GTA: San Andreas
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LiamK said:I don't have it yet, should be arriving on Monday (it'll be my FOURTH PS2 game)
It looks awesome and all, but does no-one else think the transition from 'Gangster' to 'Gangsta' makes the game lose some of it's appeal?
I mean, it's like gone from Scarface to Tupac. While I'm sure it'll still be a good game, I think it loses some the class that came with previous GTAs. I haven't played it, but the stereotype for the type of characters in the game (carefully stepping around the racial issue) is that the crime is not as 'organized' and rather just overblown gang wars.
Should still be a great game though, but does anyone else share these concerns?
I see that you are trying to "carefully step around the race issue" but you went and stamped right in it by even mentioning it. I don't think it was intentional on your part, but it's all good. I think the 'race issue' is quite comical. The way he starts out as saying "Yeah my brother" with his skinny vest and his bad haircut, and then as soon as you do some shopping, tatting, gangbanging and get a girlfriend he's like, "Bitch, Fuck you Nigga!" hahaha. I think Rockstar (like all their games- yes including Manturd) made this game with a huge element of ironical humor. I don't think the "class" or "glamour" levels have suffered by to me (as a huge fan of gangster movies), the last installment was corny as hell. It was like a weak Scarface and it was sooo predictable there was going to be a huge "Say 'ello to my lil friends" showdown from the top of a balcony at the end. I actually think this game is a lot classier. Take the first one, that was better than the second, this is similar to the first, but it's more hood and that gay justin timberlake looking fella isn't the main character anymore. You need to get on your game, get iced out, get a lowrider or a pitbull that bounces down the street, get some gangsta threads and cover yourself in tattoos and you'll see a different kind of class. Ghetto Fabulous. Class is relative, and the last GTA was full of eighties pop music and hawaiian shirts. Nuff said.
LiamK
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express said:
Forgot stepping around the issue, I'll go straight for it
The tank top wearing, cornrow sporting, AK47 wielding hoodlums that this game features are stereotypically uneducated and any rivalries tend to be ridiculously overblown gang wars.
I haven't played it yet, but I think I prefer the classier image of working for real mobsters out of their mansions and boats, rather than some hoodlum out of his shitty gaff out in some police-deprived neighbourhood which he shares with his mother, stepfather and 8 stepbrothers and sisters. It just seems more professional and organized and overall more fun.
I wasn't a huge fan of the hawaiian shirts or eighties pop in Vice City, but I think I'll prefer the overall gameplay and storyline of Vice City. I'm sure I'll still enjoy San Andreas, but I'd rather I was playing as some stylish mob soldier working his way up the chain, or something like that, rather than some Harlem living, drive by shooting, Fubu sporting hoodlum!
Scarface
The World Is Yours
I've had GTA:SA for 2 days now and i'm one the last couple of missions in Los Santos, its the 'Wrong Side Of The Tracks' mission and it is an absolutely terrible mission. I keep up with the train throughout the whole journey but Big Joke cannot shoot for shit, he kills a maximum of 2 gangsta's everytime, and he calls himself a gangsta!? I hope there's a chance to kill that dick later in the game cos he is really starting to piss me off now. Argh!!!
I have started taking over all rival gangsta's land, i must have around 85% of Los Santos land but can't get that Big Joke to learn to shoot the bastard.
I hope there's a chance to kill that dick later in the game cos he is really starting to piss me off now. Argh!!!I have started taking over all rival gangsta's land, i must have around 85% of Los Santos land but can't get that Big Joke to learn to shoot the bastard.
Travis Bickle
not to be taken seriously
LiamK said:Forgot stepping around the issue, I'll go straight for it
The tank top wearing, cornrow sporting, AK47 wielding hoodlums that this game features are stereotypically uneducated and any rivalries tend to be ridiculously overblown gang wars.
