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I agree with that, For starters, if PES5 had the passing system of PES11, it would be unplayable, it would be an unplayable ping pong game.... where each game would end with 5-7 score lines. It's easy to say that something does not feels right about PES11 and PES10, but the problem is not as...

LMAO I fully agree, it's just stupid how people criticize FIFA for something that PES also does. At the end of the day, both games are so outdated at this point that it's not even funny anymore... I mean.... Seriously... it's year 2010 and the players still automatically move by themselves...

Good for you, you stopped reading there, cool. Even if it is 8-axis, it has the passing power bar... which WILL and DID changed the game. It took PES how many years to implement such an obvious feature? You have yet to explain why 2K9 and 2K10 are not unresponsive video games and you are...

Sure you do not know what I mean, you don't even know why the defensive system in PES5 is broken... It's kinda funny to be honest, the flaw is so invisible, that people do not see it as a flaw, they already see it as part of the game; yet it is the reason for why defending was broken in PES5 and...

I think this is likely to be my last post regarding this particular subject, so I want to be clear about what I'm saying and what I'm not saying. The motion capture + 360 axis analogue stick, formula; works pretty well for the 2K Series, 2K9 and 2K10 are good examples. Like everything, someone...

Yeah but even with PES5 and PES6, you have a difference in RESPONSE times... And yet PES6 did not had any MOTION CAPTURE, and you can certainly feel, straight away, a difference in terms of RESPONSIVENESS between PES5 and PES6. So your MOTION CAPTURE theory does not quite fit into this story...

Ok, pure dribbling (as you call it) is more than just ONE skill; DRIBBLING is many different type of skills put together. In PES11 and FIFA11 you only have a very small portion of DRIBBLING, the essential mechanics of dribbling are missing. Here is where the problem lies, In real life, if...

That is true... but instead of acknowledging the negatives alone, also consider the positive effects: in PES6 the game is more fluid, because it is not as spot-kick filled as PES5. But other than that, PES6 is when it started going shit, because PES6 was the first game were the D-PAD...

That's a good point, This happens because, back in PES5 and PES6, the left analogue stick worked like an 8-axis d-pad... an 8-axis d-pad can only handle a handful of animations... and thus, you only implement the basic animations: responsive running animations that revolve around the 8-axis...

That's also what I'm hoping PES11 is, a stepping stone towards something new and different, I'm tired of hearing the phrase, "great foundation for the future", only to find out that PES15 still revolves around a D-PAD RESTRICTION. In fact, what is the difference between the foundation that PES5...

Cool, that's what I meant to say, definitely agree about that.

After repeating the same thing a couple of times, that's what I understood; that it is a video game, it's not real life. You never actually said that PES11 should not be compared with the real thing; but to me it sounded more or less like you were saying that. Fully agree, I am aware of...

Don't take this the wrong way, but, you have repeated that same remark about "we can argue if it is realistic or not which I´m not going to do cause it´s a video game" You can say that a million times, yet the fact remains that Konami DOES looks at REAL FOOTBALL when they work on PES; and...

Dude read it again, a completely changed what I initially said... your post was decent and would have been a good one had you not contradicted yourself right at the end of it. But the way it started and the way it ended, made me think that I should not read through all your bullshit; but...

I do not agree with that definition. Dribbling is not just ONE thing, DRIBBLING is the sum of many different skills put together. Therefore, your definition is redundant and impractical as far as I'm concerned. That said, I do think your verdict is almost fair: I say broken, you say could be...

I have a simple question, How do the L2 STRATEGIES work in PES 2011? Do we still have 4 on-the-fly strategies like in PES10? Or has the number of on-the-fly strategies been reduced to 2 or 3?

Ok, So I read the following thing about PES11, it reads, "the addition of 1000 all-new animations has greatly increased the number of ball touches during dribbling. Using the D-pad to adjust timing and power makes it possible to change the distance of ball touches and the speed of pullbacks."...

Dude, you are one of the few regulars who makes sense on a consistent basis, Stop saying that FIFA11 is a great video game when you know it is bullshit; FIFA11 is shit, a very polished and finished product, but a very outdated concept at its core. Eventually, the game will not last one month...

Dude, for all you know I could be watching online porn at this very moment.... how the fuck can you tell me to "chill out" when you do not even know my current state because you cannot actually see me nor hear me? COMPUTERS have been around for less than a century... and already you can notice...

That explains why you think that PES6 and PES10 are better than PES11. The analogue is much better than the d-pad, the d-pad does not has range of movement... which makes it impossible to actually dribble with the ball. At the same time, the left analogue stick is not responsive enough nor...