The GAMESCOM Thread
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Itsfootballstupid
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is the rightstick trick working like it was before or better?
Perfectstrik
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its back and has some interesting functions with the dribble,cant say much more going to watch match of the day then fire up the ps3 and have my own personal match of the day on pes2010 till the early hours........
good night and sleep well your going to need your energy for october......
good night and sleep well your going to need your energy for october......
TwoPatient
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Makes sense. The d-pad isn't going to be as accurate as the analog stick. So want to see a full build. Been waiting for a awesome PES for years now!
Itsfootballstupid
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Hmm this might be too much optimism for cynics pes fans to bare, but I have a feeling this game is going to come through this year.
I think it might come through too, but perhaps not because of what perfectstrik is saying.
Sorry mate(perfectstrik) this all just sounds to damned good to be true. I hope you are right though, and I hope you will be on these boards again soon telling us "I told you so"!
Sorry mate(perfectstrik) this all just sounds to damned good to be true. I hope you are right though, and I hope you will be on these boards again soon telling us "I told you so"!
Die Hard Pes Fan
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I'm doubting this. It seems to far-fetched. But I just hope, just hope that this is true.
If we doubt him and he is right, wont we feel like dick-heads for calling him a liar and what not. But if he is wrong then wont we feel angry for him getting our hopes up and lying to us and like idiots for believing him.
Its a tough one!
If we doubt him and he is right, wont we feel like dick-heads for calling him a liar and what not. But if he is wrong then wont we feel angry for him getting our hopes up and lying to us and like idiots for believing him.
Its a tough one!
Tech_Skill
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All I say is this.
A couple of days ago PerfectStrik publically come on here and said FIFA is complete and that there is much more to be added to PES2010.
Which begs the question, what exactly is Konami hiding from ea,
The sliders which already exist in fifa 09, why would fifa go all out to copy them? Lol
Another thing which doesnt make sense is, why are Konami hiding major ideas from a game that is due out in about 6 weeks, do they really think fifa are gonna start nicking animation engines off them with 6 weeks till release. lol.
On the animations themselves, people keep referring to them as making an Amazing difference, what they fail to remember is that fifa has been using them for years, and pes was better than fifa in the past even when they were using mo-cap.
Thats because animations alone are not the be all and end all, alot depends on the engine that comes with it.
Why are konami deliberately releasing sub par builds to 'fool people' when they can release amazing builds, get feedback and make those builds even better. Why would you let people playtest something that is sooo different to the final version, commercially its useless and how can they take feedback on something that wont even represent what will be released
In regards to konami and 360 movement, I believe they told gamespot they werent intending on using it this year, then all of a sudden, they brought it out.
Konami in their press release said
"The announcement comes following Konami’s close contact with the global network of PES and football fans, who have played a key role in the development of the new game. Via forums and feedback, the PES Productions team in Tokyo has canvassed opinion on elements fans hoped to see included in PES 2010, and 360-degree control was part of the long list"
So it seems it was added due to fan demand (eg, when pes fans found out that fifa had it), nothing regarding it being tested for years.
A couple of days ago PerfectStrik publically come on here and said FIFA is complete and that there is much more to be added to PES2010.
Which begs the question, what exactly is Konami hiding from ea,
The sliders which already exist in fifa 09, why would fifa go all out to copy them? Lol
Another thing which doesnt make sense is, why are Konami hiding major ideas from a game that is due out in about 6 weeks, do they really think fifa are gonna start nicking animation engines off them with 6 weeks till release. lol.
On the animations themselves, people keep referring to them as making an Amazing difference, what they fail to remember is that fifa has been using them for years, and pes was better than fifa in the past even when they were using mo-cap.
Thats because animations alone are not the be all and end all, alot depends on the engine that comes with it.
Why are konami deliberately releasing sub par builds to 'fool people' when they can release amazing builds, get feedback and make those builds even better. Why would you let people playtest something that is sooo different to the final version, commercially its useless and how can they take feedback on something that wont even represent what will be released
In regards to konami and 360 movement, I believe they told gamespot they werent intending on using it this year, then all of a sudden, they brought it out.
Konami in their press release said
"The announcement comes following Konami’s close contact with the global network of PES and football fans, who have played a key role in the development of the new game. Via forums and feedback, the PES Productions team in Tokyo has canvassed opinion on elements fans hoped to see included in PES 2010, and 360-degree control was part of the long list"
So it seems it was added due to fan demand (eg, when pes fans found out that fifa had it), nothing regarding it being tested for years.
:jack:
Itsfootballstupid
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We can't deny that the game is very promising, the graphics alone is a testimony to the improvement of this year's version.
I mean Konami provided us with a authentic football in previous consoles Its possible that they have finally found their rhythm in the nextgen consoles to create the realistic football sim that we know that they are fully capable of doing .
Oh, 360 movement was fully intended to be in PES2010 don't worry about that!
