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Okay then peeps (and especially Abu), I have posted long and in depth videos of PES over the past week to show off PES’ brilliance as so many people are bitching and moaning about the game, to those that have consoles, my heart goes out to you, to those with PC’s you’re bitching because you’re...

I totally agree. The amount of people that are still bitching about the defensive controls is truly staggering. The defensive aspect and the defensive AI of PES 2012 PC (modded) is the best system there has EVER been. People are crying that they can't tackle; well I can anywhere on the pitch...

It's all been done guys, the votes are in so to speak and are being counted lol - The analysis of both will be huge, massive. I don't even know if I'll be able to post on here as it will be so big. I am not going to divulge much more today because it will take me ages to upload and write...

Abu, I play every game to win, but for me, that isn't even what it is about. For me the content of the game is the most important, the result is always almost secondary, even though I play every game to win. It's all been done now, the clips are in so to speak. I will upload later and from...

Yoxa why would you feel like you are cheating? First off using Jenkey's patch makes the game freer and more unpredictable, so the decrease in CPU cheating is outweighed by the greater CPU AI and variation in attack. It's quite simply this for me; Do I want to play the same repetitive game...

Abu I'm going to have so much fun tomorrow lol, really I am. You challenged me to upload FIFA clips as you said that all I was doing was dishing out the good points of PES whilst having no proof that FIFA was indeed much worse than PES, a challenge which I accepted. I'll even address...

In the interests of fairness what do you want me to do? PES, I'll play on Superstar level, 20 minute, matches. I think my next game is against Swansea but unsure at the Liberty. For FIFA, I think World Class is a fair barometer, 10 minute halves? Got no idea about the sliders etc, do you...

You want proof of how bad FIFA is, you got it matey! I'll play a game tonight on PES, and a game on FIFA and I'll compare and contrast! Just for you Abu!

Oh man, if I had the inclination, I would address each point with video clip footage on my phone to counter you. 1) Don't know what the inference was to back passes, but I have clips of stunning saves (contextual), multiple saves, etc 2) My defenders always jump, it's just that sometimes a...

Disagree totally, Master League is what I buy PES for, online is/has been absolutely rubbish due to the fact there is no incentive not to go Barce/Real etc. 99% of teams therefore go unused and the game becomes a shit fest run-athon.

Ilyasmad, the games I'm playing at the moment are truly brilliant, all all facets. I could could camera footage and post nearly any game up on here, as they all are so different not just in the result but in the different types of goals, different pace of the game, just everything.

Totally agree. You can slag KONAMI off for animations, their outdated retro bullshit, and general weird quirkiness, but on the pitch the attacking and defending AI is quite superb. This year I think the defending is a revelation, it's that good. I get more enjoyment out of keeping a clean...

I know, it was a cheap shot, but couldn't resist....:blush:

I hope you see the irony of you telling another that his grammar and spelling is shocking? :tongue:

Okay this is my last HUGE POST regarding why I think PES2012 (patched with Fire Patch) is the best representation of football I’ve ever played. If you haven’t the appetite for a lengthy reading session then look away now. Okay so the first big post this week entitled “PES2012, 15 min Games...

I think it's his attempt at sarcasm.....ironically what he says is right though lol

It's pretty cool isn't it, but I don't think there is anything like it for the PS3 at the moment mate, this is why I'm locked in my bedroom hooked on this PC version, whilst the worse half is using MY 50" plasma to watch endless episodes of True Blood....lol, her loss I suppose! Okay guys...

Okay guys, here's my other game I played earlier. Again, I'm not picking the games, these are just random games where anything can happen, I'm not trying to MAKE anything happen, the game just does! This is using Jenkey's tool to decrease game speed slightly, but not his gameplay element or...

That first vid wasn't Jenkey mate, just the Fire Patch stuff. It's where even I'm confused a bit as I thought the Fire Patch stuff was just the kits etc, but there are changes to the pes executable file from Fire Patch so I don't know whether it's fire Patch gameplay alterations. It must be as...

Err, yeah Abu, is anything in that list a gimmick though, things like penalties, headers, deflected goals, are all part and parcel of football. There's nothing gimmicky about anything in that list, they are by products of a move that ends like that, whereas the general FIFA player is more...