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whats your biggest issue (with demo)

Jago-ViG

Registered User
Refs playing advantage and then not coming back to book players...

(Shooting and keepers I expect to be 'fixed' for release)
 

Sminky

Registered User
I'd plump for goalkeepers, they do seem to dive a little bit too slowly, well more of a fall over action. That said they're still a considerable improvement on previous PES'.
 

wayno83

Registered User
ball going through keepers hand as if its not there.

keepers positioning shocking why do they always stand so far out.

passing power or lack of most of the time.

when passing backwards occasionally it would do it way to soft as if you wanted to do a lay off for someone.

simple short passes that goes behind the player when its really simple to play it to feet.

playing the ball out wide again for no reason the player will just blast the pass out of play.

1 more passing thing i don't like is when your in attack and you want to pass to someone thats near you the cpu will say no im aiming for the one offside.

pk system to easy.

fk seem alot easier as well.

those stupid scissor kicks are still in the game same problem from 2011 the player doesn't know the correct time to do them.

I've changed the passing thingy from level 0-5 whatever goes to don't really see any difference.

part from all those things i'll probably still buy the game as for me personally i still find fifa unplayable.
 

ilyasmad

Registered User
1. Goalkeepers incapability to handle soft shots and deflections.

2. Passing is slightly inconsistent; annoying at times.

3. Dribbling and close control to be toned down. Does not feel right when slow defenders have such good close control with r2. Dribbling feels like there is a string attached to his foot and the ball.

4. The opposition sometimes clips/ghost through the defenders.

All could probably be solved by a community or konami patch.
 

shaun7

Registered User
I want more individuality like pes 11 on the close control. In pes 12, the close control is a bit too good and there isn't enough difference between the players. There is a difference, but not enough to justify it, if that makes sense.

The dribbling and moves and the way the players execute them, has more individuality, but the close control is an issue that needs fixing. It is better than what it was in the first demo, but I want more individuality in the close control that's for sure.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Played it a bit more and my biggest gripe is now the amount of replays in PES. Replays for anything and everything.
 

Ali

It is happening again
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the fact that a player will walk alongside the ball before trying to collect it.... even when you're controlling him. I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong, but yesterday I played a horizontal through ball to Lahm, he got near the ball, I was trying to direct him towards it, but instead he just walked alongside it and watched it go out of play. It seems like such an obvious flaw, I can't believe they haven't fixed it!
 

MozzyEng

Registered User
The micro pausing and shooting to me. I know the pausing wont be in the game. I must be missing something with the shooting
 

MysteryMan

Registered User
Too much...

- Goalkeepers / no explanation needed.

- Reverse catch up bug / completely reversed from last year this year once an attacking player goes past you YOU WILL NOT catch him EVER, even if ur defender has 99 top speed and the attacker has 70 and 70 dribble speed.

- Clips/Ghosting.

- Passing sometimes very weird, when you want to pass the ball to the player behind someone and you ramp it up to full power yet he still passes to the player between you and your target.

- Players still running on rails.

- Close control and technique way too good, and also the difference between someone with 90 or 70 Dribble acc is almost non existant.

- Similar to my point above, every other stat seems to have MUCH less difference than it did in 2011, if someone has 70 or 90 stat the difference is very small, so there is NO INVIDUALITY anymore, one of the main things that made PES so good.

- No acceleration stat, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STATS IN SOCCER. It also means that the burst of pace thingy will be only based on explosive power/agility which is WRONG because someone like Xavi has good agility but he can't burst past players, and in PES 2012 he will just like 90% of other players.
 

MikeyM24

Registered User
Played it a bit more and my biggest gripe is now the amount of replays in PES. Replays for anything and everything.

It wouldn't be so bad if you could press A to cancel them, like FIFA. Pressing start is a bit awkward.

My major issue is the lack of a closer in camera.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Aye, I agree, I'd like a closer camera angle ... I find it easier to judge dribbling with a closer camera angle
 

stottmeister

Registered User
I prefer the wider angle so as to see who's available for the pass but I see what you mean about dribbling being easier with a closer view, plus you can see the detailing better.
 

murphyr

Registered User
1. Goalkeepers - Palm too many weak shots and don't seem to have the capacity to stretch out their arms to save shots that should be within arms reach. Fail to get down to low tame shots and use legs when it would be easier to just get their body behind the ball and pick it up.

2. Too many players have the capacity to dribble well. Fine if you a top playmaker but when lumbering CB's slalom up the park like they are on ice skates it diminishes the player individuality.

3. Stuttering/micropausing (might be confined to the 360) - Players stopping/doubling back/turning when running with the ball for no reason. Heard people say that this is just a demo issue but i would be interested to know what this view is based on and whether Konami has acknowledged it and confirmed that it will not be present in the final release. The micropausing has been most prevelant for me at the point where i score a goal. There is a perceptible jar as the ball goes in.

4. Fuzzy/blurry graphics - hopefully the sharpness will be there for final release
 

JackWilshere

Registered User
Seriously wtf is up with the stamina in this game? It drains waaaaaay too fast.

I don't even sprint that much, only when I need to, yet I find that by the 60 minute mark, most of my players (including the freaking goalkeeper!!!) have 0 stamina left, their bar is completely empty.

It's a BIG issue imo, anyone else noticed it? It had better be fixed in the full game or it'll be a game breaker for sure.
 
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