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Latest WE8 Screens and Info + Box Cover!

Alberto Tomba

Registered User
Man the grass still looks like inlayed carpet! It has that clean look still. Konami have to bring back the grass from gamecube's WE6:FE cuz at least that looked marginally better.
 
I know what you mean, the turf and nets are utter shit - Ive said it all along and people used to say "its impossible to make it look the turf and nets any more realistc on the ps2 hardware" - then football kingdom came out.

This game could be a real fucking let down after all. :( Since when did all football matches take place on green carpets :mad:
 

t1000v2.0

Registered User
As for those shots, you cant really see the lighting effects, you cant see the game on the screen so well not to mention colours. The grass wont bother me much, as long as the graphics are crisp and smooth, and there is enough detail, that'll keep me happy.

Jumbo, you still don't seem to get it, and you are speaking very patronisingly towards people, if you have an opposing view, by all means air it, but don't come across like your opnion is the be all and all of the matter, cos it's not. Also you keep telling people to get their heads out of their ass, infact I make it more that it's probably the other way round, as you are too quick shoot your mouth off before knowing exactly what it is you are talking about. And to answer your q about it being all about names, its not about the names, its about the idea, the concept.
 

Alberto Tomba

Registered User
Cristiano! said:
I know what you mean, the turf and nets are utter shit - Ive said it all along and people used to say "its impossible to make it look the turf and nets any more realistc on the ps2 hardware" - then football kingdom came out.

This game could be a real fucking let down after all. :( Since when did all football matches take place on green carpets :mad:

Well Madden Football or ESPN NFL 2k5 have better grass even.And those two games are dev using the PS2 engine.
yeah i totally agree on football kingdom. I am quite happy with that game. actually i think it's amazingly well done for a first time effort. They(Namco)have a good thing going..
 

larsson

Administrator
jumbo said:
It's all about the names. It's really all about the names. All about the names. Do names really make that much difference to you? Will they make your playing experience worse? N-a-m-e = That's "name". English word for something you call a person not more than that................

So I guess you´re playing without any patches or Option files, with fake names and appearances, right ? Just wanna know.
 

Raven9

Registered User
rkinder said:
Whoever said that the Japanese and koreans or "yellow skinned sons of.. something bad" as you called them, you racist idiot, dont know about football, the youre a fool. They make this game ebcause they love it. Sure it might be a bit different in terms of the way atmosphere is portrayed, but then again, the crowds still make a hell of a lot of noise at J-league games and so on. It is merely something that wasnt done right yet, thats all. Give them a break. And as for not understanding the game, how did korea perfrom so well in the world cup? Luck? No. They clearly love the game, at any rate, for the same reasons we do.

Its great to see licenses. A bit sad that its year old kits in Serie A and El Primera or whatever its called, but it wont bother me too much. I just think its stupid, thats all, and really dumb of the leagues. Short sighted, and money grabbing. I just hope to god that the premier league gets in ebcause that would be ace.

And does anyone know if the custom leagues will be able to have more than 16 teams this time round? After Id flawlessly (!) created the premiership win PES3, only then did I remember you could only have a league with 16 teams! It seemed a really pointless limitation to me, so hopefully they'll rectify it.

As far as I'm concerned, if they keep the basis the same and improve it all it'll be amazing. But I always worry that adding new tricks and so on isnt what PES is about, thats FIFA territory - its like in real life, all pro footballers can do great ball skills compared to us - but only those who are cocky or genius know how and when to use them in games. So in PES3 I hardly eer used the skill things as such, because you dont need them to be good. Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised about that in PES3 - they were quite hard to perform and were rarely that effective anyway, unlike in fifa rubbish. The 360 turn had to be executed so well to skin people that it was hardly bothered with in a game - like in real life. So.. I still have so much faith in konami. I really, really hope they keep the basic ideals and stuff in place, which have always made it better than FIFA. And i just hope tehy dont mess up, because its shaping up to be the best game ever right now!
:cool: You didn´t got the point... Racist? Me? You would laugh if you knew me... Chill out. In a couple of years , you´ll get the point. Say no more,if you know even less :)
 

Lami

#1 Stunner
cmon people stop all the un-necessary arguing about a game thats not even out yet! We all know that Konami always improves the game. And we all know that we will continue to play the game. Thats how it always was and will always be. The info we got are impressing enough. So lets just save our arguments till after we play the game and have enough experience :)
 

jamez

Calcio Agriculturus
jumbo said:
Generating new players = adding more players = adding more data.

