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I don't know why they haven't so far, I can only guess for fear of legal action for any "likenesses" used without permission.

Bundesliga is always going to be a no go on any PES game for now until eternity, Konami can't afford the license.

Excellent news, what source provided this info?

I'm not fussed about the EPL, I'm ganting to find out what the extended league range will be, Brazil? Argentina?

It's been flagged up by others already Jim, but alas its here to stay. It's a selling point for Elite membership and other members have openly admitted they wouldn't bother visiting the site if it wasn't for Chatbox. The promise of PES2013 really ought to get the site buzzing again. I know off...

Yeah, that's odd but I've seen a few people make that statement. Personally, the difference between the two games couldn't be starker. One was a torrid slog the other is a promising return to form by Konami. Vive le PES2013!

Fucking hell :lmao:

That's not true at all. I use Vagner Love up front for Flamengo, I get the ball with him and use the diagonal push and dash and he speeds past defenders as if they're not there. You can't just hold the ball and run super speed, you need to push the ball ahead and stride onto it.

God, the full assisted passing is awful, a bit like full manual on -2, the ball goes all over the shop. I'm happy with semi assisted on a couple of bars. Speaking of passing, is it me or is it the best its ever been? I was playing some sexy football with Flamengo yesterday, the range of passing...

You need to cut back on the greasy food then. I've never had an issue with the PS3 controller, I find it lighter, easier and more responsive with better battery time. Like I said, I've used both and found the transition to PS3 no problem despite being used to the Xbox360 controller ... I...

I think he means he has multiple accounts.

Yeah, I switched to it from 10 minute matches a while back. It really does eliminate the 0-0 draws, but only just. I find the game isn't quite as hectic and rushed as well. I'll certainly be playing my next ML on 15 minute matches. I do hope they got rid of the shit PES Shop this round. Hardly...

I've been playing on 0, I like the pace of the game, its not too frenetic and well balanced. I'd like to play it on a 15 minute match to really get an idea of how the speeds affect the game on PES2013.

You must be seriously unlucky, I've had none of that. I've had the ball bounce of my players when I've attempted to pass to them. It wouldn't be PES if there wasn't something daft about it. I still maintain that I think the 'keeper animations are fine. I think the FIFA players might be...

Has anyone used the PES editor on the PC version to see what teams are listed in the game yet? I'm dying to know what leagues made the cut.

I have high hopes that this PES is going to bring some of the FIFA converts back, simply because I expect it to be more fun to play than FIFA.

What he said. If I'm uber critical of PES2013 I'll have no issue finding faults ... but ... the difference between PES2012 and PES2013 is that the faults on PES2012 severely hindered any enjoyment I found in the game. The AI ground you down with some very suspect scripting, especially...

Something like that. Dark Souls good then is it?

Yeah but I liked that. I could try it but I didn't enjoy Oblivion for the same reasons I don't think I'll like Skyrim. It's Medieval.

I don't know why, but it just doesn't appeal to me. I think its because its not set after a futuristic apocalypse. Fallout is one of kind in RPG terms.