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No offense, but this is exactly what's wrong with PES. It seems the fans do Not know what real Football is. PES09 is almost perfect?? Please elaborate on that statement. WHY is it perfect?? Is it because of the COM controlling everything from sliding tackles, to dribbles, to shoots going in...

Today I played 2 matches of Pro Evo 2009.. what a waste of time. It's just so bad, the COM has control of everything. First match, I haven't played PES for a month now, on the hardest level -- and I still managed to score 2 easy goals. I keep doing the same thing, keep shooting the same shots...

Good title for this thread, straight and simple. First and foremost I would say that the whole "Football Package" isn't doing Konami any favors. I think Konami should forget all about New Modes, Licenses, Graphics, Weather Conditions, Editing Mode, 11 vs 11, and all that. They should instead...

I played PES09 for two weeks or three, maybe a month, but after that I haven't even touched the game again. It's just boring and very easy in my opinion. It isn't Football, and it isn't what I expected from Konami. And it is a bit strange, cause I can't really say that "PES09 is shite" but...

This was back in the PS2 version of PES6, I really fail to understand why they decided to change it so badly. I remember when I first started to use the tricks, the tricks seemed to be for "show" only.. But after mastering it I got to see that every trick had an actual use. - Cutting the Ball...

My best memory.. I think it was one match, it was near the end, I had the ball with Pele, just outside the area, and I'm running -and- I chipped the ball over a defender and then kicked the ball on the touch, Goal!! and a narrow win by 3-2. I cannot do the same in PES09, mainly because the...

Agreed.. I've always wanted a Control for "Shielding" the ball, something intuitive. Like by Holding or Tapping the L1 button + Directional Stick; the player shields the ball in that direction. Like if you press to the right, the player moves his body to the right, protecting the ball from the...

That's a good question, and No I don't use the drag back anymore.. since the dribbling controls became so uncomfortable. I just don't like how the dribbling tricks work in the Left Stick. Maybe by Holding or Tapping the R2 button + moving the Left Stick??

Dude that's pointless.. If you want to play a "child's game" then go ahead and play the versions that you like. And I really don't get your point.. How is PES09 more realistic??? If anything PES09 is that "fun and straightforward" game that you're asking for. It is easier than older versions...

The difference is that in PES the Stats do play an important part.. On the other hand, I cannot say the same about FIFA, every player pretty much (judging by FIFA08) feels and plays the same. The FIFA-Faces look embarrassing for a Next Gen title, they should look at 2K9. But anyways, FIFA...

Yeah, I also don't think much of the dribbling tricks.. why did they moved them to the Left Stick?? I would like to see the tricks moved back to the Right Stick, and a few more tricks could help. Along with new tricks, I'd also like to see the "Dribbling Accuracy" Stat divided into more...

Dude, but that's how it is in reality, when you know you nailed a shot, you know it will go in, it's that simple. The hard part is nailing the shot, you have to create space, you have to be in the right position, you have to time it right.. it is difficult enough as it is. It really...

I think it's more like fans were disappointed by PES08, they waited to see if PES09 would take the series back on track, they played the demo or the full version -and- decided not to buy the game. FIFA09 had a poor prequel, and now EA is selling more FIFA copies than ever before. On the other...

In my opinion?? PES09 is one-dimensional, every FIFA before FIFA09 was one-dimensional. One-dimensional is when something doesn't offers any "replay value", something that PES09 lacks. If you don't find PES09 one-dimensional, then good for you. I don't see it that way.. I think that PES09 is...

PES09 would be better IF: * If the movements weren't mechanic and rigid and unnatural. More Directions would also make it much better and less one-dimensional. * If the game offered an Alternative to the old R2 "pass and move", the game should have variations for off-the-ball runs, and only...

yeah it sucks right.. But then again, disappointing products will have disappointed customers, it's a reality of life. And again, most fans criticizing the game just want it to be better, to be like it was before, a respected title. When they release a solid PES title, I'll make sure I leave...

I don't like to boast about my ability, but I'm actually very good at PES.. which is probably Why I tend to get bored easily with games like PES09 and FIFA. Anyways, like I said before, this is a thread for the positives about PES09.. I already mentioned the few "positives" I could find, as...

Completely agree.. I feel as though the game could and should educate people, maybe teach them a thing or two about Football, force them into playing realistically -instead- of just offering an easy and one-dimensional game that encourages one-dimensional play. I don't even think much of the...

I think that facts speak louder than words in this matter.. and Konami aren't fooling anyone. When "PSM3 Demands Reboot For PES Series" and "PES Sales Figures Make Depressing Reading" you know that PES is not in good shape. Would "PSM3" demand improvements if PES09 was any good?? I just think...

You should tell the same to Seabass, considering Seabass himself admitted that PES was "scripted" to some extent. I really don't see the necessity of saying "your dumb ideas" considering you clearly don't understand my opinion. And yes this "thread was meant to highlight the positive aspects of...