HannibleL316 said:
Bobslob ive seen a lot of posts about players speed stats meaning nothing and i cant understand why people are saying this.
Its very realistic, its simple, if your through with martins, henry, ronaldo you simply wont be caught!
I hated PES4 for the fact when i was clearly 5-10 yards clear of the last defender with people like martins and the defender would catch me up!
What makes it worse is that the cpu player without the ball is running at the same speed as your player without the ball.
PES may have the best playing engine but when you compare other parts of PES to other games past and present PES is poor.
Master League is crap compared to Sensible Soccer. PES master league has leagues which all have the same amount of teams. Sensible soccer has most leagues, seasons, cups and games can be cancelled if you get an extended run in the cups. The leagues were also variable in size. Sensible soccer came out over 10 years ago for a machine that had only half a megabyte. If you can do a proper season for most leagues in the world on an amiga, you can easily do this for a PS2,XBOX and definately a PC.
The training system is the sort of thing you got on 8 bit computers. compared to the likes of football manager or cm4 , it is not even worth comparing.
PES 5 problems:
1) Stadiums with no fans. (even for the pc version, surely they could have an option for those with more powerful computers to have fans)
2) Poor commentary.
3) Biased refs who don't even book cpu players for slowing you down, last man tackles or pushing you off the ball, but have no problems booking you for running beside the cpu player.
4) CPU players that run as fast as you even though you have not got the ball.
5) Manual pass that is on the right hand stick but could be better implemented on the left stick just like fifa (tap pass button you get normal pass, hold pass button you power bar for manual pass)
6) Heading system where you don't even control when you jump for the ball.
7) Slide tackles where yoiu have no control on redirecting the ball (You still cannot slide tackle a through ball). Sensible Soccer and Kick off had this.
8) Goalies who cannot even throw to the nearest palyer.
9) Power bar for passes at freekicks , which doesn't even effect the power and direction.
10) Players who don't even move towards the ball, and worst case they will run away from the ball.
11) Replays are still too short on the PC or Xbox version. How hard is it to increase replay length ?
12) No control on what players attack/defend corners/freekicks. Kick off had this.
13) Throwin system that is rubbish, no control on power and most of the time direction. The cpu will often place your players as far as possible away from the thrower when attacking or defending. They should go back to the PES3 version.
14) No realtime lighting for stadiums. Michael Owen's World League Soccer 99 had this on the PS1.
15) No realtime Weather for stadiums (it starts to rain, it stops raining, sun sets and floodlights are turned on). Michael Owen's World League Soccer 99 had this on the PS1.
16) No 360 degree rotation for freekicks.
17) Penalties are still poor, no control on power, run up or even curl. You still cannot move the goalie befor the ball is kicked.
18) Having to press super cancel all the time. Surely they should have differnet types of super cancel just like they have with crosses. 1) Default is R1 and R2. 2) Any speed button 3) Any button
19) Manual crossing is poor. No control on curl, height or even speed. Sensible soccers crossing system is far beeter than PES.
20) CPU can do 40 to 50 yard pin point headers while you have problems doing 5 yard headers.
By the way my highest score is Arsenal 13 -1 Rangers, on 6 stars 15 minute game Master League My average is 4 or 5 nil. I have not even lost or drawn a game yet.
Last of all, one of the main reasons PES has not improved by a lot, are games reviews. even with the problems mentioned above,it still gets 9 or 10 out of ten. What is the point of improving a game if even with all the problems it will always get high scores. If games reviews actually mentioned the problems and somes solutions then there is more chance of it being fixed or implemented in the next version.
PES may be the best game, but the only competition is Fifa. Personally Sports Interactive of football manager should have bought out codemasters football game and combined them. It would at least provide competition to Konami and EA.