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"I don't like PES'09" Hate it? Well let us know here and only here.

Dale C.

Registered User
lol this thread is unreal man


I dont mean this in a disrespectful way at all right, but why dont you go and join the fifa forums?

I hope that doesnt sound too harsh, but im just asking a regular question :)

And hammerhead, yeah i agree, master league rules the world and always will :D
 

trigglebeef

Registered User
look guys this is not a fifa pes discussion its a why i hate pes discussion so jog on onto the fifa forums and never come back here. i had fifa gets boring after a day oh look i can play online clubs wow everyone uses united and shoves ronaldo upfront oh look im ronaldo oh look i just scored im a noob

What would you say to a Fifa player who played PES for a day and then said it''s boring??? One day is not a satisfactory amount of form an objective viewpoint of a very deep game.
 

trigglebeef

Registered User
lol this thread is unreal man


I dont mean this in a disrespectful way at all right, but why dont you go and join the fifa forums?

I hope that doesnt sound too harsh, but im just asking a regular question :)

And hammerhead, yeah i agree, master league rules the world and always will :D

I'm on the Fifa forum. I just feel like my fellow PES diehards need to stop being so stubborn and realise that Fifa is awesome, for their own benefit.
 

Foxhound

Registered User
look guys this is not a fifa pes discussion its a why i hate pes discussion so jog on onto the fifa forums and never come back here. i had fifa gets boring after a day oh look i can play online clubs wow everyone uses united and shoves ronaldo upfront oh look im ronaldo oh look i just scored im a noob

It's a I hate PES2009 thread.

It's normal that FIFA is mentioned in this thread because members want to make comparisons between the two. Perhaps, the most commonly mentioned is, FIFA actually listened to the fans, while KONAMI didn't.
 

HH

Registered User
Over the years, Konami satisfied the fans and brought in so many of them with every edition. They mightve thought that they didnt need to listen to us and had a winning formula settled. Obviously in recent editions they havent made some progress.
 

muzza798

Registered User
The special thing about PES ML is that it boast its classic players which are a great rendition to a normal 'manager mode' in FIFA where computer generated players keep appearing. Jus love the classics from the old days.

Yh they were great as their stats went through the roof
 

historymaker

Registered User
Lol, this thread should be named 'Why I Love PES2009'. The ppl here who say they love Fifa sound like hired retards who were paid to boast about Fifa on this forum. This thread isnt called 'Why I like Fifa' so lets jus stick to the PES part.
 

S-D-P

Registered User
How good is fifa mate because i am tempted to get it.Have not played fifa since 1996 but i know all the guys that were on here from the "INSIGHT" days have switched over to fifa which was a suprise especially when they were hardcore pes gamers.Would it be a good gameplay wise as ps1 or 2 versions?

the more you like pes on ps2 when it was a true football simulation you will love this game. You play fifa like it is a real football match
 

jenicek68

Registered User
i think that each game got it's own power.. I feel that in almost everything is better fifa.. But in most important ones is the PES 2009 leader.. I like passing system and real look of fifa.. But dribbling, stoping and control of ball is much more sharp in pes, also manual passing is better in pes ( The way it works, though not looks as good as in Fifa). But where i dont like fifa and where was the pes king always is the atmosphere of the match.. Fifa is sometimes disturbing situation with too long waiting for cut scene, where after words coming Lampard, which doesn't even look like him and he is pretending to be sad or happy.. The feature where you can actualy celebrate in fifa is looking more strange then cool. Every match in Pes is somehow special and if you play for weaker teams, than that game is really taff chalenge, you really try to use special abilities of each player and all that is just what fifa needs to get, if they wanna try to chalenge PES.. But on the other hand is Fifa so massive, it got so much staff in it, lovely stadiums, lovely chants, nice smooth runing look..
 

byondthought

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is 2009 the begining of the end of real football on pes???

Pes was built on a fanbase of people who wanted to play a video game like a real game of football, we would look at fifa and see how easy it was to run through the whole pitch with one player and laugh at how unrealistic it was, it became the base's for alot of the arguement about what game was better..

