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Firstly what mode do you play? ie Professional, Top Player etc Secondly I agree with you that if you played 1.02 as it is, and the CPU park the bus, then the only options you have is the longer shot from around the box. But there are other versions of the game (patches) that un-make the...

I'm going to put one more video up peeps, it's my last shot at convincing many on here how beautiful PES is, and how much more of a simulation PES is (patched). The one I was going to put up was one from this morning, I played Chelsea after that Newcastle game and got beat 5-1 at the Bridge...

I think this is where FIFA and PES people will always differ, for FIFA players 'goal variation' is something like dribbling past 5 players, 'scorpion kicks', rainbow flicks, all gimmicky bullshit stuff, this is a FIFA's interpretation of 'goal variation'. A PES players interpretation of...

At first I wasn't sure if it did or didn't (affect gameplay), but changes are made to the PES2012.exe file, and I don't know how to explain the difference in terms of the CPU parking the bus when you run the normal exe file, and the freer experience you get when you run the game through Fire...

But I think you are on about animations/transitions - we all agree that FIFA is better in this department, nobody would argue that. What I care about 95% in a FOOTBALL GAME, is how the game plays, how defensive units shift, how you attack, what sort of moves and positions are needed to get from...

LOL, no that game didn't look like FIFA, because guess what, people move about in real life!??! Oh Jesus. I give up. You win, FIFA is the sim lol

LOL, OCKRASS, you're a gem. The ones I post on Youtube ARE the special goals I score lol. Bear in mind I play around ten games of PES a day, so multiply that by lots of days, and you'll get a figure in the 100's. Do you want me to post every goal I score here on PES, lol that's just...

Sigh - OCKRASS - I feel we're like a dog chasing his tail here, so I'll break it down REAL simple. 1) I bought and played PES 2) I bought and played FIFA During the PES/patches debacle I put PES on the sidelines and SO EXCLUSIVELY played FIFA. I had a season with it and can tell you...

I used to agree with you on your second point, I used to relate slow, pondering, build up play as a sign of 'simulation' and anything fast and end to end as 'arcade'. I have been having this very discussion yesterday on another forum in which some PES members like going onto gamespeed -2...

Okay guys, this is going to be a huge post, it may even be taken off here for being so long BUT I wanted to make something that shows just how good PES is, as the general consensus is that FIFA is the bees knees, and this PES is just a big ball of shit, whilst also taking people through some...

I will post a video that will disprove all that lol

Abu, I have said time and time again, that PES has/had huge flaws. Out of the box it was very good, but the keepers were like Stephen Hawkings......on a bad day. Then KONAMI tried to disguise the fact that keepers were bad, by making all shots go centrally; nice one KONAMI...you would have...

Shaun, I wouldn't even waste your finger energy replying anymore mate lol. You see, I see it, they don't. More pity them.

Guys, I rented FIFA again today just to see if this new patch had changed anything, and it's just the same old same old. I'm with Shaun on this...PES has it's faults but I just don't get the love for FIFA this year. For me, it's almost unplayable. I still can't get my head round people's...

FIFA is a shower of shit. PES was a shower because of the goalies (out of the box), then it became a shower because of the blind fix where shooting went straight (1.01), then it was a shower because the game became dull and monotonous (1.02). BUT, a PC modded PES 2012 is a different kettle of...

I'm going to be a bit wishy washy here put a few things down in different contexts. For overall package, completion, addictiveness, the whole shabang, my award for the best footy experience in it's entirety (taking into consideration the era as well) has got to be PES6 PS2. BUT, I played PES...

I'm having this crisis of confidence right now dude where I need a challenge, I am a big champion of Jenkey's patch on the PC BUT that doesn't make the game hard, it makes it realistic in terms of sim-wise and fair. I've had to reformat one of my drives today for various reasons and have just...

I think we buy the products year on year for two reasons; 1) We think there are enough differences (albeit subtle) to change up a version. I played PES2011 on the PS3 so this is my first foray into PC editing, and I'll wondering what I've been missing 2) Our love for PES in general For...

Uh, I've been busy for a day or so, have I stepped into the Jeremy Kyle forums lol

Err, why should/would I sugar coat the PC version? Do you think I'm some sort of PC lover? The fact is nothing would please me more than having a game that works on the PS3, would have saved me the headache of a month of potching about with settings, tvs, cables, platforms etc etc. I have...