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  1. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    I get your point, I do admit that "on paper" it (what I want) does sound a great deal more complicated than what it actually is. I mean, I make it clear, that two (or three?) years ago I fully acknowledged the fact that PES10 was a shit video game, but I still enjoyed that game a lot, even...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    I think you are an asshole, maybe other people don't agree, but I've seen just about enough to make up my own mind. I do not like the people/internet persona who, like you, believe that their subjective perception actually amounts to something objective. You claim things like "The new Physics...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    So a light exaggerating, about the fact that gaming forums are not old enough to establish a set pattern of what mixes or doesn't, amounts to calling you a racist? Laughing my ass off. And you talk about "civilized" people, when you cannot even distinguish the difference, between me saying that...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    To be fair though, I don't do this very often, I mean, it's been quite a long time since I bothered posting anything on the PES section. So I do think that you are talking shit, to a great extent, because nothing that I've said to you, actually justifies the severity of your response. The...
  5. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    Bullshit. Mortal Kombat is a 2D game in a 2D setting. PES is a 2D game in a 3D setting. That fact alone, changes everything. Core principals cannot be the same. In Mortal Kombat, you can see subtle movements before an attack and after an attack, where you have a split-second to attack or...
  6. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    Nah not mad. You just happen to be an asshole, that's all :)
  7. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    All determined by timing and skill? Really? * Touching the R2 button whenever it is obvious that you should press the R2 button requires skill? * Releasing the R1 sprint whenever it is obvious that you should release the sprint button requires skill? * Pressing the cursor change button...
  8. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    So let me see if I understand you correctly. On one hand, to you PES is "just a fucking game!", but on the other hand, "FIFA is shit!"? That to me, sounds like a massive contradiction, because I know for a fact that the core differences between PES13 and FIFA13 are incredibly small, which means...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    What's stopping you from playing PES6 or PES5? Personally, I'm bored, of playing football "simulations" where you can barely adjust the body positioning before a shot or before a pass: it's cheap and shallow "pick up and play" entertainment. I won't deny that I did enjoyed PES5 and PES6 a...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    I agree, that's what criticism is at the end of the day, but listening to the opinion of an experienced and informed person is always a worth while read, whereas listening to the opinion of someone who obviously cannot voice his true feelings (due to obvious reasons) is just a complete waste of...
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    demo2 release date announced

    I'm not going to say that I agree or disagree, but, how is PES different than FIFA in that respect? Or are you going to tell me that, PES, a game with no midfield battles, is a true simulation of football? How can anybody argue that FIFA is pick up and play (it is), yet that PES is not pick up...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    I think that video game reviews are particularly shit. I mean, if you compare it with music critics and film critics, video game critics are simply too sold out to be taken seriously. Questions like: "hey why has COD not actually improved in the last four years? You'll never hear that from...
  13. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    I get what you're saying, and of course PES6 will not look like a "sim" seeing how it was based on an eight directional button, I'm not arguing that, but I do still think that PES6 was more sophisticated: animations, graphics, player individuality, the overall feel of the game, were all very...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    LOL at your foolish claim. Manual shooting is not difficult, any person who dedicates a little time, will master the system. Please, stop pretending that you are good at something difficult, it's not fucking difficult. The system is simply not good, it doesn't take enough factors into...
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    Questions from a (possibly) returning player

    You are a moron :) No wonder you haven't seen the things that a normal human being would see after 10 minutes of play, your mind is switched off when you play the game (and if your writing is anything to go by, your mind is also switched off when you're not playing your fix). Oh well.... At...
  16. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    It's quite unbelievable isn't it? Who could have predicted that the producers of PES5 and PES6, would ever produce arcade-bullshit such as PES12 and PES13? I cannot stress this enough.... PES13.... manual shooting.... Since when is it manual, to direct the shot towards the north-east, and...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    To be fair, heated arguments are healthy, as long as personal insults and other childish tactics are not a part of it. As for PES.... Probably, the best way to summarize my opinion, is by saying that I do think that, in many ways, PES6 on the PS2 was more sophisticated than PES13. It made more...
  18. Amateur

    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    Just played about two hours of the demo, and I have to say, I can't do this anymore, this is not a proper video game. Before the inevitable "you must be playing a different demo than...." comes out, just let me assure everyone that I am, indeed, playing the very same demo as everybody else...
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    PES 2013 Demo 2: Feedback, Impressions, Discussions etc.

    That's an interesting point, I have to ask though, why do so many people feel that "communities ruin the experience" as opposed to "the video game is not good enough because it is filled with cheap flaws"?
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    Questions from a (possibly) returning player

    Well I have played FIFA since 2000, and I do agree with Shaun, and furthermore, I know a lot of people who will agree with Shaun, so I think, if anyone is writing bullshit, it's you. Ockrass you've always have a tendency for being extremely negative towards PES whilst at the same time being...
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