There are 2 types of games players who play both pes and fifa, 2dimensional(pass,dribble, run run run, pass, shoot, repeat) and 3 dimensional(spreading play, moving ball around, varied attacking plays, using all the buttons etc) from the early days of pes the 2D players have been around, creating unrealistic formations always giving space for repetitive wing running play, very basic and boring. 2D players have always been at about 25% of the players.

With 2009 the % seems to have shot up to about 60% with new found power of dribble and turning seeming to go to peoples head. the easy way seems to be how people want to play, over dribbling in unrealistic repetitive ways that make the gameplay ridiculus and alot like the old fifa games...its soooo easy to play this way it actually takes the fun out the game for me and makes it sooo predictable to defend its boring..

with the 40% of us 2009 can offer some great games no doubt about it, however due to the stupid shit konami have done to make it play better online (LOL) the cpu has way too much control of the actually cursor players passing and movement it takes away some creative control and plays on rails too much.. great games but more are spoiled by bullshit bugs..2009 creates more situations where you dont have control (cpu taking over your player and freezing etc) sometimes it feels like your just a passenger..!!

its a computer game and people should play it how they want, some people just want to do the easy unrealistic 2D arcade play and no doubt those people will think pes2009 is the best game yet, it can offer that more than any other pes, and now can even do it in a more exciting way than fifa..if you play fifa this way it gets boring pretty quick..

I think that most people who are moaning on this thread like me are of the 3D 40%..our creative control has been reduced and there are more boring 2D players out there. it looks like Konami are now catreing more for these 2D players where fifa is tryin to go 3D....
 

trigglebeef

Registered User
I was playing fifa last night and have never been so involved in a football game in 20 years of playing them (including 16 ISS/PES titles). The more you play the more magical it becomes, quite the opposite to those who believe it gets boring quickly. Mastering manual controls, jostling, pace control and tricks, along with the simple things such as give and go's, shot/through ball timing etc. results in some sublime gaming. It makes me erect.
 

ezio

Registered User
I was playing fifa last night and have never been so involved in a football game in 20 years of playing them (including 16 ISS/PES titles). The more you play the more magical it becomes, quite the opposite to those who believe it gets boring quickly. Mastering manual controls, jostling, pace control and tricks, along with the simple things such as give and go's, shot/through ball timing etc. results in some sublime gaming. It makes me erect.

Maybe I should have spent more time with it :) I rented it and thought it was ok but still prefered PES. I keep hearing if you can master manual controls it adds another layer. Not sure I will do that since I enjoy PES.
 

jenicek68

Registered User
I felt like that too.. But response and the control of the player wasn't accurate. Also it is pretty taff to score some nice goal in fifa, so after while it's pushing you to score very similar goals.. And than I have just deside to go back to PES.. :unsure:
 

bwfcste

Registered User
Hello all. Well Pes 2009. What a load of CRAP!!! Got my 360 this chrsitmas and couldnt wait to play pes. Im so so so so disappointed. Its aweful. it moves funny, it sounds rubbish. The game has never really got better since pes5 which imo is still the best. Its LAZY.

im going to fifa which in itself has flaws... but not like pes.. im that gutted im gonna trade it in. bye bye pes. we had some great times. but i have finally lost patience ;-(.. you cant even play as the cpu teams in 2 player cups etc anymore. why the hell would i want to play the computer! come on konami...PULL YOUR FINGER OUT!!!!
 

byondthought

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I felt like that too.. But response and the control of the player wasn't accurate. Also it is pretty taff to score some nice goal in fifa, so after while it's pushing you to score very similar goals.. And than I have just deside to go back to PES.. :unsure:

yup thats what i thought after the first week of playing it..!! fifa still frustrates me but its mostly due to my own lack of skill..!!! it all depends how you want to play a football game really..

it can push you to pass the ball all the way back to the defence..!!!
 

WEFORLIFE

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I bought WE2009 in the first day of launching. Couldn't wait to play. But after play it until now, I decide not to play anymore. The stupid problems in the game really annoy me and my friends. the AI is really fucking retarded. really feel so so so so dissapointed!!!!! Konami betray us!
 
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