I haven't played it yet, but I think I prefer the classier image of working for real mobsters out of their mansions and boats, rather than some hoodlum out of his shitty gaff out in some police-deprived neighbourhood which he shares with his mother, stepfather and 8 stepbrothers and sisters. It just seems more professional and organized and overall more fun.
I wasn't a huge fan of the hawaiian shirts or eighties pop in Vice City, but I think I'll prefer the overall gameplay and storyline of Vice City. I'm sure I'll still enjoy San Andreas, but I'd rather I was playing as some stylish mob soldier working his way up the chain, or something like that, rather than some Harlem living, drive by shooting, Fubu sporting hoodlum!
It depends what you want. If you want a superior game in every department you'll love San Andreas its got better music, missions, graphics, side/mini games ( I was doing a "dancing game" style mission before ), theres a better feel to the cities they're alot bigger and alot more alive, theres gamblin', robbing houses, you can SKY DIVE, I think its alot better than Vice City. But if you're the sort of person that gets pissed off watchin' "Boyz in da Hood" and don't think its actually an alright film, you may not like the game, I think the "gangbangin'" is better for the game than the over-the-top "aah forget about it" American-Italian-wop-spaghetti-eatin-greasy gangster crap.
Scarface
The World Is Yours
Spoiler Alert!!
I managed at last today to complete the mission after numerous failings. There is no reason whatsoever for that dick to be on the bike with you, he is no help at all.
I passed the mission by keeping ahead of the train throughout, making sure i do not go too far ahead as then you fail the mission again, then went up that ridge where Big Joke says take the high road on the right CJ, i then went near to the end of the ridge got off the bike, and killed all the bastards myself with a machine gun. Then take the fat prick back home to munch some more donuts.
I am now around 20% complete according to the miscellanous stats, but i am finding the missions around the mount chiliad area extremely tiresome. The visuals are dull and repititive and the traffic is ridiculous, they are constantly crashing into me for no reason at all; it makes me have no alternative but to get out of the car and kill all the bastards in my way.
I am actually quite disappointed by this game; i have only had it for 48 hours but it does not offer much that Vice City didn't and has many flaws imo. I am just hoping that i get off this hideous mount chiliad area very soon and onto some more imaginative land or else i can see myself trading it in for Halo 2 next week. At the moment, i am finding this the most disappointing game i have ever experienced.
fatsooo25 said:
I managed at last today to complete the mission after numerous failings. There is no reason whatsoever for that dick to be on the bike with you, he is no help at all.
I passed the mission by keeping ahead of the train throughout, making sure i do not go too far ahead as then you fail the mission again, then went up that ridge where Big Joke says take the high road on the right CJ, i then went near to the end of the ridge got off the bike, and killed all the bastards myself with a machine gun. Then take the fat prick back home to munch some more donuts.
I am now around 20% complete according to the miscellanous stats, but i am finding the missions around the mount chiliad area extremely tiresome. The visuals are dull and repititive and the traffic is ridiculous, they are constantly crashing into me for no reason at all; it makes me have no alternative but to get out of the car and kill all the bastards in my way.
I am actually quite disappointed by this game; i have only had it for 48 hours but it does not offer much that Vice City didn't and has many flaws imo. I am just hoping that i get off this hideous mount chiliad area very soon and onto some more imaginative land or else i can see myself trading it in for Halo 2 next week. At the moment, i am finding this the most disappointing game i have ever experienced.
bish1
Himself
Reyes9 said:I managed at last today to complete the mission after numerous failings. There is no reason whatsoever for that dick to be on the bike with you, he is no help at all.
I passed the mission by keeping ahead of the train throughout, making sure i do not go too far ahead as then you fail the mission again, then went up that ridge where Big Joke says take the high road on the right CJ, i then went near to the end of the ridge got off the bike, and killed all the bastards myself with a machine gun. Then take the fat prick back home to munch some more donuts.
