Maybe they should just have a simple
X Shoot
B Tackle
A Pass
Then everyone could be bored shitless and master the game in 2 mins
Do not buy pes 2012
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Maybe they should just have a simple
X Shoot
B Tackle
A Pass
Then everyone could be bored shitless and master the game in 2 mins
maybe they should call it monkey football then at least we can stop arguing and agree that its not football
christoph2011
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just go and play the fucking game, stop fucking wumming in here, you clearly havent anything constructive to say so fack off!!
WHY SHOULD I PLAY IT IF I DON'T LIKE IT???
WHY SHOULD YOU BE HERE IN MY THREAD IF YOU LIKE IT???
CONSTRUCTIVE? DID YOU BOTHER TO READ MY POSTS?
I stated what the problems of this game are... basically passing, dribbling, shooting, refereeing and goalkeeping... if you want me to elaborate more... go ahead ask more questions
christoph2011
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nothing wrong with passing, dribbling for me is fine, shooting a bit diff but i can live with that, referee i give you that one, i havent seen one mistake from any keeper infact theyve saved me on more than one occasion,
if your not playing the game any more why are still in here bitching about it, take it back get a refund/swap it?
if your not playing the game any more why are still in here bitching about it, take it back get a refund/swap it?
:doh: :doh: :doh: 
bamahmm:
bamahmm:
DRIBBLING IS FINE? ARE YOU INSANE?
Yeah like letting heskey go through your team time and time again is realistic and don't even think saying i suck at defending.
mate, if you watch real football, you'd know that a player can't keep the ball that close to themselves and cross with 99% accuracy. why on earth do players like vidic run at full speed with the ball close to themselves making swift turns. it might be fun to look at but it seriously isn't realistic
Yeah like letting heskey go through your team time and time again is realistic and don't even think saying i suck at defending.
mate, if you watch real football, you'd know that a player can't keep the ball that close to themselves and cross with 99% accuracy. why on earth do players like vidic run at full speed with the ball close to themselves making swift turns. it might be fun to look at but it seriously isn't realistic
having enjoyed the previous 2 demos and was like wow this seems back i hav played over 30 matches and this game aint like the demo and its staring to take its tollon me, what have they done to the shooting i have lost count now how many times am getting powder puff shots and others going nowhere near goal but loving the com's 25yrd grasscutter nearly evey game also seem to get booked alot when making tackle when i hac clearly won the ball. and what the fucks going on with the through balls which go nowhere ,am just raging as i loved demos and wont to love this game but the more and more am trying to get into it and play it the more and hating it
I agree. Although a little adjusting is necessary in all games.
Sure the game is fun once you learn how to play it, but learning how to play it means turning off your brain and just holding down buttons so konami does everything for you.
The amount of thoughtlessness and button mashing online is ridiculous. You don't even need to aim the joystick when attacking or defending!
In attack, just hold forward and watch passes "hone in" (their words) on players.
On defense, hold L2, R2, O, X, or some combination and watch konami make forwards outwork the ball and defend like Terry all over the pitch for 90 minutes. Watch midfielders cover every passing lane possible while sprinting and closing you down simultaneously.
Crossing?? Easily, the most retarded system in any sports game. Ever.
I used to feel like I had a part in the things I created in this series. Now everything feels like it is on a golden path.
PES: No Thinking Necessary.
Downloading the FIFA demo now....(And I expect to be just as disappointed)
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I will explain again what is wrong with PES and why I find it to be crap AGAIN for the people who did not read my earlier posts:
A. First and foremost the defense is very strange.
1. Defense still runs away from the attacker sometimes like in PES 2011. Defense positioning and movements are not effective. Defenders run behind attackers or by their sides leaving them wide open to the goal.
2. Marking is bad, one on one is bad (because of the new dribbling and speed).
3. Offside trap is bad, amateurs dont even do this.
4. Turning and accelerating with a bad player is way too slow compared to a top player, once you make the wrong move with the left stick then you can say good bye to the attacker because he will rocket past you.
5. Tackling is very hard and not realistic.
6. I have noticed that the defenses runs along side the attacker on the flank leaving the way towards the corner area free for the attacker to run and cross. It works everytime.
7. Defenders try to set an offside trap while it was already broken by an attacker on the corner line, he crosses the ball and my defenders rush forward setting an offside trap leaving the attacker to head it home...
8. Low crosses are lame and too effective. If it doesn't hit the attacker foot, it will for sure hit your defenders foot and voila... own goal
9. Many other types of strange own goals...
B. Game feel, strategies and pace.
1. Game feels awkward, the way the players pass shoot or move with the ball is not realistic. I am not talking about animations here, I am talking about feeling the ball against the player's foot, that great feeling we had in the old PES.
2. Strategies included in the game are silly, non effective and very few. We should feel a big change when we switch formations/strategies... Also we should have a wide variety of presets and tactics like 1-2-3 passes and some other user configured tactics like in NBA plays. But hey even if they add this now, it will not make a difference because the game play is fucked. They need to re-work it from scratch then apply new tactics.
3. The game pace is not realistic, it is indeed very fast but not just that also I have noticed that a team can apply high pressure on your defense all game long and keep running around chasing the ball like monkeys without even getting tired. To my surprise, it is my defenders who get tired and dizzy after all, real crap.
C. Goalkeeping
1. This is a very easy issue to fix yet I am shocked why Konami still did not improve the goal keeping, too many rebounds to the attackers feet to follow with a clear second shot on an empty net.
2. Keeper rushing to the attacker leaving the goal wide open, positioning of the rush is very wrong.
3. Keeper leaving the ball and running to his goal line when you hit a weak pass to the defenders, instead of keeper rushing to clear his mistake he just leaves the ball 1 meter away from him leaving the attacker who is 10 meters away take it and score.
