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My rough guide to: Graphics cards and PES3

t1000v2.0

Registered User
I guess you are using integrated graphics if its with the motherboard which when it comes to gaming is a complete no no. 5600FX was quite flawed actually, still an ok card, but for a little extra you could get 9600pro which is a better more stable card, a couple of good deals on Radeon 9600 128mb:

http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/components/graphicscards/productView.htm?quicklinx=2LJM

http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/components/graphicscards/productView.htm?quicklinx=2NXZ

http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=119625&cks=PRL (256mb version)
 

yonson99

Registered User
I can't decide between an ATI Radeon 9600 XT, or nVidia GeForce FX5700 Ultra. Benchmark tests and prices are about the same, but since I would mostly be playing PES3, is one of these more suited (or better supported by Konami) for PES3 than the other?
 

t1000v2.0

Registered User
Well I think I have noticed that Radeon cards have worked better with PES3..not toally sure on that, but i think thats the case.
 

yonson99

Registered User
thanks. i think i would go for the ati. i just need to find 100 quid now. and then convince my girlfriend that we need a new graphics card more than we need food or to pay bills....
 

yonson99

Registered User
i managed to borrow a geforce 4200 ti off a friend, which works excellently, except that there is a strange kind of heat-haze effect across the middle of the screen, so the image appears to 'wobble' in the middle....any ideas what this could be? refresh rates or some graphics setting that can be turned on/off?
 

t1000v2.0

Registered User
yeah, something to do with V-snyc if i remember correctly, if you have that turned on in your control panel turn it off, it should correct it.
 

yonson99

Registered User
i increased the refresh rate and that seemed to solve it. i was running in 60Hz for some reason.
Thanks for the help! Again!
 

freddy8

Registered User
Hi,i want to know how to activate the AA...please.
I have a ati radeon 9000,so graphics ain't that great,any help would do!!! :p :)
 

freddy8

Registered User
found out where to adjust the aa and af but after i did that the game is now slower.
On what resolution would u say is the best to run pes3 on my system?
p4;ati radeon 9000;256 mb of ram;2.39 ghz

please give me advice! :confused:
 

ghoul.ck

Registered User
right i have a 9800 pro, 512 DDR kingston pc2700, and 2.6 amd.

There is no way i can turn AA or AF on, i play with vsync on and trueform and get great frame rates with everything on max with NO slowdown at all, as soon as i turn AA and AF on its like lag city,.

Freddy i used to have a 9000 with similar specs but with 512 ram, best to leave it all to default on the card, set refreash rate to optimal on 800 x 600 resolution. Hope this helps.
 

GaryDAwson

Registered User
Many Thanks

:cool:
t1000v2.0 said:
Thanks for this. I have had PES for the PS2 for ages but bought it yesterday for PC and whilst it loads the game runs extremely slowly.

I am going to have ago at starting with a clean boot as I have lot of hardware connected to my pc but I think it will be the GC at the end of the day.

T1000's rough guide to - Video Cards and PES3

Alot of people seem to be having problems with running PES3 on their PCs, which has given me an idea to write up a little guide on the cards that are likely to work well and those that will hardly get the game to run. I have seen many people ask a question about slowdown etc and then say they are using a card which is by no way supported by the game. So this is just a rough guide and not meant as a concise guide on video cards, so don't look into this religiously, it's just to give you an idea of what kind of performance to expect with certain bands of cards.

The lowest end cards which WILL NOT run the game This is the Conference division of graphics card.....ok it's more like a graveyard.

Anyone owning a:

RivaTNT
Matrox G400 or below,
Voodoo 3
Radeon 7500
Nvidia Geforce 2 ti/mx
or anything lower than these cards, do not even attempt to run the game, as they are totally unsupported.

I am going to divide most of the available compatable cards into 3 groups or classes, Class C-A

C class cards


Radeon 8500/9200
Nvidia Geforce 3 titanium
Nvidia Geforce 4 Mx 440
Nvidia FX 5200

These cards are the absolute bare minimum with which you can expect some performance. Even the rate of performance is not fixed as it depends on the rest of your system stats. You will probably get low quality, and low res 640x480 or 800x600 with no Anti Aliasing and or Anisotropic filtering. If you own any of these cards and are having problems go into control panel and turn down all your peformance enhancements or find the driver that gives you best peformance (it's not always the latest ones!)

