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The ending is so shit. What a crap way to end - an on-rails battle! I've played about 3 games online so far, and I've had it pretty much since it came out! Not much of an online gamer these days.

I've only played one mission so far, and I did it stealthily and non-leathal. FPS. It's only 3rd person when you take cover.

I always thought Koller was more of a "gentle giant"? :) Even though Dortmund aren't in, I hope that Konami make it so you can sign players like Gotze and Kagawa for ML, and I'm not talking about silly regenerated ones from the youth teams - they should stop all that nonsense now!

They still have Falcao.

I don't want this to be a PES-less year for me. I'm optimistic of improvement.

You seem to be very positive about PES 2012. Did you like 2011? I just wonder what the general consensus is. Me and your best mate, Mak both liked PES 2011, but disliked the 2012 demo.

Do you have it yet? I bought it yesterday, played on it for a couple of hours or so. A bit trial and error for me so far. There's a lot to get my head around and it will take time for me to learn it all, that's for sure.

I think there's already a thread on this, but nevermind. I think this is one of those games that I'll wait for reviews on before I even consider purchasing it. There's quite a few "must buys" coming out in the next couple of months, and for me, this isn't one of them at the moment.

Wii Sports is probably the most common one I can think of. Other than that, no idea, sorry. You should probably check out the highest rated Wii games on IGN, or Metacritic for example. Then look for the multiplayer ones.

That drubbing Spurs got today must have had an effect on him.

Change it to manual in the settings.

PES 3 wasn't on the xbox according to wikipedia.

Well, I mean Playstation in general. I'm sure it used to be exclusive to Playstation?

PES was sooooooooo much better when it was exclusive to the PS3. Either way, it's time for Seabass to go. Goodbye and thanks for all the fish!

You have to change it to manual in the game settings. It's hard to do though, controlling 2 players at once.

We all know that the demo isn't a full demo, but the game won't change that much by the time the next demo comes around.

What a weirdo, eh? I deleted the demo last night. I've officially had enough of it.

You like pretending to be an admin, don't you? ;)

I'm surprised nobody has really touched on the player movement whilst receiving passes. It's the main gamebreaker for me. It's even worse than last year. They do that same thing where instead of instantly collecting a through pass when YOU want to, they'll sort of jog along side the ball. Other...

I'm not saying it's the most important thing, chill out. I'm saying that it's lazy to not change the appearance of the game. Variety is the spice of life.