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Right, I think I've made my decision so can anyone tell me the best place to get a slide card/swap magic kit from. cheers.

Can anyone who's downloaded the pens tell me what they're like? cos it said it was gonna take 1hr 48mins to download so i didn't do it.

Think how small his feet would have to be if those were slippers! :D

Did you get that today jag? or is it someone else's pic?

Go back to page 180, jag posted a link on there.

God they've managed to capture how truly ugly this guy is even better than in pes3!! All the player graphics look absolutely amazing.

"Another group of monster teenagers shot up their school today. What makes them do it? Video games? Marilyn Manson? It can't be the parents or the fact that school sucks, or that the jocks do get patted on the head when they beat up the weirdo's and the jobs you get once you graduate from school...

lol, nowadays it's more like - wear shinpads every game but wear two pairs against leeds!

Nice one Lami, it sure is handy to have someone who can translate stuff.

You are an absolute soldier doing all this. I just used your work to create some of the arsenal squad players. Also added 10+ to Kezman's aggression after his antics against Roma!

Do you enjoy getting threads closed or something? Post stuff about we8 in the we8 discussion thread. Or just read it in the first place...

lol, are you gonna tell him or shall we just keep watching and laughing?!

Is anybody familiar with the band pitchshifter? they have a song called 'as seen on tv' which is about stuff like this where people/games get targetted because they've been associated with murders etc.

I've gone for pes4 cos that's the one I want the most but I'm really looking forward to gt4 and gta:sa too.

The review all sounds good, I really don't know if I can wait for pes4 now.

The kit editor better be good cos Arsenal's is awful as usual. Does the fact that they've got the real team name there (unlike newcastle) mean that the commentators will actually say it right instead of 'north london'?

Yeah him and Mick Mcarthy would be a great double act. Bobby's nonsense ramblings and mcarthy's self-contradiction would be right at home on pes!

Yeah, only thing is I don't have a dvd writer, only a cd one which might mean i can't make a patched version anyway which is kinda dissuading me from the whole thing. I might have to wait for pes4 after all...

We talked about this before but that does look like an earring in his left ear, does he have one in real life?

Well the only thing I really care about is we8, but I guess no-one will know if that works until it comes out.