To the complainers, take a look at this...

[Sabatasso]

I don't get why you're after proof. It's not like it's a fucking hassle for you to move a 1.0 exe file into the directory and double click it. And there is the proof, all you want.

I don't think it should be needed to bring proof for something that obvious, but then again, it might be that 1.01 only removes midfield action on my version of the game. No, really, I expect the game to behave quite the same for everyone. And 1.01 has no midfield action, the area is empty save the retreating defenders that keeps backing into their own 6 yard box. All games becomes a contest of counters, and hardly no build up play at all.

That does not happen in 1.0 on my PC, so I expect the same results on yours. I'm sorry if that seems outrageous to you.

 

[baangus]

I don't get why you're after proof. It's not like it's a fucking hassle for you to move a 1.0 exe file into the directory and double click it. And there is the proof, all you want.

Man, some people just like to argue is all, lol. It's pretty clear to me when reading posts on the different PES forums that you're correct, and that Konami compromised the overall gameplay with the 1.01 patch. But anybody who is actually interested in trying it will, the rest will just argue because that's all they're reallly interested in.

 

[stingo]

I don't get why you're after proof. It's not like it's a fucking hassle for you to move a 1.0 exe file into the directory and double click it. And there is the proof, all you want.

I don't think it should be needed to bring proof for something that obvious, but then again, it might be that 1.01 only removes midfield action on my version of the game. No, really, I expect the game to behave quite the same for everyone. And 1.01 has no midfield action, the area is empty save the retreating defenders that keeps backing into their own 6 yard box. All games becomes a contest of counters, and hardly no build up play at all.

That does not happen in 1.0 on my PC, so I expect the same results on yours. I'm sorry if that seems outrageous to you.

Of course I did try 1.00 what makes you think I did not. I see what you mean by defenders falling back too far. Instead they should move forward and leave attackers offside and then the midfield is kind of empty because of that bug. I sort of solved this issue by moving my attackers outside the box on the schema (unlike how I played pes2011). This also makes through balls work better and midfield is not empty. Now I wonder if it is indeed not an issue in 1.00 and not just that you changed something else and it produced this effect.

Ok. I will test for this particular bug! I will put my forwards very close to the AI goals on the tactical schema and make a gap between my defense and attack as big as possible. I will play on both versions under exactly same conditions and compare. According to your claims AI defenders will not fall back as far on 1.00 as on 1.01 but rather push my attackers closer to the mid fields to stay onside. I do not believe this and I will disband this myth like I did with shooting testing. Lets see.

 

[abu97]

Whenever i use sliders in patch 1.01, they come to no avail. i used all out defence but i kept on seeing my striker in his own box so i had no front men apart from osman and shimizu who ere near the centre circle so i had to score from counters meaning sliders and tactis don't work. don't know about you though.

Stingo, do you think the shooting is the same in both patches?

 

[Sabatasso]

I think the shooting is more or less the same in both 1.0 and 1.01 abu97. Some say shots are even more directed at the keeper in 1.01, but I think they are pretty much that in 1.0 as well. I don't worry too much about it, tbh.

And I haven't changed anything but the exe file stingo, I've changed a few sliders and formation for Spurs, Barcelona and Real Madrid. But strikers are inside the box on the tactical map, and every other team are with default tactics.

 

[abu97]

sabatsso, shooting does feel different - go to 1.01 free training and finesse shots actually go wide orstaright down the middle and it's the same for lobs. try this on 1.00 and everyone has precise aim for the corner and it just feels great. shooting is also less floaty and more heavier

 

[Sabatasso]

As I said, abu97, I don't worry about it.

BTW, if you use 1.01 (PC) you can use yair and jenkeys mods to make shooting perfect. Too bad the midfield and defense lines are so broken in that version...

 

[Matt10]

1.0 Doesn't change the midfield, there is still no battle. No pressure, easy to pass. It was the whole point of wanting someone to edit the gameplay (pC version), and since then it never really got close.

I'm not looking forward to any patch from Konami - I just need someone to release a global editor so one of the values that is preventing there to be a midfield battle, can be changed.

 

[mahanddeem]

I will make a poll in a new thread ....

 

[Sabatasso]

1.0 Doesn't change the midfield, there is still no battle. No pressure, easy to pass. It was the whole point of wanting someone to edit the gameplay (pC version), and since then it never really got close.

I'm not looking forward to any patch from Konami - I just need someone to release a global editor so one of the values that is preventing there to be a midfield battle, can be changed.

What difficulty are you playing?
I have midfield battle up my ears at Superstar and 1.0. It's almost too much, especially in BAL. Playing as CM I have to rely on one-touch passes or else I'm swarmed hehe.

I don't get how a game can be so different from user to user. I guess different eyes notice different things, but for observations to be so opposite to each other the game simply have to act differently on different machines.

What system are you playing on? (PC, PS3 etc)

 

[techboy11]

1.0 Doesn't change the midfield, there is still no battle. No pressure, easy to pass. It was the whole point of wanting someone to edit the gameplay (pC version), and since then it never really got close.

I'm not looking forward to any patch from Konami - I just need someone to release a global editor so one of the values that is preventing there to be a midfield battle, can be changed.

LOL, you want midfield battles! Try playing Master League, Top Player, -1 gamespeed against Chelsea like I did last night, that game was brutal in the middle of the park! Pre-patch of course.

 

[Jansen007]

Maybe a stupid question but after reading most of this thread didn't see anything abou it. So is it a problem when you get back to version 1.0 with an option file who is saved on 1.1?!

Cause I also notice a lot of change on ps3 and doesn't matter on what difficulty I play it feels the same and with less "realism" in it. A lot of things gone worse since the update IMO

For instance defence of cpu seems far way back at their own box version 1.01. I have proof of a brilliant pass from the back over the defence to my right wing ending up in a goal at version 1.0. This cannot be done anymore in the latest update!

 

[Sabatasso]

On PC, at least, you can use the same edit.bin and option file with both versions. It's the DLC download that changes stuff that has to do with edits, so as long as you keep the DLC, you should be alright regardless of what version you play.

 

[Jansen007]

On PC, at least, you can use the same edit.bin and option file with both versions. It's the DLC download that changes stuff that has to do with edits, so as long as you keep the DLC, you should be alright regardless of what version you play.

Okay thanks, so I'm on PS3 and still want to use the same edit file and if I understand because it's just an extra content pack update it shouldn't lead to problems if I go back to version 1.0 with the same option file?

Anyway will try and see for myself. Will make sure to copy my edit file on usb just in case