Wow...I done that mission first time, it was one of the easiest I've done, I don't see what all the big fuss was about. I've done most of the missions first time, only ones I had a little difficulty with was the last Big Smoke mission but I done that on the 2nd go and "OG Loc" when you have to chase the raging wufter on the motorbike.
Travis Bickle
not to be taken seriously
un-nicked said:
Sadly I think you missed the point. Have you heard the advert about the "gloryhole" themepark, or someit. It say's "Gloryhole, a place where strangers become friends". If you don't know what a gloryhole is, it's probable if you are under 18, hence do a check on the internet but you won't wanna do that if its your parents computer !! But I do think most of the jokes fly over you kids heads.
LiamK said:Forgot stepping around the issue, I'll go straight for it
The tank top wearing, cornrow sporting, AK47 wielding hoodlums that this game features are stereotypically uneducated and any rivalries tend to be ridiculously overblown gang wars.
I haven't played it yet, but I think I prefer the classier image of working for real mobsters out of their mansions and boats, rather than some hoodlum out of his shitty gaff out in some police-deprived neighbourhood which he shares with his mother, stepfather and 8 stepbrothers and sisters. It just seems more professional and organized and overall more fun.
I wasn't a huge fan of the hawaiian shirts or eighties pop in Vice City, but I think I'll prefer the overall gameplay and storyline of Vice City. I'm sure I'll still enjoy San Andreas, but I'd rather I was playing as some stylish mob soldier working his way up the chain, or something like that, rather than some Harlem living, drive by shooting, Fubu sporting hoodlum!
point taken man, and well put over. Point is though, what you are saying (with your race cards firmly on the table) is that you don't like the way blacks are being 'typecast' and stereotypically insulted, or you are saying that you don't want to be a black hero. Which is it? I think it's the latter. You can take exception to the word "hero" all you like, but every main character in rockstar games is a veritble piece of shit. That's what's so fun about them. Now if we are going to be a criminal for the course of the game, I'd personally rather be a real criminal rather than a mythical anglo itallian who dresses like fucking timmy mallet! Feel me? I know yardies half an hour away from my house who are just like CJ (not as extreme- but still). I guess I like this version because I've always been interested in hip hop in general. The stereotypical side is meant to be humor, that's what I already told you. The same way Tommy's speach was with Ray Liotta as the voice, it was supposed to be as corny as it was, as it this game. You need to get over your racial prejudices and stop pretending you have the interests of the black community at heart. It's just a game man, and an amazing one at that.
Zero
Administrator
Under 18s certainly shouldn't be playing this game. It's much worse then 3 and VC. Mainly because of the swearing, not that this bothers me. But when you go to pick it up from the store and you see 11 year olds getting their mothers to buy it, you know it's wrong.
There's also more drug use in this game then VC. In VC it was pretty obvious one guy was doing blow in one of the cutscenes, but didn't show it. In SA there's visible use of coke, weed and crack. I don't think kids should be seeing this kind of stuff.
It's still a fantastic game. One of the best I've ever played. It should be harder for under 18s to get their hands on it though.
There's also more drug use in this game then VC. In VC it was pretty obvious one guy was doing blow in one of the cutscenes, but didn't show it. In SA there's visible use of coke, weed and crack. I don't think kids should be seeing this kind of stuff.
It's still a fantastic game. One of the best I've ever played. It should be harder for under 18s to get their hands on it though.
joshkinny
Registered User
whats with all the moaning jesus christ why shud games even have age regulations on them kids still buy them and i bet most of the people moaning are bout 19 who most probably got there mum to buy gta 1 so der its only a game its for everyone to enjoy
and i am soory no time to waste i gotta do sum missions
and i am soory no time to waste i gotta do sum missions
Travis Bickle
not to be taken seriously
LiamK said:
But you were never doing stylish mobster-style missions. In Vice city you were doing drive-bys, selling drugs out the back of an icecream truck, running away from cops, its just they tried to make it stylish with the 80's Italian theme and went away from the "thug" roots of the original GTA.