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What you want in Pro Evo 7

Gun_Runner

100Gunz-100Clipz
I think I read August 23rd/26th but I could be in dreamland talking complete bollocks!?

Another thing that is a must, they have to make a better atmosphere for the game! I mean c'mon the crowd may aswell not be there in PES6! I keep saying that now we have next gen technology they could add a lot more-it probably gets annoying when I write it. but I do have a point... I'd love to see the homecrowd go nuts if their team scores an injury time goal or when someone exciting gets on the ball (eg. C.Ronaldo/Messi) just to add realism..

I saw a pic of some punters in a pub and its supposedly from PES 2008 so mibe if you scored an important goal it'd switch to the pub and show you them going nuts during the celebration?
 

Charlie

Registered User
Id agree with you about gettin Messi or someone on the ball who has great flair and then you can hear the crowd gettin excited as that player starts a run. It would excellent, in my opinion...
 

raffupperv12

Registered User
In My Opinion

I just want to state even though I would like to see some changes, I like to say that PES is the best football sim out there and as an ex fifa player that jump over to the good side 4 years ago, I have never regreted my devotion, that being said PES can improve on some things, Some being gameplay and Some cosmetic:
GAMEPLAY:
(1)The only really thing I think that work needs to be done on is mainly on defense, when an opponent is running down mainly on your defensive 3rd when you try and switch players sometimes it switches to some defender that has nothing to do with the play,(usually a player who is lateral to opponent or behind him never the defender that is in front, the more logical one)
(2) The closing down of opponents, again its good when on the wings but when an opponent is dribbling in the middle of the field the defense seems to open up even if they are not marking anybody??? in football the center of the field is where defense starts and is concentrated on, always pushing the play out to the wings so that the defense can use the sideline as a silent defender to push them out off for a throw in. I know what your thinking when opponents make good passes they split defenders but not what I am saying, the instances is when typically playing online and an idiot is INTER/ADRIANO, and he just runs straight through the middle of the field, it looks like moses parted the red sea, players just open up.
(3) Player attributes, make more realistic and not such an advantage, EXAMPLE ADRANO, he is not that good in real life??????
***To sum up in attack the game plays great, shooting is very realistic , I LKE********

COSMETICS (GRAPHICS):
(1) FIELD GRASS, Needs major improvement, only grass I like in the game now is REAL MADRID's stadium on Summer and Rainy, looks like a good green, all fields should be similar not same but simlar get away from that clay looking grass.(Players should be able to choose grass color and cut as well before games)
(2) LIGHTING, In some stadiums, Lighting should be improved.
(3) MORE STADIUMS, or at least a stadium builder.
(4) MORE ANIMATION off of field, 3D Security walking around field, Coaches on Sideline making commands, 3D Players warming up when you signal a substition, CROWD needs to be 3D like NCAA 2008 or MADDEN 2007. PREGAME, Players warming up in warmup suits passing ball around etc. while stadium staff set up for game.
(5) SCORING CELEBRATION, more interaction with crowd and players on bench: Have players Run to bench and get avalanched by reserves/coaching staff in track suits or player scores and can jump over billboards and jump on fence etc.
(6) HAVE REAL TIME WEATHER CHANGES, just like in MADDEN 2007 and NCAA 2008 During a match, if game is in early evening make sure that the shade shifts with the suns movement or have the stadium go from day to night during game.
(7) FANS, CREATE at least 30 differnet type of fans in 3D, Men-Women-boys-girls-Old men-young women-People who wher suits-People who were Team jerseys-People who are painted up-When cold wearing cold weatehr close etc.

OFF THE FIELD EXTRAS (Menu screen):
(1) During Loading Menu before a game,Have a Map of the country or region your playing in and Whatever team is playing away show the players getting on a bus or plane and see them make the trip and arrive and walk into the stadium while fans and celebrate or curse their arrival.
(2) After game have press conferences where you choose from predetermined answers what you want to say, it could be a coach, player etc.
(3)MASTER LEAGUE Home menu, after each game have a News Comentator showing highlight of games and goals from your league, and news of injuries and possible signings and negotiations (during transfer season) etc. all stuff that is in our football newspapers and shows
(4) When player is signed, (becuase sometimes its difficult and you have a feeling of accomplishment and joy when you finally close a sigining that you really wanted) have the player in press conference siging contract and shaking hands with President and lifting up his new clubs Jersey while photograhers flash pictures and he smiles.
(5)TRAINING, I saw someone say it on this thread and I liked it, just want to elaborate it. Have 3 day traing periods before each game and player can choose to do 1 or all 3. Maybe have like in pros, 1st day Conditioning, 2nd day Shooting, 3rd day playing. CHANGE UP training have differenet drills, Have shooting drills where they have to pass or dribble through cones or poles or in playing having small sided 4v4 or 7v7 games in reduced size fields with practice goals (in 4v4 the small nets that have no goalies, the 7v7 midsized goals tha tare portable) and field marked by cones just like in real life. Also players being injured in practice as well and not just on your team but others as well.
(6)PREASON, Have at least 4 destinations to choose where to do preseason, have the training facilities be region specific , show fans watching training sessions and wanting autographs and pics, have pre-season matches in local small stadiums.

