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There isn't an official release date yet. September the 14th for the UK has been mooted but not confirmed.

No. Why would any PES2013 purchaser be worried about FIFA 13? Its not going to impinge on our enjoyment of PES2013.

I know its not just me who will think this, but that's not true. That's not just me being equally subjective, the games are completely different, the massive change is game speed. Play on Superstar on PES2012 and then Play on the same level on PES2013, its markedly different. Its not frenetic to...

You need to upgrade to the payable Elite membership first, Here I'm with Iron on this one, I'll only visit the Chatbox after I've been through the Fantasy Footie and main forums. I know some members are habitually in there but during quiet times they will come out and post. As for...

Those teams are to be confirmed.

@MysteryMan, can you post ALL the South American teams on the game please?

He may have access to PES editor ... that's why I've asked about the teams, most of them, if not all would appear through the editor.

Blimey, no more Rosenborg, end of an era on PES.

Anyone used the PES editor on the PC yet?

I know, a few people are fussed by the lack of 360 motion, but I've got to admit It's not a game breaker for me. Its a simple a game focusing on simple aspects to make it enjoyable. I think if they really tried to imitate FIFA and go head to head with it in all that EA does for that brand they'd...

Oh aye, the tackling is VASTLY improved, the analogue stick for applying pressure works and AI players no longer walk right through you. That was a major flaw with PES2012.

I do find it odd that Konami still haven't announced its official licenses for this year. How reliable is this information? By the way Ibra, you're going to need to resize that signature old bean, to 400x100. EDIT: Actually, I've done it for you (link below) :D...

So did I until I played it again recently on Master League, the cursor switching was a real annoyance.

I think thats why I enjoy it Iron, it harks back to earlier PES games, I like that, I consider it a plus not a minus. I think if you're used to the aesthetics of FIFA this game certainly isn't for you.

Ali in "unhappy about something" shocker. I'm really happy with PES2013 simply because I had no expectations of it being any good. From my stand point, I expected shit and was rewarded with non faecal matter instead.

I feel completely opposite, I felt PES2012 was utterly robotic to the point of crushing enjoyment from the game. I'm unequivocal, they shouldn't change anything too drastically for the 2nd demo. I'm sure they're not mad enough to hatchet what is a promising game.

Well that's not definite, the tweets about this suggest a South American league, that could mean either an actual league from South America or teams made up of that region.

I can't speak regarding International teams on the demo - I've only played one game - but in terms of using South American club teams, its been a real joy for me. If it turns out that the South American Club teams are the only section I'll be happy using, so be it. I'd happily buy the game on...

This is great news. This means one thing for me .... FLAMENGOOOOOO!!!

I've been practising that, trying to take advantage of it ... all I end up doing is losing concentration of the actual player I'm controlling and losing the ball. It's a nice function but could be a little easier to execute, I wonder whether it can be remapped.