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In fifa the defending is good, but AI defenders are overrated. That was the only major bad thing on fifa. As soon as you dribble, they come and take the ball and the game's dribbling is unresponsive. As for pes. It is really responsive compared to fifa. Anyway my point is that both games aren't...

True. Anyway let's wait and see.:)

Well, it was a teaser. DO NOT JUDGE YET. Teasers usually don't show gameplay.

^Thats bad :(.

^But no gameplay vids released for fifa right? I hope to see some gameplay for pes because that's when I'll start to comment. But not by watching only1. We need more than 1 to determine.

^Yeah, it's looking great. I'll take a look at the improvements. Thanks. That power bar thing is interesting. :)

:no: I can't agree. From ps2 onwards pes always won in graphics. But I agree about gameplay. It's top priority. Also don't be sure that 8 directional movement will return. I hope they won't but still no word on them so.......

Trailers usually show graphics. I won't say a word before I see some gameplay at least on both fifa and pes. BTW where can I read the fifa improvements? I hope they improve shooting from distance because it was really annoying in 09.

^To be fair, I DON'T BELIEVE EA'S WORD ON MENTIONING THE IMPROVEMENTS. They always lie to build the hype for their games. I must play it to believe it.:)

^Ok.:)

^True. The movement on fifa 09 is the same. But the animations are better. There's a difference between player movement and animations.

^It's already out. Look on the home page on this website.

Torres' skin is much better than in 09. BTW he was so great in comparison with real life in pes 09 so you can't expect big improvements. But his hair and skin really are better. I noticed that these new lighting effects are much better at night than in daylight shots.

^Well Man utd were licensed in pes 6 and pes 2009 (1 year gap). I think it's fair to license liverpool again because they were never licensed in pes before (except for 2009).

^Yeah, it's always out in October. I don't see why a change.:( But anyway, it'll come out sometime so a little wait won't hurt.

^Go to pesfan. It's there.

^Excactly. Great graphics. That's what I call next gen.

That is annoying especially on BAL.

^I think that they're gonna show a trailer and pesfan will get it first around 5 PM GMT. I hope we can watch it since I am not a member there.

^Yeah, the next gen rating system is flawed.