What they did to Juventus is...

[0zz]

I understand, that things are not goin' well for Juve at the moment , but FFS why Konami had to downgrade all the players??? There's absolutely not a single player with decent speed, even Giovinco is like shit. 1st touch is almost gone, passing never been worse. Teamwork...what teamwork??? I understand why Amauri is bad, cause he forgot how to play football. I'm sure there will be no stats drop for AC Milan after yesterday's beating, also Real Madrid players will even get better that they were before last Lyon game. I just don't understand this treatment.:realmad:

 

[LUCAPLAYER]

I understand, that things are not goin' well for Juve at the moment , but FFS why Konami had to downgrade all the players??? There's absolutely not a single player with decent speed, even Giovinco is like shit. 1st touch is almost gone, passing never been worse. Teamwork...what teamwork??? I understand why Amauri is bad, cause he forgot how to play football. I'm sure there will be no stats drop for AC Milan after yesterday's beating, also Real Madrid players will even get better that they were before last Lyon game. I just don't understand this treatment.:realmad:

Because juve deserves shit, it's shit itself

 

[Blaz00r]

Because juve deserves shit, it's shit itself

Fuck off :jack:

I totally agree with you, they made Juve a shitty team, Giovinco with a speed of 77, Diego with 78, and some more made up stats, what the fuck?

 

[DIECI]

thats why I made the thread about reducing Reals stats since they're shit as well!

How realistic is PES? YOu think that someone could take Lyon and beat Real on PES? right! if the person using Real knew what they wre doing it would be a beatdown!

 

[Sabatasso]

Juve has been poor over a long period, if Real Madrid lose an important game it can easily be explained in the "pes universe" with the form arrows. In juve's case, that's a bit harder... hence the nerf.

 

[LUCAPLAYER]

Fuck off :jack:

I totally agree with you, they made Juve a shitty team, Giovinco with a speed of 77, Diego with 78, and some more made up stats, what the fuck?

They should have taken juve out of pes2010, because it's a third division club. They have stolen championship for ages. it's a shame!
juve merda.

 

[0zz]

Juve:
National titles

* Italian Football Championship / Serie A: 27[25]

1905, 1925–26,[62] 1930–31, 1931–32, 1932–33, 1933–34, 1934–35, 1949–50, 1951–52, 1957–58, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1966–67; 1971–72, 1972–73, 1974–75, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1994–95, 1996–97, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03

* Runners-up (20): 1903; 1904; 1906; 1937–38; 1945–46; 1946–47; 1952–53; 1953–54; 1962–63; 1973–74; 1975–76; 1979–80; 1982–83; 1986–87; 1991–92; 1993–94; 1995–96; 1999–00; 2000–01; 2008–09

* Coppa Italia: 9[55]

1937–38, 1941–42, 1958–59, 1959–60, 1964–65, 1978–79, 1982–83, 1989–90, 1994–95

* Runners-up (4): 1972–73; 1991–92; 2001–02; 2003–04

* Supercoppa Italiana: 4[63]

1995, 1997, 2002, 2003

* Runners-up (3): 1990; 1998; 2005

* Serie B: 1[64]

2006–07

* Runners-up (0): none

[edit] European titles

* UEFA Champions League (former European Cup): 2[65][66]

1984–85, 1995–96

* Runners-up (5): 1972–73; 1982–83; 1996–97; 1997–98; 2002–03

* UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1[67]

1983–84

* Runners-up (0): none

* UEFA Cup: 3[68][69]

1976–77, 1989–90, 1992–93

* Runner-up (1): 1994–95

* UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1[9][70][71]

1999

* Runners-up (0): none

* UEFA Super Cup: 2[72][73]

1984, 1996

* Runners-up (0): none

[edit] World-wide titles

* Intercontinental Cup: 2[54][74]

1985, 1996

* Runners-up (1): 1973

while AS Roma:
Serie A:

* Winners (3): 1941–42; 1982–83; 2000–01
* Runners-up (10): 1930–31; 1935–36; 1980–81; 1983–84; 1985–86; 2001–02; 2003–04; 2005–06; 2006–07; 2007–08

Coppa Italia:

* Winners (9): 1963–64; 1968–69; 1979–80; 1980–81; 1983–84; 1985–86; 1990–91; 2006–07; 2007–08

* Runners-up (6): 1936–37; 1940–41; 1992–93; 2002–03; 2004–05; 2005–06

Supercoppa Italiana:

* Winners (2): 2001; 2007
* Runners-up (3): 1991; 2006; 2008

[edit] European titles

European Cup/ UEFA Champions League:

* Runners-up (1): 1983–84

UEFA Cup/ UEFA Europa League:

* Runners-up (1): 1990-91

Inter-Cities Fairs Cup:

* Winners (1): 1960–61


Tell me now which club is third division? Inter Cities Cup...hahahahaha!!!

