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What? No, I play 5min games on 5*. I'd have done it ages ago if it was 1*.

Ok, thanks, one thing i really want to know is if using a slide card is just like having a chip but you have to swap disks every time you boot up? anyone who uses this method who can help?

I don't have any of the info though like receipts or anything cos i bought it second hand. Is the refurbished one with a guarantee?

I'm not sure if I can afford to buy a chipped ps2, will the fact that my ps2 isn't the greatest make it less likely to work with a slide card or will it be just the same as any ordinary games? Also, where's the best place to get a slide card/swap magic? I'm not bothered by the hassle of...

So on we8 will they use our alphabet for the shirts rather than japanese symbols?

Can't be arsed to download it tonight, I'll do it in the morning. Is it anythin we haven't seen before though?

I've added another 4 teams to the list today - Nigeria, Uruguay, Italy and Argentina. I also failed with Uruguay, Bulgaria and Enlgand so I played quite a lot! It takes the total up to 15 now, only 41 to go! :D

Cheers zyg, I'm giving it serious consideration.

How soon after the release will an English patch be available? I have no problem doing this as long as it's easy enough, I just can't stand waiting for pes4 while others are playing we8!

The thing that puts me off a chipped one is obviously the price but I'd be prepared to pay it (just) if it was an English game I was getting but the fact that I'd be playing in Japanese makes me think against it. Oh the turmoil.

My ps2 is definitely on it's way out. Sometimes when there's a break in play on pes3 it just goes black and takes up to 30secs or so to come back but this is becoming more and more frequent so it's looking like it needs replacing. So, I have a few options: - Leave it and hope it can pull...

This sounds like a pretty cool new feature. Not like on pes3 where it's given offside as soon as the ball crosses the line, another step towards total realism.

Nice one cduin, I really hope you're right. I'll have to get editing though to replace wolves, leeds and leicester with palace, w.brom and norwich.

I doubt it cos Brazil is Nike and Chelsea is Umbro...

Yeah me too but you'd miss out on teams like dinamo kiev, porto, basle, lokomotiv moscow, celtic and rangers etc.

I pretty much always play 5min matches (against the cpu anyway) and can score between 0-6 goals. Usually 0,1 or 2 though. With the positioning thing, I only usually play players out of position if they are a) better than the player currently in that position or b) have that position as...

I think A5 = Arsenal and B1 = Villa. also - B5 = Blackburn Remember it goes in alphabetical order so southampton's gotta fit in with that...

Me too, cos I'm champion of 3 games (used to be 4).

1. Accurately Made yourself? No 2. Made yourself with FULL stats? No 3. Made a celebrity? No 4. Lost against a girl? No 5. Won against a girl? Yes 6. Lost to a younger brother or sister? Yes - only on pens! 7. Beaten someone you would consider a PES pro? No 8. Wondered where the ref is...

svendust - That's what I was thinking but maybe he meant who uses one for games? I have a ps2 and nowt else for gaming.