MASTER LEAGUE:
(1) MORE SPOTS, have more spots to fill the whole 1st division and have the whole 2nd division.
(2) CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, make sure games are always @ night jsut like in real life. Also that more variety in different countries in European cup.
(3) HAVE A NEWSPAPER THAT HIGHLIGHTS YOUR LEAGUES PROGRESS

I KNOW IT SEEMED ALOT BUT JUST LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE DUALBLE TO MAKE A GREAT GAME EVEN GREATER!!!!!!!!!! just my opinion
 

raffupperv12

Registered User
I have so many things I'd like to see that I could sit and think for hours but I'm just posting them as I think and right now:

- bring back the player rating system at the end: but make it realistic
- a wider range of individual tasks you want a player to do, sort of like Footy Manager where you can tell your team to use a target man, play through a playmaker, and set specifics of where players are to run to during free kick/corner situtations.

I LIKED THE IDEA about telling players where to run on free kick and corners, but they have to be smart with that, I can see alot of clitches on the defensive side where if you had all your players run back post all defenders blindly follow leaving first post way to open, the defenders should be programmed to prioritze better (in front of the goal being the main priority and then 1st post and then 2nd post and outside the box etc.
 

Gooner10

Registered User
If they added proper crowd chants for specific teams and gave it a louder feel imagine how good it would be with surround sound!
 

Gun_Runner

100Gunz-100Clipz
I LIKED THE IDEA about telling players where to run on free kick and corners, but they have to be smart with that, I can see alot of clitches on the defensive side where if you had all your players run back post all defenders blindly follow leaving first post way to open, the defenders should be programmed to prioritze better (in front of the goal being the main priority and then 1st post and then 2nd post and outside the box etc.


yea but don't you think that would add to the part where Konami said the opposition team adapts to your tactics/formation? I mean if you were defending the freekick you could rush and and play them all offside or go man for man-or just cover a specific area (penalty spot, back post etc)
 

swift-ee

Registered User
I just want to state even though I would like to see some changes, I like to say that PES is the best football sim out there and as an ex fifa player that jump over to the good side 4 years ago, I have never regreted my devotion, that being said PES can improve on some things, Some being gameplay and Some cosmetic:
GAMEPLAY:
(1)The only really thing I think that work needs to be done on is mainly on defense, when an opponent is running down mainly on your defensive 3rd when you try and switch players sometimes it switches to some defender that has nothing to do with the play,(usually a player who is lateral to opponent or behind him never the defender that is in front, the more logical one)
(2) The closing down of opponents, again its good when on the wings but when an opponent is dribbling in the middle of the field the defense seems to open up even if they are not marking anybody??? in football the center of the field is where defense starts and is concentrated on, always pushing the play out to the wings so that the defense can use the sideline as a silent defender to push them out off for a throw in. I know what your thinking when opponents make good passes they split defenders but not what I am saying, the instances is when typically playing online and an idiot is INTER/ADRIANO, and he just runs straight through the middle of the field, it looks like moses parted the red sea, players just open up.
(3) Player attributes, make more realistic and not such an advantage, EXAMPLE ADRANO, he is not that good in real life??????
***To sum up in attack the game plays great, shooting is very realistic , I LKE********

