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And you actually beleive what it says on that site? The other day it had Serie A and La Liga as fully licenced.

Promising. I still won't believe a thing bout gameplay until I play it mind, but they're making the right noises at least.

Well 'they', whoever that is, are wrong. FIFA have the exclusive licence to the Premier League until 2010 I believe, but it may well be longer. Consequently, PES can only have two licenced Premier League teams, one of which is almost certainly Liverpool this year.

I don't think we'll ever have the ability to import PC style kit templates onto the consoles without patching. We've all seen the shit that the community got for hosting real Prem kits online, that would just mean Konami were aiding and abetting copyright violation. One thing I'm desperate...

I'm sure the rumour originated on this site, somebody posted it as an idea/wishlist kind of thing and people sort of ran with it. But anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I honestly wouldn't tust anything you read about future versions of PES on Wikipedia, its usually fanboys writing...

Seriously, we should ask for a copy of the licensing agreement and make it pop up every time the words 'why', 'more', 'EPL', 'kits' or 'licence' are typed in the same post.

Is there no room for Sir Bobby and Sir Les? And I'm a little surprised Shearer hasn't been mentioned, and its not just becasue I'm a little biased.

Stop the auto-tackling! Its the main reason I haven't played the game in months.

I would argue a fourth too. I'm never sure why people rave on about PES6, on the PS2 it was a sideways rather than a forward move and I thought it was poor on the 360. PES4/5 was the pinnacle (or were the pinacles). Anyhoo, this screenie looks pretty sexy, but how many times have we seen...

Spot on. That was what first drew me to PES1; even in a single player game, you felt good when scoring a goal. And lets face it, its even better when you can be cocky to your mate about it. But we haven't really had that since PES6, and even though I like FIFA better than PES this year, that's...

Woah, chill out man.

I don't think he's suggesting it is the real logo, he's just putting it out there for people to use on their designs.

The game cheats. Not as much as last year, but it does. The best example is when a CPU controlled centre half on your team wipes out an advancing forward, almost always resulting in a red card and a penalty. This is actually one of my main reasons for prefering FIFA this year, for the first time...

Nice try, but there's no point in trying to use common sense when translating English, it just doesn't work.

Don't waste spce on Atletico, Sevilla or Valladolid, if you down;aod the update they're all fully licenced. Valencia, however, are a must.

I've heard that if you score with a player who's on a blue he'll more than likely be on a a green/orange/red next match, but I'm not too sure. Its just as annoying in the ML, all my tired players seem to be on reds and vice-versa.

Into my second season with Sampdoria, top player 10 mins. Finished second in D2 and got knocked out of the cup in the first round last year. Just beat Roma away with nine men, Micheal Chopra (!) scoring the winner. I'm gonna try to stick to buying fairly average players mixed with one or two...

Bloody hell Paolo, I wish I had the time and patience to play that much PES. I just signed some bloke called Gouffard or something, he's a decent player with good potential.

I would imagine they chant about the players and stuff. What a bloody stupid question.

You're better off asking in the editing section mate.