B Class cards

Nvidia Geforce 4 Titanium 4200/4400 64/128mb
Nvidia Geforce FX 5600
Radeon 9500/9600 pro/9600 XT

These cards should run the game quite well, considering you have atleast 512mb of ram, and a CPU of atleast 1.6ghz. Expected resoluton would be 800x600 medium/high detail or 1024x768 low/medium. You may be able to take very basic levels of AA and AF, provided you have lots of ram and a top grade CPU.

A Class cards (The premier League)

Nvidia Geforce 4 Titanium 4600/4800
Nvidia Geforce FX 5800/5900 ultra 128mb/256mb
Radeon 9700/9700 pro 128mb
Radeon 9800/9800 pro/9800 XT 256mb

These cards shoud play the game with all the thrills on. 1024x768 res or higher, high detail with 4x/6x AA and 4/8/16x AF. Let's face it, if you have any of these cards then you are likely to have a good setup for gaming as regards to the rest of your pc. Usually if there are probs running the game with these cards then its likely to be a driver issue or something else, but not a hardware one.


Upgrading your card

This can be tricky. Do not buy into the myths spouted by certain retailers of video cards telling you anything, just to make a sale. Certain stores are over priced, over hyped and basically will con you to the heavens if you do not know a little about selecting a card. Avoid like the plague anything that is in the c class. I have been shocked to see that some of these cards are still selling at ridiculous prices. The one people get caught out with is the Geforce 4 MX. Geforce 4 sounds better than a geforce 2 or a geforce 3 right?.....wrong. It's core is still a Geforce 2 ti and is not a watered down GF4 Ti like what you can be made to believe.

The card of choice which comes just around £100 or a little over is the Radeon 9600. A great all round card with bags of peformance. This should be the target if you have a budget. If money is no obsticle...go for the beast, 9800 XT. Look around on the internet too. A few good websites for pc hardware are:

www.dabs.com/uk
www.komplett.co.uk
www.simply.co.uk



Finally, if you have any questions about anything in this guide, please post them up in this thread. BUT If you own one of those "obselete" cards.....I will have to track you down, rip the card out of your pc, throw it out of your window, then walk over to it, and press down hard with my size 8s until I hear a most satisfying crunch.

Happy PES3ing!!



T1
 

wshin

Registered User
I just bought a 9500 pro for 81$ on ebay... i believe this is older, but better card then the 9600 pro... am I correct?

or will i run into problems when i beef up the resolution?

currently i have 9000 pro which i played WE7I half way decent... on 1024x768 with high detail and a bit of lag once in a while...

This is my spec:

Intel P4 1.7Ghz
256 MB RAMBUS
 

t1000v2.0

Registered User
Yes you are right, 9500 pro is a better card which was phased out due to higher manufacturing costs. The 9600 replaced it as it was easier to make and can retail for less. The 9500pro had twice the number of pixel pipelines, which basically meant it could render graphics slightly quicker. Although there has been some advances since the 9600 has been out with the XT which is a really good card and with a 256mb version which the 9500 didnt have. But you shouldn't have any problems with a 9500, so thats a good buy!
 

wshin

Registered User
t1000v2.0 said:
Yes you are right, 9500 pro is a better card which was phased out due to higher manufacturing costs. The 9600 replaced it as it was easier to make and can retail for less. The 9500pro had twice the number of pixel pipelines, which basically meant it could render graphics slightly quicker. Although there has been some advances since the 9600 has been out with the XT which is a really good card and with a 256mb version which the 9500 didnt have. But you shouldn't have any problems with a 9500, so thats a good buy!

sweet! thanks for the info~!!! :D :D
 

jordihorta

Registered User
so I have a geforce fx5200, could it be the reason that my PC crashes when playing PES3? it is hard to cope with that, as the game says it is enough...
so then should I buy a better one? and then should I increase my RAM to 512?
this game is going to send me to bankruptcy...
 

t1000v2.0

Registered User
LOL well a 5200 with a little more ram may slightly increase performance, but not much. There is no substitute for a good vid card to be honest. radeon 9600 pros/XT are still the ones to get and arent too badly priced now days £70-£100 (possibly cheaper on ebay!) have a look around.
 

Mark74

Registered User
Problems after new driver install

I installed the 61.77 driver for my Nvidia Geforce FX 5900.
But it made it worser than before.
I used to have a little stuttering, but not much.
No its more than before.
I play in 1074-768 res.
And everything high.

I own a P4 2.8GHZ
512 Ram.
Geforce FX 5900 VTD 128

What can i do to get it running better.
I think i have a good computer that shouldnt have these problems.

Greetings.
 
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