COSMETICS (GRAPHICS):
(1) FIELD GRASS, Needs major improvement, only grass I like in the game now is REAL MADRID's stadium on Summer and Rainy, looks like a good green, all fields should be similar not same but simlar get away from that clay looking grass.(Players should be able to choose grass color and cut as well before games)
(2) LIGHTING, In some stadiums, Lighting should be improved.
(3) MORE STADIUMS, or at least a stadium builder.
(4) MORE ANIMATION off of field, 3D Security walking around field, Coaches on Sideline making commands, 3D Players warming up when you signal a substition, CROWD needs to be 3D like NCAA 2008 or MADDEN 2007. PREGAME, Players warming up in warmup suits passing ball around etc. while stadium staff set up for game.
(5) SCORING CELEBRATION, more interaction with crowd and players on bench: Have players Run to bench and get avalanched by reserves/coaching staff in track suits or player scores and can jump over billboards and jump on fence etc.
(6) HAVE REAL TIME WEATHER CHANGES, just like in MADDEN 2007 and NCAA 2008 During a match, if game is in early evening make sure that the shade shifts with the suns movement or have the stadium go from day to night during game.
(7) FANS, CREATE at least 30 differnet type of fans in 3D, Men-Women-boys-girls-Old men-young women-People who wher suits-People who were Team jerseys-People who are painted up-When cold wearing cold weatehr close etc.

OFF THE FIELD EXTRAS (Menu screen):
(1) During Loading Menu before a game,Have a Map of the country or region your playing in and Whatever team is playing away show the players getting on a bus or plane and see them make the trip and arrive and walk into the stadium while fans and celebrate or curse their arrival.
(2) After game have press conferences where you choose from predetermined answers what you want to say, it could be a coach, player etc.
(3)MASTER LEAGUE Home menu, after each game have a News Comentator showing highlight of games and goals from your league, and news of injuries and possible signings and negotiations (during transfer season) etc. all stuff that is in our football newspapers and shows
(4) When player is signed, (becuase sometimes its difficult and you have a feeling of accomplishment and joy when you finally close a sigining that you really wanted) have the player in press conference siging contract and shaking hands with President and lifting up his new clubs Jersey while photograhers flash pictures and he smiles.
(5)TRAINING, I saw someone say it on this thread and I liked it, just want to elaborate it. Have 3 day traing periods before each game and player can choose to do 1 or all 3. Maybe have like in pros, 1st day Conditioning, 2nd day Shooting, 3rd day playing. CHANGE UP training have differenet drills, Have shooting drills where they have to pass or dribble through cones or poles or in playing having small sided 4v4 or 7v7 games in reduced size fields with practice goals (in 4v4 the small nets that have no goalies, the 7v7 midsized goals tha tare portable) and field marked by cones just like in real life. Also players being injured in practice as well and not just on your team but others as well.
(6)PREASON, Have at least 4 destinations to choose where to do preseason, have the training facilities be region specific , show fans watching training sessions and wanting autographs and pics, have pre-season matches in local small stadiums.

MASTER LEAGUE:
(1) MORE SPOTS, have more spots to fill the whole 1st division and have the whole 2nd division.
(2) CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, make sure games are always @ night jsut like in real life. Also that more variety in different countries in European cup.
(3) HAVE A NEWSPAPER THAT HIGHLIGHTS YOUR LEAGUES PROGRESS

I KNOW IT SEEMED ALOT BUT JUST LITTLE THINGS THAT ARE DUALBLE TO MAKE A GREAT GAME EVEN GREATER!!!!!!!!!! just my opinion

if the new pes had all these things it would be a dream come true im sure the next gen systems can handle this but not sure bout the ps2 and xbox ; the first and second point hits the nail on the head i really hate that and i am always conceding silly goals like that i could do with players having more celebrations and more celebrations to chose from and being able to pick a certain celebration for a special match e.g derby, champs league final, the day when you can win the league if results go your way. this brings me to my second point cpu matches should correspond more to you matches typical example arsenal nd spurs drama for last champs league spot in the 05/06 season and they could show highlights at half time.
 

john4

Registered User
i think in cutscenes like when you score a goal and celebrate if its like a rival match or just late on in an important match you should be able to press lb just as the celebration starts to change it to something like charging off the field to the crowd or taking shirt off n charging round,then you get booked,people prolly think thats a dumb idea but id use it,build a bit of passion and show how important it was!

the other half of that could be when the ref calls you over fora word,if you feel hard done by and felt it was a good tackle,which happens on this game alot!!you should be able to press lb or sumthin again to mouth off and keep pushing the ref,again possibly leading to a yellow

i thought of this whilst playing tops spin coz you can overreact on that if you press lb or rb,start throwing your racket n stuff,but it has no effect on the game you dont get warnings or ought so its pretty pointless on that but in pes i think it would be good
 

ozzie66

Registered User
the reason adriano was that good was because when they made the game, he was the most dangerous striker in europe. And they did get his stats out, he is fast, he is strong and he does have the most powerful shot in europe. and on his day he is the most unplayable striker in the world. this season he was just not focused.


btw....if any changes, all it would be is better defending and goal keeping and strikers making runs and not just watching u. apart from that, its all gud.

i dont care for ascetics, i mean woopeedeedooo with all the off game animations but seriously, i always press start. i turn off intros. for me, it becomes more of an annoyance more than anything. i just wanna play the game and then press start and play my other game.
 

