Tech_Skill
Registered User
The plan here is for everyone to chip in, then we copy and paste all the good stuff into one thread and then put it in feedback. It needs to be done soon if there is any hope in hell Konami will take notice.
I'll start with a few basic ones.....
Goalkeeping Errors: Game-breaking in my view. For this simple reason, what if you've spent hours on Master League and you finally get to the champions league final after years of building a squad, you are in the final, and then when the CPU gets a one on one, the goalkeeper dives out of the way of the striker without the striker even taking a shot, thus allowing the striker an open goal? This is just totally unacceptable in my view and was never an issue in older Pes's and therefore needs correcting.
AI issues: This has been well documented, but the following needs changing asap.
-The game speed being ramped up to something like +20 every time the CPU decides it needs to score.
-Player Switching not working when the CPU decides it needs to score
-Defenders suddenly moving out of position when the CPU decides it needs to score.
-Defenders standing still/not tackling
-Scripted games where is obvious to the gamer after about 2 mins that the CPU is going to win/draw, you can usually tell when world class players suddenly miss open goals and cant hit the target from half a yard or when defenders suddenly move well out of position even when you set the tactics to full defense.
Above all, the number one flaw in this game AI wise in my opinion is that the CPU AI does not respect player stats, the player stats count more for the human player, not the CPU AI, which is why the CPU can make Zimbabwe's 3rd choice striker pull off Marco Van Basten like volleys and Ronaldinho like through passes. Its so simple, make the player stats count for the CPU and you have a game which is more balanced.
Throughballs are dreadful in this game, they are so damn accurate its insane and if they are not accurate, the CPU AI players will stand still or let the ball go through them to allow my striker in on goal, its just ridiculous. The throughballs need to be more in line with the new passing system, more control/variety needs to be given to the user, they need to be more errored.
Passing still needs more error in it.
The Shooting is crap when using the /RT controls to place the finish, I've lost count of how many times the ball has ballooned over the bar or trickled right to the keeper or the player has tried to slide tackle the ball into the goal, this was fine on pes6, why is it so crap now.
When the goal keeper takes a goal kick, players cannot fight to head the ball, two players will stand still waiting to head the ball and the taller player nearly always wins the header, this is a joke, in fifa, you can jossle and fight for the right to head the ball away.
Auto Switching was fine in older pes's, why ruin it, its terrible, go back to the 'manual' auto switching of PES on PS2 when I can auto switch properly.
Corner Kicks are a waste of time. The auto switching is so flawed if you need to switch players it will switch to the wrong one allowing a free header for the CPU. Also the CPU insists on putting your tiniest players in the box to defend a corner, so Xavi and Iniesta will be defending corner kicks for you against the likes of Drogba. In PES 2012 we must be able to choose who can defend against corners.
Throws in are embarrassing. You cant auto switch before the throw in is taken. Also the CPU moves you players very far away from its players, so it will always be able to retain the ball from a throw in. The CPU will also take advantage of this by long throwing the ball into the box to a striker who will turn the defender and get a free shot at goal, because I cant auto switch before the throw is taken, I cant mark the striker, even tho I know what is going to happen.
Master League is scripted to high heaven, total waste of time and so predictable.
-Before big games, there is always nearly an international game which zaps your players and makes them weak, the CPU players stamina is 100% fine, it never affects them. In La Liga, you always seem to play Real Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia or Athletico in about the 4th/5th game of the season, which is just after an international game.
-As Barcelona, Messi was getting injured constantly before key games, infact he got injured about 5 times in the 1st half of the season making him miss at least 3 critical games. Obviously scripted, I started another Master League season with Barca to test something, Messi got injured in ''training'' for 2 weeks, just before the start of the season.....scripted.
- Games and competitions are scripted. I lose to inter at home thanks to the goalkeeper failing to come out to handle an overhit pass the by the CPU, infact he moved backwards to allow Milto to get to it, I lose 1-0 against 10 men, lose the next CL game thanks to more ridiculous goals. The CPU realizes Barca wont qualify for next round, so I beat inter 3-0 at San Siro and Beat Galatasary 4-0 away from home.........scripted.
- If you set Transfer activity to Normal, the transfers are insane, Sneijder moving to Valencia in January, Coutinho to Zaragoza, and about 1 million players moved clubs in a 2 week period, totally unrealistic, again, never was an issue in older PES's
-If you don't play Messi etc for one game, he gets unhappy with the club for lack of playing time.
-When you go into Negotiations and look for a player to buy, if you keep scrolling through their player profile using LB/RB the scouting information keeps changing and is totally retarded. If if you scroll through Cristiano Ronaldo's profile several times you will see information like ''Would make a great Utility Player''.
-Stevan Jovetic will be refused a move to Barcelona, then will sign for Sevilla instead.
