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Oh and the champions league and europa league will be in BAL aswell.:)

Since I have both X360 and ps3 I know of X360's editing. I used the camera on pes 2009 because it saved me time of doing logos. Ofcourse then you have to recolour it and make it brighter.:)

Well for the PC you can patch and add cool stuff. And yes the graphics will be better. Not really by much though. If you have a big full HD TV (or at least HD READY) the game is awesome aswell (graphics wise). You need a big HDTV to fully experience games on ps3. Also on ps3, you get a really...

I think you are wrong on the demo because it has been confirmed that it's old and btw, not even the WE demo is at 80% for sure and that's newer than the pes demo. I am 100% positive on this. Konami really did a bad move to release a demo this old. Those who played the 90% code says that it...

^HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN PLAYED EITHER THE REVIEW CODE (90%) OR THE FULL GAME YET? Everyone is saying that the demo was a really old build. The WE demo is already an improvement over the pes demo and the pes demo is not 8/10's of the finished game. Far from that. Look at the...

^B is fair enough. I agree.

There's no difference between PC/PS3/X360 versions apart from pc patching. Also there's suppose to be no difference between WE and pes.

As for edit mode. I really cannot agree. Pes 09 had the best edit mode because the kits looked much more realistic because of PNGS that is :) So for me, overall edit mode is best on pes 09.:)

For the first time I completly agree with you. :) I was frustrated when Diego was off especially because no one was a playmaker besides him and Giovinco was still at the bench as you said.

True, but that doesn't mean Ibra is better than messi.

^Many people get both games every year I believe.

^Hey, I didn't insult anyone. It is friendly.

As for individuality. I explained this in the other thread. Basing on the demos though. Fifa 10 demo has more individuality than fifa 09. But pes 09 had better individuality than fifa 10 demo, and now pes 10 demo with all the cards and stuff, the individuality is boosted greatly. So pes 10 has...

ABout fifa skilled dribbling? What's so special? The defenders can still take the ball easily. But a great addition nonetheless. Still pes has some other things which fifa hasn't got. Like individuality tactical play and formations longitiviety shooting from distance etc... As I said many...

^No game can ever be perfect. ;) I agree with you. TOMMY: Understand this though. THIS IT'S A PES FORUM FOR GODS SAKE. You'll be almost sure to meet some pes biased people. Tech skill,well it's still an opinion. I'll make up mine when I play both games :) Oh and player individuality in fifa 10...

^Hey the we 10 demo is really good. I don't believe the new pes will be crap either. But only time will tell.

But you know what, it can come back. And to be honest I preferred the we 10 demo to fifa 10 demo and last year I said it open that fifa 09 was the better game. But again, I'll wait for full release of both games and then judge. All of these debates depend on opinions and some can't accept others...

^The pes demo is really an old build. And old builds lack many new things. Now with these new things in the game, it would become better. That's not polishing, it's adding. They're different. You can polish when the game is almost ready, but the pes demo is far from ready. The WE demo is...

^The 360 dribbling is handy. You have to adapt to the stick. Something which I haven't fully don yet. But I'm getting better.

Well let's leave the pes vs fifa thing when both games are released.