct grammar on a forum discussing a video game.

I hope he realizes that we are all sharing comments on a video game here ...yep ...a freaking video game. Kids and adults play video game. No big words needed here. Some people think that using big words makes them look smart.

...and I agree with you Messi runs like a puppet on the damn game ..it looks awful and for the record, I have seen puppets run ...well not in real life ....but then again, we are not discussing real life actions here now .....are we?

It is so obvious that you still don't know what you are talking about. You have said "No Online" twice in your latest posts. I replied and never got an answer. Then you go answering Pantilimon and talk about me. :lol:

I started like a week ago answering your and other stupid tards nonsense. I have seen your negative posts for months. I didn't say a thing then, but now when someone replies to your posts and making you look like a fool, you come with this:

"I hope he realizes that we are all sharing comments on a video game here ...yep ...a freaking video game"

Its suddenly sharing comments now. Before, It was you destroying PES with your negativity. :rolleyes:

Remember this from my last post: "Its looks like you guys are just following the flow, Because you actually have nothing to say. Someone writes something negative and suddenly you agree"

You fit perfectly in. You agree with him about messi running like a puppet. Talk about being childish. We are disscusting a game which is trying to replicate real life football. Trying to implent realistic animations.
 

Die Hard Pes Fan

Registered User
As the days count down I am getting more and more excited about the game.

I am especially looking forward to Edit Mode, which I read has unlimited slots (cant remember where, probably somewhere on WEBN) and of course Stadium Editior. Cant wait to get my teeth into that. :)

Also looking forward to BAL, looks good, and if you really looked at the picture of the manager in the dressing room, you will notice he is telling the right back to press forward, maybe that hints that you can play defence, well hopefully, so I can play my natural RB or CB positions. :w00t

Here, just afew questions:
What other news can we expect, much more??
ML news, BAL news, Edit Mode news??

When will the other information come out, nearer release, or just splattered in between the two months??
 

Alolo91

Registered User
Here, just afew questions:
What other news can we expect, much more??
ML news, BAL news, Edit Mode news??

When will the other information come out, nearer release, or just splattered in between the two months??

I don't know about ML news. We should get that. But all i know so far that we will get BAL and Edit Mode news soon. Atleast i think at Gamescom. Starts at 18th August - 23rd August. Something like that.
 
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