 

[commandos]

Well at the moment they don't deserve better stats. Real got beaten by Lyon, but don't forget they are 1. in Primera and they have good chances to win the title.
The same thing for Milan, 4 points can be restored.
Juve probably won't play CL next year, so you should expect stats like that in pes 2011 too.

 

[LUCAPLAYER]

Juve:
National titles

* Italian Football Championship / Serie A: 27[25]

1905, 1925–26,[62] 1930–31, 1931–32, 1932–33, 1933–34, 1934–35, 1949–50, 1951–52, 1957–58, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1966–67; 1971–72, 1972–73, 1974–75, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1994–95, 1996–97, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03

* Runners-up (20): 1903; 1904; 1906; 1937–38; 1945–46; 1946–47; 1952–53; 1953–54; 1962–63; 1973–74; 1975–76; 1979–80; 1982–83; 1986–87; 1991–92; 1993–94; 1995–96; 1999–00; 2000–01; 2008–09

* Coppa Italia: 9[55]

1937–38, 1941–42, 1958–59, 1959–60, 1964–65, 1978–79, 1982–83, 1989–90, 1994–95

* Runners-up (4): 1972–73; 1991–92; 2001–02; 2003–04

* Supercoppa Italiana: 4[63]

1995, 1997, 2002, 2003

* Runners-up (3): 1990; 1998; 2005

* Serie B: 1[64]

2006–07

* Runners-up (0): none

[edit] European titles

* UEFA Champions League (former European Cup): 2[65][66]

1984–85, 1995–96

* Runners-up (5): 1972–73; 1982–83; 1996–97; 1997–98; 2002–03

* UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1[67]

1983–84

* Runners-up (0): none

* UEFA Cup: 3[68][69]

1976–77, 1989–90, 1992–93

* Runner-up (1): 1994–95

* UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1[9][70][71]

1999

* Runners-up (0): none

* UEFA Super Cup: 2[72][73]

1984, 1996

* Runners-up (0): none

[edit] World-wide titles

* Intercontinental Cup: 2[54][74]

1985, 1996

* Runners-up (1): 1973

while AS Roma:
Serie A:

* Winners (3): 1941–42; 1982–83; 2000–01
* Runners-up (10): 1930–31; 1935–36; 1980–81; 1983–84; 1985–86; 2001–02; 2003–04; 2005–06; 2006–07; 2007–08

Coppa Italia:

* Winners (9): 1963–64; 1968–69; 1979–80; 1980–81; 1983–84; 1985–86; 1990–91; 2006–07; 2007–08

* Runners-up (6): 1936–37; 1940–41; 1992–93; 2002–03; 2004–05; 2005–06

Supercoppa Italiana:

* Winners (2): 2001; 2007
* Runners-up (3): 1991; 2006; 2008

[edit] European titles

European Cup/ UEFA Champions League:

* Runners-up (1): 1983–84

UEFA Cup/ UEFA Europa League:

* Runners-up (1): 1990-91

Inter-Cities Fairs Cup:

* Winners (1): 1960–61


Tell me now which club is third division? Inter Cities Cup...hahahahaha!!!

Juventus, 100 years of history of doping and bribe referee. I see you like teams who buy matches. You are a friend of Moggi, Giraudo, Bettega...italian football mafia along with milan.
Why do you ignore this documented fact?
Go to www.antijuve.com and get some information...

As long as i'm concerned the topic iuve ends here

 

[LUCAPLAYER]

Juventus, 100 years of history of doping and bribe referee. I see you like teams who buy matches. You are a friend of Moggi, Giraudo, Bettega...italian football mafia along with milan.
Why do you ignore this documented fact?
Go to www.antijuve.com and get some information...

As long as i'm concerned the topic iuve ends here

Sorry, i forgot to tell you that the inter-city cup is the former Uefa cup, but maybe, you didn't know it. After all almost all juve supporters don't know a shit about soccer

 

[99er]

The current team of Juve is not that good than many people think. The Downgrading is absolutely correct.

