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It's so true. Slightly off topic, but I still can't believe IGN gave Fifa a 9.5!! That pretty much means it's one of the best games this year. Better than Deus Ex, on par with Portal 2, better than LA Noire. Utter bull crap.

Played one game of Fifa 12 demo against my brother. Exactly the same game as last year.... ie shit.

You can edit your posts you know, abu. Saves you getting a warning from the mods for triple posting :)

Theres actually an article on IGN, quite a lot of folk are having sign in problems. I agreed to that new agreement a while ago.

I can't sign in to PSN. Apparently it's a common problem.

I still like the idea of everyone just picking mid-med high level teams. I'm talking about teams such as Porto, Napoli, Spurs, Valencia, even Juve and perhaps Arsenal. The teams have attributes now, we could set a cap. To add to this default rule, we could allow it so that if BOTH players who...

Fair point, though we don't want some twats picking Madrid/Barca every game. In PES 2011, I refused to play against/with the big teams. I think the league should be more based on the skill of the player, than the skill of the team. That's why I think random teams would be best. It would mean...

Well I seem to remember it being quite early in the game... plenty of time for me to score. I was actually thinking we could have a community league of some sort. Even if we just set it up on here and play exhibition matches. Have a round of fixtures each week. Basically, you'd arrange a time...

The game probably takes half the time when you're running in guns blazing.

I'll do that on my next playthrough. Basically, I'm just gonna be a bit of a bastard next time :D

Oh yeah, I try to remain undetected.

I'm definitely getting into this more and more as I play it. I'm just: At first, I was being all nice and non-lethal. But now, I just think fuck it, some folk deserve to die. Plus it's awesome when you hack a turret/bot and everyone is slaughtered. I have some sort of code though - I...

1) It's your fault for not taking it seriously. I take every game seriously. I'm professional afterall. 2) I seem to remember I was winning in the 2nd game and you quit :hmm: But in all seriousness, I think a PESgaming league would be a good idea. I just hope they sort the connection out...

Obviously you're a bit biased towards the Portuguese players, fair enough. But Coentrao doesn't deserve a stat that high. He's good.... but not THAT good. 85 is good enough for Nani. Remember, this isn't Fifa, overalls are generally lower on PES. 85 for example is a great rating. Also...

I can't take credit for it, it was that abu chap who posted it in another thread.

Here: http://www.pesdb.net/pes2012/index.php?sort=Overall_rating&order=d

To be fair, you were pretty shit at PES 2011, so nothing has changed :joel:

Someone posted a link in another demo thread to a PES 2012 stats database. Don't know how legit it is (attributes seem to be about right), you can check on there. Hernandez is 72 in the demo. Not sure about the rest though. I think Kagawa is mid 70s, Neymar high 70s, Aguero/Silva mid 80s.

@Amateur - Have you played the demo yet? You've been making a lot of comments on it. OK, after playing a few games on Top Player last night, I've noticed that the gulf between Top Player and Professional is huge! I'm struggling to score on TP. Another thing I've noticed, something that's...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the fact that a player will walk alongside the ball before trying to collect it.... even when you're controlling him. I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong, but yesterday I played a horizontal through ball to Lahm, he got near the ball, I was...