Chagning only stats for existing players = not adding any players = no data added, only changed.

Didn't somone already explain that the only thing the new players coming back will have with the old ones will be their names? That's it. They will diff stats, play diff positions, etc.

But surely if every retired player is replaced by one young player then there is no net increase in the amount of data. It could bring back zidane for example, keep his stats but change his name and let the CPU give him a random appearance. Then the old zidane is wiped off the slate.

Surely a small database of names could be incorporated, otherwise regeneration is very unrealistic.
 

Lami

#1 Stunner
but y the big deal jamez? weve always been playin with the same players the whole time and no one mentioned anything back then about it. now when retiring and regeneration is added everybodys annoyed? weird. if it werent added then we wudve been playin the same old system again. its just similar to the older system, but in a different creative manner.
 

jumbo

Registered User
larsson said:
So I guess you´re playing without any patches or Option files, with fake names and appearances, right ? Just wanna know.

What, me?

No, I'm playing with patches.

Before I got my modded system, I was playing WE6 with fake names, etc.

Did it matter to me? No, the gameplay was the best ever.
 

jumbo

Registered User
Cristiano! said:
Bloody well said Larsson and t100 - this guy really takes the biscuit. Do you work for Konami or something?

No, I don't work for KONAMI.

I just find playing the game more fun than moaning about it.

No good in moaning now. The game is finished, will be shipping in 2 weeks.

Ok, the system ain't great but what can we do now? Nothing. I'm just trying to look at the positive side of things and learn to live with it...

"Takes the biscuit"... :rolleyes: You peeps really are a weird nation. :p :D
 

MattShez

PPL Manager
Dont woory i dont think Konami are stupid enough that they bring out a horrible feautre into the game, it might not be so bad!

C'mon they created the Winning Eleven and Pro Evolution series!!!
 

GFK

Registered User
larsson said:
Was it so hard then to give this new Zidane another name ? And (almost) everyone would be happy. And like you said, it´s possible that the players come back on the same position and with the same appearance.
Well I will change the age for all players to the lowest possible setting before playing, this should give me at least 15 seasons without retiring :D

You know I dont really care about the same Names? Just use your imagination. Maybe you can change the names only. Although I dont think it will be possible. But like I said if you use your imagination its not that hard for me. And if Zidane come bakc with the same appearance and stats that sucks indeed. But I hope it will not happen that often, only once in 7 seasons or some? And I hope its gonna happen in the 7th season then, cause i dont play ML longer then 4 years I guess. :)
But if Zidane comes back as a Defender I dont have a problem with it really, I care more about the amount of boots. :):)

German said:
Well I will change the age for all players to the lowest possible setting before playing, this should give me at least 15 seasons without retiring :D

This is ofcourse a witty comment, cause you know you cant edit players for ML...
 
If Zidane comes back at all then it completely removes the point of the player retiring in the first place.

What a load of horse shit :( we shouldnt be arguing right now, it should be a time of excitement. But why do Konami release news like this which puts a downer on everything. Do they even ask the fans whether they would like such and such a feature, or do they just throw it in and see what happens, from the looks of it, I'd go very much with the latter.
 

GFK

Registered User
Yes thats true, but you will never get the same Zidane again. Its always a suprise how the new Zidane is going to develop, maybe it will be a shit player...
 

Mez

Registered User
Why don't they do what CM of past used to do and mix retired players names. Roy Keane and Zidane retire.

New players:

Zindene Keane
Roy Zidane
 

larsson

Administrator
GFK said:
This is ofcourse a witty comment, cause you know you cant edit players for ML...

No, you can, just not with the ingame editor possibly, if you change it on the PC and then burn to DVD then the things from the DVD will be loaded. Think about it. Plus no one said you can´t change the players appearance and age for the ML, just the stats.

jumbo said:
Ok, the system ain't great but what can we do now? Nothing. I'm just trying to look at the positive side of things and learn to live with it...

Yeah, and we´re doing the same, but we don´t see any positive aspects in this feature, and this thread is dedicated to discussions about the news, so it´s ok to post everything which comes into your mind about it.
 

GFK

Registered User
Yes that has been mentioned several times, its indeed very simple but also effective..
Its the solution to this problem, but he Konami is one of the strangiest companies I know...,
 
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