Barry

Registered User
First of all is the inclusion of Ghana and Ivory Coast, both now fully licensed. More interestingly, the magazine also hints that diving is now a new feature in the game! Im sure it's a feature that many will be unsure about, but if implemented well it could benefit the game moving forward. Hint to Konami: Look at how This Is Football used it. A lesson in how NOT to do it!

Along with this, another magazine has told readers of more new features coming our way. Coming from German PC magazine Gamestar, it confirms a few things the PlayStation mag spoke of including a few extras. Here is a run down:

- 3 Buttons combination to press for a dive.
- Very difficult to dive, because the referee's often give you the yellow card.
- Gameplay and Passing faster.
- Shooting is better/harder.
- No difference between PC/Xbox 360/PS3 version.
- Licenses for Fenerbace and Sao Paulo.
- No Black screen after fouls.
- Player profiles with stats.

Not 100 percent confirmed yet. Diving? :/
 

BonBon

...has worn the t-shirt!
You could kinda dive in Pes 5 and 6 by pressing r2 when a opponent was right behind you
Making it an official trick/move is a bold move,it could either fail and do shit like This Is Football version of diving or be very good and be a big pay off,knowing Konami it will be good!
 

Gun_Runner

100Gunz-100Clipz
@ ozzie66

Adriano was never the best in Europe. Henry and van Nistelrooy would have pissed all over him even when he was on form.

And that's no excuse for how good he is in PES6. He actually runs through players and knocks them down-right fair enough he's a big guy. But not big enough to knock Rio Ferdinand to his arse just by running at him.

And even if he has a great shot, from 30 yards the worlds best keepers (Casillas, Buffon etc.) shouldn't just crumble and let it go in over them.
 

zeemeister

Registered User
That Adriano shit was ridiculous I know Seabass is a Inter fan but I mean come on. Some great ideas here but it means nothing if the AI is as retarded as past pes have been. Just leave the control and see how long the com takes to score.
 

OldFirmBlue

Ibrox Veteran
Licensed teams having more than one GK Strip and the ability to chose what kit the GK wears. Also Teams to have 3 kits (if they do in real life) and also bring back the option to mix and match kits eg Home Strip with away shorts and socks.
 

Gooner10

Registered User
That Adriano shit was ridiculous I know Seabass is a Inter fan but I mean come on. Some great ideas here but it means nothing if the AI is as retarded as past pes have been. Just leave the control and see how long the com takes to score.

It's probably because he was the cover star, they thought they'd make him a lot better to make him happy. Maybe it was part of the agreement :D or he played it and said 'i'm well better than that man..c'mon dude!'...cos thats how he talks
 

Psimonius

Registered User
I would love to see 3rd kits introduced. I don't see why this would be a problem. A lot of teams have them so why not do it? It wouldn't add too much to the game size. At the very least, bring back the option to select which colour shirts/shorts/socks you want as someone just said. Choosing the GK's kit would be a bonus too. Heck! Why not let us choose what colour the ref wears too?!
 

shankly is god

Registered User
what everyone says is all top notch everything has been mention from tweaks in the gameplay to actuall addons like media attention etc, i saw a pic of outside the stadium so i hope theres now build ups on cup finals and that plus i think i read trophy celebrations are improved.
 

ozzie66

Registered User
@ ozzie66

Adriano was never the best in Europe. Henry and van Nistelrooy would have pissed all over him even when he was on form.

And that's no excuse for how good he is in PES6. He actually runs through players and knocks them down-right fair enough he's a big guy. But not big enough to knock Rio Ferdinand to his arse just by running at him.

And even if he has a great shot, from 30 yards the worlds best keepers (Casillas, Buffon etc.) shouldn't just crumble and let it go in over them.

When he first came to Inter, infact even at his Parma days, he was unplayable

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E3dOZ0FC8rc

there is him shitting on players.


now tell me his stats didnt represent how he was playing.

now recoba, recoba was way overrated.

anyways, the cheat character is Ibrahimovic,
 
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