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Adjusting team strategies for realism

blazer89

Registered User
I don't know any other way to explain it so:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_format

So, you just want to know the file types of each save file???

If so, each PS3 save file has four files that will show up on your PC:

1. The main data file, a BIN File.
2. A picture file that shows up on the PS3's XMB, a PNG Image.

And then two other small files which I'm not sure about:

3. A PFD File.
4. A SFO File.

If you want more than that you're gonna have to ask someone else... Or just download them for yourself? :ninja:
 

stodge

Registered User
Sorry for the dumb question but how do I install these files? I only care about the strategy changes. Do I follow the usual options file installation? I can't remember the directory structure so let me go find it. Something like PS3/SavedData blah blah... :) Hopefully I'll try this tonight.
 

blazer89

Registered User
Sorry for the dumb question but how do I install these files? I only care about the strategy changes. Do I follow the usual options file installation? I can't remember the directory structure so let me go find it. Something like PS3/SavedData blah blah... :) Hopefully I'll try this tonight.

Yeah each PS3 save file is in a folder titled, "BLUS30404E..."

You put the ones you want in a folder titled "SAVEDATA" and put that in a folder titled "PS3" and then put that one on your USB stick.
 

stodge

Registered User
Thanks - that's what I thought.

Managed to get it working after updating the PS3 AND PES10! :p SLooooooooow wait. Thanks for the file. :)
 

KeeganJacobs

Registered User
Great testing Blazer ! I like testing as well, and if you dont mind , can you help me with the attack card system , i truly feel its broken.

Offense, Balance, and Defense priority .... Do me a favor and use GERMANY for example and put ballack on Defense priority . By doing that , it means ballack wont do forward runs and will just stay back to defend correct ? Well for me , even when i put him on DEFENSE priority , he will make forward runs to the penalty box when i get real close to the opponent box and i dont want that ! I want him to stay back ..

Try this in training mode...When i actually changed his ROLE to DMF , he was actually staying back but i feel we dont need to do that as the ATTACK CARD adjustments should be enough.

Let me know what you think and im also on PS3 , N. America ...if you wanna test , let me know.

PSN: Keegan_Jacobs
 

KeeganJacobs

Registered User
Got these recommendations from another thread. They are along the same lines as what I have been saying, though I just recently recommended giving a slight boost to Position Switch too (see post above this one).

Credit to Sabatasso for these.

"Professional:
global +10 pressure
global +20 player support
global +10 defensive line
global -30 attacking style
global -30 compactness

Top Player
global -30 pressure
global +20 player support
global +10 defensive line
global -30 attacking style
global -35 compactness


This will result in more open games in BAL, and also make for a more interesting ML career. More goals, and AI scripting will kick in much less because the AI is able to score regularly without cheating. The Top Player solution is definetly the best alternative, regardless of how "good" you are because it isn't really that hard, just challenging."

are you starting from 0 on every team or changing what their defaults are ? example lets say germany is at 60 pressure , so if on professional we take them to 70 , and lets say france is on 40 pressure , take them up to 50 ?
 

blazer89

Registered User
Great testing Blazer ! I like testing as well, and if you dont mind , can you help me with the attack card system , i truly feel its broken...

I don't even pay attention to the player cards... Or any strategy/managing for that matter. I have my edit file set up for the computer to assist with everything possible... So I can't really help you.

are you starting from 0 on every team or changing what their defaults are ? example lets say germany is at 60 pressure , so if on professional we take them to 70 , and lets say france is on 40 pressure , take them up to 50 ?

From the defaults. If a team had 50 pressure, I added 10 to that to make it 60.
 

LUCAPLAYER

Registered User
a new game

I have to say that changing team strategies has made this game better!
I think, anyway, that we shouldn't go below 30 in attacking styke and compactness, in order to have more balanced team. If you have 45 by default in compactness is already wide, but if you lower to 15 is a way too low.
What do you think?
 

Sabatasso

Banned
I don't really notice the difference between 1 and 15 in compactness. Attacking style makes the teams play better offensively, the lower the better all the way to 1.
Some teams play more or less like that for real as well, just using the central players as connectors between the wings and defensively ofcourse.

A team with players placed wide on the tactics board will operate a little strange with too low attacking style, however, but other teams are depend on low attacking style setting to make their formation work at all.
 

stevenufc

Registered User
I've done the changes and it plays so much better, as the opponents actually attempt to score once in a while!!! however they still dont attack enough for my liking.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
^ try slowing down your own pace of attacking, or at least don't pressure AI until they are on your half. If you globally edit Stamina down by 3-4 points you'll see a more "realistic" stamina loss for the non stop sprinting most people play PES with.

agility +5 for all players
minimum 75 agility for all players

PES behaves completely different, and AI players with good dribbling stats with 85+ agility will tear you a new arsehole if you go too offensively out.
 

stevenufc

Registered User
Is there a quick way of changing stats for every player (ps3) ??? or do you have to do all of them one at a time
 

KeeganJacobs

Registered User
"Professional:
global +10 pressure
global +20 player support
global +10 defensive line
global -30 attacking style
global -30 compactness

Are those the latest sliders that we are using ?

Attacking style i dont see on the PS3. Is that offense style ?
 

Sabatasso

Banned
"Professional:
global +10 pressure
global +20 player support
global +10 defensive line
global -30 attacking style
global -30 compactness

Are those the latest sliders that we are using ?

Attacking style i dont see on the PS3. Is that offense style ?

yes, it's offensive style.

I put all teams on 68 pressure, if it's any more than that you'll have a horde of players running after you quite often and it's not very realistic. Probably only a problem on Superstar level though.
 

Sabatasso

Banned
Sabatasso why do you play on Professional and not Top Player?

I play on Superstar, but in BAL I am not able to activate that difficulty yet on PC. So I play professional in BAL, because the AI are more logical in that difficulty. All Top Player does anyway is boosting the opponents Agility and Response, plus scripting kicks in all the time.
Professional is actually very similar to Superstar, the main difference is the goalscoring efficiency. Top Player on the other hand seems to go out of it's ways to make the game unrealistic and boring.

I have boosted Response and Agility on all players on my OF, so my professional level is harder than "standard" Top Player.
I lose a game every now and then, something that never really happen on "standard" Top Player. I just lost 1-3 (with Argentina) against Brazil in the world cup finals for example. But I won 2-0 (with Norway) against them the tournament I played yesterday. I played both these tournaments in Professional because I forgot to "patch" the option file to Superstar after doing some testing.

Activating Superstar on PC can be quite frustrating, after doing so you must avoid all types of options menus, because the cause the game to crash.

PS. Just because Top Player is supposed to be the hardest game mode, doesent automatically mean that it offers the best gaming experience.
I feel that a modified OF that does exactly what the difficulty settings does, without the negative effects offer a better gaming experience, better simulation and a satisfying level of challenge. I would not mind the game being harder, but I would mind it if it does so by making your controls worse and your teammates stupid as Top Player does.
 
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