Player ratings are shit, you score 4 goals with a player and get a 6.5/7.0 rating.
I'll start with a few basic ones.....
Goalkeeping Errors: Game-breaking in my view. For this simple reason, what if you've spent hours on Master League and you finally get to the champions league final after years of building a squad, you are in the final, and then when the CPU gets a one on one, the goalkeeper dives out of the way of the striker without the striker even taking a shot, thus allowing the striker an open goal? This is just totally unacceptable in my view and was never an issue in older Pes's and therefore needs correcting.
AI issues: This has been well documented, but the following needs changing asap.
-The game speed being ramped up to something like +20 every time the CPU decides it needs to score.
-Player Switching not working when the CPU decides it needs to score
-Defenders suddenly moving out of position when the CPU decides it needs to score.
-Defenders standing still/not tackling
-Scripted games where is obvious to the gamer after about 2 mins that the CPU is going to win/draw, you can usually tell when world class players suddenly miss open goals and cant hit the target from half a yard or when defenders suddenly move well out of position even when you set the tactics to full defense.
Above all, the number one flaw in this game AI wise in my opinion is that the CPU AI does not respect player stats, the player stats count more for the human player, not the CPU AI, which is why the CPU can make Zimbabwe's 3rd choice striker pull off Marco Van Basten like volleys and Ronaldinho like through passes. Its so simple, make the player stats count for the CPU and you have a game which is more balanced.
Throughballs are dreadful in this game, they are so damn accurate its insane and if they are not accurate, the CPU AI players will stand still or let the ball go through them to allow my striker in on goal, its just ridiculous. The throughballs need to be more in line with the new passing system, more control/variety needs to be given to the user, they need to be more errored.
Passing still needs more error in it.
The Shooting is crap when using the /RT controls to place the finish, I've lost count of how many times the ball has ballooned over the bar or trickled right to the keeper or the player has tried to slide tackle the ball into the goal, this was fine on pes6, why is it so crap now.
When the goal keeper takes a goal kick, players cannot fight to head the ball, two players will stand still waiting to head the ball and the taller player nearly always wins the header, this is a joke, in fifa, you can jossle and fight for the right to head the ball away.
Auto Switching was fine in older pes's, why ruin it, its terrible, go back to the 'manual' auto switching of PES on PS2 when I can auto switch properly.
Corner Kicks are a waste of time. The auto switching is so flawed if you need to switch players it will switch to the wrong one allowing a free header for the CPU. Also the CPU insists on putting your tiniest players in the box to defend a corner, so Xavi and Iniesta will be defending corner kicks for you against the likes of Drogba. In PES 2012 we must be able to choose who can defend against corners.
Throws in are embarrassing. You cant auto switch before the throw in is taken. Also the CPU moves you players very far away from its players, so it will always be able to retain the ball from a throw in. The CPU will also take advantage of this by long throwing the ball into the box to a striker who will turn the defender and get a free shot at goal, because I cant auto switch before the throw is taken, I cant mark the striker, even tho I know what is going to happen.
Master League is scripted to high heaven, total waste of time and so predictable.
-Before big games, there is always nearly an international game which zaps your players and makes them weak, the CPU players stamina is 100% fine, it never affects them. In La Liga, you always seem to play Real Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia or Athletico in about the 4th/5th game of the season, which is just after an international game.
-As Barcelona, Messi was getting injured constantly before key games, infact he got injured about 5 times in the 1st half of the season making him miss at least 3 critical games. Obviously scripted, I started another Master League season with Barca to test something, Messi got injured in ''training'' for 2 weeks, just before the start of the season.....scripted.
- Games and competitions are scripted. I lose to inter at home thanks to the goalkeeper failing to come out to handle an overhit pass the by the CPU, infact he moved backwards to allow Milto to get to it, I lose 1-0 against 10 men, lose the next CL game thanks to more ridiculous goals. The CPU realizes Barca wont qualify for next round, so I beat inter 3-0 at San Siro and Beat Galatasary 4-0 away from home.........scripted.
- If you set Transfer activity to Normal, the transfers are insane, Sneijder moving to Valencia in January, Coutinho to Zaragoza, and about 1 million players moved clubs in a 2 week period, totally unrealistic, again, never was an issue in older PES's
-If you don't play Messi etc for one game, he gets unhappy with the club for lack of playing time.
-When you go into Negotiations and look for a player to buy, if you keep scrolling through their player profile using LB/RB the scouting information keeps changing and is totally retarded. If if you scroll through Cristiano Ronaldo's profile several times you will see information like ''Would make a great Utility Player''.
-Stevan Jovetic will be refused a move to Barcelona, then will sign for Sevilla instead.
Player ratings are shit, you score 4 goals with a player and get a 6.5/7.0 rating.