 

[0zz]

1.I'm a friend of mafia.
2. People hate Juve cause it's most sucessful club in italian history.
3.It was not my intention to abuse one another, but discuss the drop of stats, but some of rednecks just cannot understand it.

 

[shaun7]

Well at the moment they don't deserve better stats. Real got beaten by Lyon, but don't forget they are 1. in Primera and they have good chances to win the title.
The same thing for Milan, 4 points can be restored.
Juve probably won't play CL next year, so you should expect stats like that in pes 2011 too.

Don't be so sure.
What Juve lacks is teamwork (but it got better with this new coach).
But how come Giovinco is only 77 in speed when he's one of the fastest players in serie A?
All konami needed to downgrade in Juve stats were teamwork and less speed but not for all players. But teamwork is what Juve were lacking.
Oh and for all anti juve fans, pls admit the truth. No need to show anger towards Juve.

LUCAPLAYER: You are the clearest example of a kid who won't admit and who has hatred towards Juve.
Also get your facts right. Bettega wasn't involved.
Oh and all this crap you talked about is NOT (UP TO THIS DAY) PROVED. It's not. So don't come here trying to make an anti juve argument because your argument is just not proved. You have nothing to base your argument on.
Maybe Inter did all that? Who knows. You can't talk.

 

[LUCAPLAYER]

Don't be so sure.
What Juve lacks is teamwork (but it got better with this new coach).
But how come Giovinco is only 77 in speed when he's one of the fastest players in serie A?
All konami needed to downgrade in Juve stats were teamwork and less speed but not for all players. But teamwork is what Juve were lacking.
Oh and for all anti juve fans, pls admit the truth. No need to show anger towards Juve.

LUCAPLAYER: You are the clearest example of a kid who won't admit and who has hatred towards Juve.
Also get your facts right. Bettega wasn't involved.
Oh and all this crap you talked about is NOT (UP TO THIS DAY) PROVED. It's not. So don't come here trying to make an anti juve argument because your argument is just not proved. You have nothing to base your argument on.
Maybe Inter did all that? Who knows. You can't talk.

Where were you 3 yers ago when juve was sent to SERIE B because of bribery?? moggi took 1 year and 6 month of prison. There is no prove????? There are hours of telephone conversations recorded between moggi and the referees. I've heard them myself, they sent it on a docu-film on tv in Italy. it's a shame, but you as a juve supporter won't ever admit it.
i'm not a kid, maybe i could be your father, even if i know that if i had a son he would never been juventino

 

[DIECI]

Juve:
National titles

* Italian Football Championship / Serie A: 27[25]

1905, 1925–26,[62] 1930–31, 1931–32, 1932–33, 1933–34, 1934–35, 1949–50, 1951–52, 1957–58, 1959–60, 1960–61, 1966–67; 1971–72, 1972–73, 1974–75, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1981–82, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1994–95, 1996–97, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03

* Runners-up (20): 1903; 1904; 1906; 1937–38; 1945–46; 1946–47; 1952–53; 1953–54; 1962–63; 1973–74; 1975–76; 1979–80; 1982–83; 1986–87; 1991–92; 1993–94; 1995–96; 1999–00; 2000–01; 2008–09

* Coppa Italia: 9[55]

1937–38, 1941–42, 1958–59, 1959–60, 1964–65, 1978–79, 1982–83, 1989–90, 1994–95

* Runners-up (4): 1972–73; 1991–92; 2001–02; 2003–04

* Supercoppa Italiana: 4[63]

1995, 1997, 2002, 2003

* Runners-up (3): 1990; 1998; 2005

* Serie B: 1[64]

2006–07

* Runners-up (0): none

[edit] European titles

* UEFA Champions League (former European Cup): 2[65][66]

1984–85, 1995–96

* Runners-up (5): 1972–73; 1982–83; 1996–97; 1997–98; 2002–03

* UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1[67]

1983–84

* Runners-up (0): none

* UEFA Cup: 3[68][69]

1976–77, 1989–90, 1992–93

* Runner-up (1): 1994–95

* UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1[9][70][71]

1999

* Runners-up (0): none

* UEFA Super Cup: 2[72][73]

1984, 1996

* Runners-up (0): none

[edit] World-wide titles

* Intercontinental Cup: 2[54][74]

1985, 1996

* Runners-up (1): 1973

while AS Roma:
Serie A:

* Winners (3): 1941–42; 1982–83; 2000–01
* Runners-up (10): 1930–31; 1935–36; 1980–81; 1983–84; 1985–86; 2001–02; 2003–04; 2005–06; 2006–07; 2007–08