D. Refereeing
1. Really no point explaining here as all of you agree on this crap...
E. Passing
1. Passing is not controlled by the gauge even if you keep your finger pressed to give it more power (that is in the assisted mode).
2. Unassisted mode is very crappy and hard to play.
3. Long through passes have improved but still you do not feel that if it free flowing, something still weird and wrong in the direction and the power of it.
4. Short through passes go all over the place, I've seen many of my easy through passes go to a defender... Not sure why though, very annoying.
F. Shooting
1. Shooting is not realistic to say the least, real crappy at times.
G. Dribbling
1. Already mentioned... no comment...
... I am sure I forgot some stuff, I might add them later... So dudes this game is not football, it is FIFAlized shitty commercial version of PES yet once again. We are in 2012 and still do not have a football game... :shocking: :no: :unsure: :w00t
A. First and foremost the defense is very strange.
1. Defense still runs away from the attacker sometimes like in PES 2011. Defense positioning and movements are not effective. Defenders run behind attackers or by their sides leaving them wide open to the goal.
2. Marking is bad, one on one is bad (because of the new dribbling and speed).
3. Offside trap is bad, amateurs dont even do this.
4. Turning and accelerating with a bad player is way too slow compared to a top player, once you make the wrong move with the left stick then you can say good bye to the attacker because he will rocket past you.
5. Tackling is very hard and not realistic.
6. I have noticed that the defenses runs along side the attacker on the flank leaving the way towards the corner area free for the attacker to run and cross. It works everytime.
7. Defenders try to set an offside trap while it was already broken by an attacker on the corner line, he crosses the ball and my defenders rush forward setting an offside trap leaving the attacker to head it home...
8. Low crosses are lame and too effective. If it doesn't hit the attacker foot, it will for sure hit your defenders foot and voila... own goal
9. Many other types of strange own goals...
B. Game feel, strategies and pace.
1. Game feels awkward, the way the players pass shoot or move with the ball is not realistic. I am not talking about animations here, I am talking about feeling the ball against the player's foot, that great feeling we had in the old PES.
2. Strategies included in the game are silly, non effective and very few. We should feel a big change when we switch formations/strategies... Also we should have a wide variety of presets and tactics like 1-2-3 passes and some other user configured tactics like in NBA plays. But hey even if they add this now, it will not make a difference because the game play is fucked. They need to re-work it from scratch then apply new tactics.
3. The game pace is not realistic, it is indeed very fast but not just that also I have noticed that a team can apply high pressure on your defense all game long and keep running around chasing the ball like monkeys without even getting tired. To my surprise, it is my defenders who get tired and dizzy after all, real crap.
C. Goalkeeping
1. This is a very easy issue to fix yet I am shocked why Konami still did not improve the goal keeping, too many rebounds to the attackers feet to follow with a clear second shot on an empty net.
2. Keeper rushing to the attacker leaving the goal wide open, positioning of the rush is very wrong.
3. Keeper leaving the ball and running to his goal line when you hit a weak pass to the defenders, instead of keeper rushing to clear his mistake he just leaves the ball 1 meter away from him leaving the attacker who is 10 meters away take it and score.
D. Refereeing
1. Really no point explaining here as all of you agree on this crap...
E. Passing
1. Passing is not controlled by the gauge even if you keep your finger pressed to give it more power (that is in the assisted mode).
2. Unassisted mode is very crappy and hard to play.
3. Long through passes have improved but still you do not feel that if it free flowing, something still weird and wrong in the direction and the power of it.
4. Short through passes go all over the place, I've seen many of my easy through passes go to a defender... Not sure why though, very annoying.
F. Shooting
1. Shooting is not realistic to say the least, real crappy at times.
G. Dribbling
1. Already mentioned... no comment...
... I am sure I forgot some stuff, I might add them later... So dudes this game is not football, it is FIFAlized shitty commercial version of PES yet once again. We are in 2012 and still do not have a football game... :shocking: :no: :unsure: :w00t
So what you trying to say?
if anybody has watched hannover vs bayern munchen today... typical PES 2012... the worse unlucky mother fucking game in the bundesliga this season and the worse ever referee... just similar to PES 2012
RED CARDS, PENALTIES AND OWN GOALS... ALONG SIDE CONTROLLING POSSESSION AND CREATING TONS OF CHANCES AND YOU END UP LOSING :doh::gunfire:
RED CARDS, PENALTIES AND OWN GOALS... ALONG SIDE CONTROLLING POSSESSION AND CREATING TONS OF CHANCES AND YOU END UP LOSING :doh::gunfire:
christoph2011
Registered User
pes 2012 is amazing, try super star mode, 0 speed, all assists off except for passing 3/4.
i find super star mode so much better, the games are much more open, and the cpu doesnt win all headers and actually makes mistakes, its much more equal. had some epic games earlier.
i find with this game you gotta build up play, be smart, pass the ball around, work your openings. every match is different its never the same.
i find super star mode so much better, the games are much more open, and the cpu doesnt win all headers and actually makes mistakes, its much more equal. had some epic games earlier.
i find with this game you gotta build up play, be smart, pass the ball around, work your openings. every match is different its never the same.
Marcus Wright
Registered User
The point is to make our complaints more visible so that at least next year they take a step in the better direction more aligned with our preferances.
dude, have you tried to play online? mmmkthanks :w00t
christoph2011
Registered User
fuck online, plus you have to pay for it on xbox no way.
I agree with christoph. Please try superstar and come back here to complain afterwards. It's so much more balanced. No more cpu coming back from being 3-0 down in the 80th minute. No more scoring on 9/10 free kicks. And shooting is much easier, for some reason! Now i can score long rangers that i've complained about the cpu doing for nearly a month now
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