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The people who are praising pes to high heaven are the people who have tried the WE demo and have seen it and thought "pes is back". It has a ps2 gameplay esc feel to it now which is all i wanted.

They should bring it back so there is a whole list of all their stats in 1 page when you press RB and they should make each stat stand out better by using a white background.

The pes community has absolutely blasted konami for the last 2 years and every forum is filled with dissapointment. Basically when pes is crap the fans hold their hands up contrast to fifa fans who were like "fifa 2004 is the best game ever" etc. Fifa fans are mindless people who have been...

Anyone who hasnt played the WE demo, your opinions are outdated.

Has anyone played on superstar difficulty yet? I played slow, dull Italy and they completely had me in their back pocket. I couldnt even get out of my box at times. I am so addicted to the WE demo which is so relieving. I have also decided not to get COD MW2 and instead spend the money on...

Damn this demo is good. Graphics look more spit shined and the game flows so much better. Turning and movement annimations seem tuned up and the general feel is alot better. The reaction times are still there and annoying at times but they are not half as bad as in the pes demo. -Scap that...

Im gutted as i dont think ill be buying pes this year. Operation flashpoint and COD will easility clear out my spending money and i have nothing to sell so ill be sitting on the sidelines absolutely dying to play it. I dont stop thinking how how i could pay for it but the only way is to...

The 360 control is just a mess. It is barely noticable, jutters and staggers when moving, makes the movement sluggish and its really annoying when im running and i change direction slightly even though i havnt tried to and then it makes my player stop sprinting. I rather say f*** it and lets...

They're a good site and get good vids of games. I love playing with germany.

It was at GC

Ive played the demo alot and like it but it seems kinda hollow. There arent many ways of playing other than counter attackingly. Im talking about pes

Pes 6 online is 99% lag free. Ive played a fair amount of games on it recently and its smooth and the games are decent.

Fifa will never replecate pes's shooting and thus will never be truely amazing.

I think they're quality like 80% of the time. They constantly pull of amazing saves and sometimes ive smashed it from 8 yards out and they've tipped it over the bar and i was like "How the fuk!? They do make twaty saves sometimes where the ball is coming straight at them and they use their...

- I think the goal kicks are quite good. I had 1 that almost went into the other box. The reaction times arent that bad for me anymore and i dont like the 360 movement either. Imo it does exist but its just really crap and sometimes stops me sprinting.

I think playing as Real Madrid in their White kit will be so good. Germany by far look the best in the demo and i think its because of their kit so im guessing that Madrid with their white kit will equally look good and obviously will play good.

No1 who has the newer code is saying its fixed. They're saying there's a slight difference.

I think the 360 movment is killing pes. Its really sluggish and slow to turn, you cant go bang, bang past som1 anymore because there isnt 16 ways movement like in pes ps2 and thats taking away from the gameplay.

i was on 480p in the first place and i thought it was bad

Pes 6 on the 360 is a quality game. I bought it recently and played it alot. The online is lagless