Coppa Italia:

* Winners (9): 1963–64; 1968–69; 1979–80; 1980–81; 1983–84; 1985–86; 1990–91; 2006–07; 2007–08

* Runners-up (6): 1936–37; 1940–41; 1992–93; 2002–03; 2004–05; 2005–06

Supercoppa Italiana:

* Winners (2): 2001; 2007
* Runners-up (3): 1991; 2006; 2008

[edit] European titles

European Cup/ UEFA Champions League:

* Runners-up (1): 1983–84

UEFA Cup/ UEFA Europa League:

* Runners-up (1): 1990-91

Inter-Cities Fairs Cup:

* Winners (1): 1960–61


Tell me now which club is third division? Inter Cities Cup...hahahahaha!!!

PAWNED! :shocking:

 

[0zz]

Where were you 3 yers ago when juve was sent to SERIE B because of bribery?? moggi took 1 year and 6 month of prison. There is no prove????? There are hours of telephone conversations recorded between moggi and the referees. I've heard them myself, they sent it on a docu-film on tv in Italy. it's a shame, but you as a juve supporter won't ever admit it.
i'm not a kid, maybe i could be your father, even if i know that if i had a son he would never been juventino

Listen you fuckin' brainless idiot. I'm not here to discuss calciopoli or your problems with having son (lack of dick could be the reason). I started this thread because I disagree with droping stats of Juve players.If you want to express your opinions about Juve, just start a thread about how you hate it, and how would you like to suck Totti's cock. I wanted to be polite and agreed that I'm mafia supporter, I also said that this thread is about stats not likes/dislikes, but you left me no choice, I had to say what I said.

 

[DIECI]

I think Konami should review all the teams and adjust some stats. Juve was fine the way they were, I don't know why they dropped their stats, they are really slow now but whatever, Konami knows best I guess LOL......

Teams that need to be reviewed and stats/ability reduced : Real Madrid, Brazil, Argentina, England

Teams that need to be reviewed and stats/ability increased : Lyon, Italy, Arsenal

These are the ones that come to mind, I'm sure there are other teams that need adjustments in speed and ability! Playing against Argentina with Messi, Aguero and Tevez up front is like chasing mice around the field, simply fast as hell, even worst than Brazil if their arrows are orange or red. Same with England and ofcourse we all know about Real Madrid.

 

[LUCAPLAYER]

Listen you fuckin' brainless idiot. I'm not here to discuss calciopoli or your problems with having son (lack of dick could be the reason). I started this thread because I disagree with droping stats of Juve players.If you want to express your opinions about Juve, just start a thread about how you hate it, and how would you like to suck Totti's cock. I wanted to be polite and agreed that I'm mafia supporter, I also said that this thread is about stats not likes/dislikes, but you left me no choice, I had to say what I said.

OK, i know, when you don't have arguments you start insulting. You had no choice, especially when you are not in front of people...

 

[DIECI]

OK, i know, when you don't have arguments you start insulting. You had no choice, especially when you are not in front of people...

why are you guys even arguing about calciopoli? All big teams in all major leagues do what what Juve did to a certain degree, they were just ratted out by Inter Management.

 

[Blaz00r]

Juventus, 100 years of history of doping and bribe referee. I see you like teams who buy matches. You are a friend of Moggi, Giraudo, Bettega...italian football mafia along with milan.
Why do you ignore this documented fact?
Go to www.antijuve.com and get some information...

As long as i'm concerned the topic iuve ends here

Go get your facts right, Juve were never accused of buying matches (actually, they were acquitted of buying matches), all Moggi did is to influence the guy who sets referees for matches (i.e choosing referee X over referee Y for Juve matches). Is it forbidden? YES IT IS, is it that serious like stupid people like you that think Juve bought matches made it? NO IT ISN'T, so GTFO.

Well at the moment they don't deserve better stats. Real got beaten by Lyon, but don't forget they are 1. in Primera and they have good chances to win the title.
The same thing for Milan, 4 points can be restored.
Juve probably won't play CL next year, so you should expect stats like that in pes 2011 too.

They don't deserve better stats and don't deserve worse stats either.

Milan can restore the 4 (7 after tonight) points gap? LOL, yeah right, keep on dreaming, Inter have the title from day 1.

And about Juve not playing CL next year - lol, are you fucking kidding me? Who's gonna take their spot? Palermo? Sampdoria? Give me a break...