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Fully agree about PES10, spot on comments by the way, However, I think you are looking at PES10 and PES6 and PES11, with D-PAD tinted glasses... and if you look at it like that, you will not see what the LEFT ANALOGUE STICK could do if it was properly used or employed. The problem with PES11...

Actually, in my experience with PES10 and FIFA10, I found that PES10 had more DEPTH as well... I barely ever played FIFA10, and whenever I played against my "hardcore" FIFA friends, I scored one-on-one goals at will... FIFA10 had no depth, after five games I already had a feel of how to play...

Of course there will always be limitations, starting with the fact that we have a total of 10 fingers. But if Konami has moved on to the left analogue stick, Konami should make better use of the left analogue stick. Yes there will always be limitations... but the left analogue stick being...

You most certainly CAN judge a Football Sim without playing the game, because a VIDEO will suffice. A VIDEO will tell you what the left analogue stick can do and what the left analogue stick cannot do; that alone, is enough to judge the final product. A VIDEO will also show you how EA Sports...

Gun_Runner That is the bottom line, that is what it all boils down to... you cannot actually dribble with the ball... And yes, PES and FIFA have the very same underlying flaw; the difference in feel, is determined by how Konami and EA Sports decide to hide the underlying flaw. Dribbling with...

I'm also pleased that he is in the game, I will include him into the usual Classic XI Team. By the way, Classic Players look rubbish in PES, generic faces and generic hairstyles, as well as random names; you are better off doing it yourself. I think Lucio (Inter) makes a pretty convincing...

Because, 1st -- the left analogue stick works like a d-pad. What Konami and EA Sports did, is that they replaced the old 8-axis d-pad concept which was used in games like PES5 and PES6, and they replaced that system with a 360-axis d-pad concept: same old concept attached to a different button...

Excellent point, You say that PES11 is poor... I agree with that, the only difference is that I think FIFA11 is worst; so I spend my time playing PES11. I do think PES11 is the best Football Sim to date, but considering the date, I do think it is outdated and overrated. The other day I...

The defensive system in PES11 is broken, and in FIFA11 is also broken, in fact, all the football sims that I have played in my life-time have a broken defensive system... The fact that you literally control the off-the-ball runs of all the players via the left analogue stick.... is impractical...

1st -- get rid of the remaining d-pad roots... and change how the left analogue stick works: make better use of the left analogue stick. 2nd -- change the bloody defensive system... seriously, it's the same old broken bullshit, change it, replace it with something that has something to do with...

You have not explained WHY the shit method exists... but what you briefly explained, that is the bottom line, PES copied FIFA, and FIFA has been perfecting an OUTDATED concept; which means that, PES just replaced an outdated concept for yet another outdated concept... PES used to be...

PES and FIFA do not have 360 MOVEMENT... it is 360 RUNNING, but it is not 360 DRIBBLING nor 360 MOVEMENT; this is why you can only run in different directions... But there is a very clear difference between RUNNING with the ball in different directions and actually DRIBBLING with the ball in...

I also was not trying to be smart, I was just pointing out a simple and obvious fact, which is that the D-PAD has clear limitations; by the way, I didn't get the sarcasm... Anyways, you should try to adapt to the LEFT ANALOGUE, because from now on PES will be based on the left analogue; rather...

Dude, Before trying to become the authority on how's a noob and who isn't a "noob" -- perhaps -- it would be wise to be a little more practical and mature before uttering the word "noob" Someone who still plays PES5 or PES6 is in no position to call anyone a noob. PES5 and PES6 were designed...

This can easily be fixed in the edit mode, by adding CB as one of Xavi Hernandez playing positions. This way, you could play him as a 3rd CB and he will not get pissed. And also, if that doesn't works, you can always do the very same thing, but instead of as a 3rd CB, you position Xavi in his...

When I was saying WB, I meant to say FB. The idea is that the 3rd CB will be in front of the FB: the FB should be positioned in a deep position, and the additional CB will make it easier to start attacks with the FBs. By the way, I never played the ML in PES10, I played the League mode... it...

Well, it doesn't make much of a difference, the important thing is to try it in PES11 and see if it still works... and if it still works, see if it has improved in one way or the other, perhaps it's more responsive now. I can't tell because I have not downloaded the demo. But hopefully it...

Dude, You should try it 1st in PES10 so that you get what I'm saying, because in PES10 it works to perfection... although with a tiny bit of lag/delay. But I think it will give you a better know-how if you try it 1st on PES10 and then try it on PES11, so that you can notice the differences...

I wanted to make a suggestion to the people whom are playing the PES11 demo; a suggestion for you to try (if you want) the next time you play the PES11 demo. The purpose of this thread is for you to read the suggestion which will be explained, and to try the suggestion on PES11, and to provide...

Have you tried using the L2 strategies on PES11? If so, does it works the same way as in PES10? If you have not tried certain tricks with the L2 strategies, I would like to make a suggestion, to see how it works in PES11. The L2 trick that I'm about to explain to you, it greatly improved my...