I can't possibly say anything else regards what perfectstrik has said, but 360 movement was in from day one of development. There are folk who knew about that a long time ago trust me.
iosonocanadese
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Well, this is quite precious... Tech Skill in fact stalks and trolls all the Pro Evo forums. As if just doing it on this one wasn't enough of a waste of time...
Perfectstrik, speaking perfectly honestly it seems a bit outlandish and I don't want to get my hopes up cause I'd be very, very disappointed, but I hope you're right, and thank you for the info.
Perfectstrik, speaking perfectly honestly it seems a bit outlandish and I don't want to get my hopes up cause I'd be very, very disappointed, but I hope you're right, and thank you for the info.
proevofan88
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Perfectstrike
1- You are getting a lot of peoples hopes up and there might even be tears if what you say is not true.
2- The 'WENB' situation makes sense. Adam actually got in trouble for the excessive hinting towards '360'.
3- No disrespect towards you: I do believe we will get a very good game this year but your description really makes it sound 'out-of-this-world'.
1- You are getting a lot of peoples hopes up and there might even be tears if what you say is not true.
2- The 'WENB' situation makes sense. Adam actually got in trouble for the excessive hinting towards '360'.
3- No disrespect towards you: I do believe we will get a very good game this year but your description really makes it sound 'out-of-this-world'.
iosonocanadese
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Thinking about it, it's becoming a bit more believable. FIFA since 2007 has been a Pro Evo ripoff, all its 'innovations' have been present in ISS/PES since the early days of the series. This is quite common knowledge, everyone I know who's played games in both franchises has said the same thing. Admittedly, FIFA have since stolen the advantage because they improved other aspects as well. It does make sense that because of FIFA's penchant for poaching (zomg alliteration) PES's innovations and claiming them for themselves, the PES team would take more care to guard their secrets. In a week or two it'll be too late for the FIFA team to steal from PES without pushing back their release date.
proevofan88
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@Tech_bitch
You are a big fucking piece of shit.
A guy who supposedly played the game comes on here and gives people all this positive news and you make a new thread just in case hes lying to make a fool of him. All because he has POSITIVE news....
Wtf is your problem man? Do you not have a fucking life?
You know damn well you hope that none of that is true, his posts about PES2010. ( idc if you say that you want it be true ).
@Byondthought
Are you gonna lick TECH_Bitches ass clean in this thread? Everytime tech posts you QUOTE him and AGREE with him.
Do you have a mind of your own?
You are a big fucking piece of shit.
A guy who supposedly played the game comes on here and gives people all this positive news and you make a new thread just in case hes lying to make a fool of him. All because he has POSITIVE news....
Wtf is your problem man? Do you not have a fucking life?
You know damn well you hope that none of that is true, his posts about PES2010. ( idc if you say that you want it be true ).
@Byondthought
Are you gonna lick TECH_Bitches ass clean in this thread? Everytime tech posts you QUOTE him and AGREE with him.
Do you have a mind of your own?
From Suff on WENb in regards to what perfectstrik has posted today...
"Just to calm things down whilst adam is away on vacation. This post is highly exagerated....
Its simple, videos will not do PES or even FIFA very much justice. I think FIFA shines more in videos because it has as rediculous amount of animation and they have a huge motion capture library that get expanded every year. I believe they only use under 5% of the library per game. Then again EA have been in motion capture business for years.
PES 2010 is a good game and animations have been expanded with the motion capture, but they arent in the same league as FIFA. Konami have done alot since then and provided a polished game which looks incredible and plays good. Have they done enough to keep the PES fans happy... only time will tell.
That post above is a massive exageration. Konami dont trust WENB? Then why would they give Adam code.
In the next few weeks much more will become clear especially with demo's coming out over the next month or so. A FIFA demo will hit towards mid sept and then a PES one that i predict will be available early october."
Over to you pefectstrik...
"Just to calm things down whilst adam is away on vacation. This post is highly exagerated....
Its simple, videos will not do PES or even FIFA very much justice. I think FIFA shines more in videos because it has as rediculous amount of animation and they have a huge motion capture library that get expanded every year. I believe they only use under 5% of the library per game. Then again EA have been in motion capture business for years.
PES 2010 is a good game and animations have been expanded with the motion capture, but they arent in the same league as FIFA. Konami have done alot since then and provided a polished game which looks incredible and plays good. Have they done enough to keep the PES fans happy... only time will tell.
That post above is a massive exageration. Konami dont trust WENB? Then why would they give Adam code.
In the next few weeks much more will become clear especially with demo's coming out over the next month or so. A FIFA demo will hit towards mid sept and then a PES one that i predict will be available early october."
Over to you pefectstrik...
Ultimate-Gooner
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Now that's a surprise......not.
It was a blatant nonsense, I can't believe some of you actually believed him.
shankly is god
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ok....your opinion kid not fact
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