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Official PES3 Impressions Thread - Tell us what you think...

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jag87

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I love the game. its amazing! My impression is that its really good! :p
 

wixon

Registered User
Just been playing pes3 final version round my mates house:

The speed of the game is just right, not too fast and not too slow. The weak headers that were present in WE7 have been corrected. The stutter problem that was present on the beta version and on the demo has completely gone. Seems to be harder than WE7 aswell as im finding even 3* ( :( ) a bit challenging. The game seems to flow better aswell.

Overall: This is the best PES/WE game ever. If you were put off buying pes3 by the sub standard demo you should still get this as it is about 10 times better. The demo doesn't do pes3 justice at all. This is the best football game ever!!!
 

Zygalski

Administrator
Couple of nights ago I won the world cup with England (on my first attempt) with England - with a bit of style too. Gave France a 2-0 headstart in the semi and managed to win it with a silver goal.

Last night I tried a world cup with Wales. Results were 0-0, 0-1 and 0-1. Gutted. Wales suck big time!

Today, I played as Madrid. In a ten minute Konami Cup match against Ajax, Raul scored 5 goals. All 5 were headers, 4 from high Figo crosses and one from a Beckham corner. Raul was on a yellow arrow and Figo was on a blue. It finished 6-1. Some of the headers shouldn't have gone in but just managed to creep in. One was from the edge of the area and went into the top right corner of the goal. Maybe headers are a little too easy?
I'm scoring a header from a corner in pretty much every single match I'm playing in these days (except for Wales!).
 

PicturePerfect

Registered User
Headers in WE7 were quite a considerable change from FE and PES2, and quite hard to master at first but I think I've pretty much nailed it down now although I'm still not perfect.

Sad to hear that Zyg. It seems the complaints Konami got from WE7 probably pushed them to make the heading easier, maybe too easy (when have they done that before :rolleyes: ). Sigh. :(
 

Zygalski

Administrator
But then again, Raul's stat for heading is 91 - but his jumping is 70-something. Maybe if we reduce the heading stats for all players, it could be more realistic?
 

PicturePerfect

Registered User
Like the ones we could get from ShowUsMiracle? Yeah, that would probably work. I've heard suggestions of people wanting to do that for the speed of players in PES3 too as supposedly it's too fast.
 

poidz

Registered User
just been playin the final version here down under, comparisons made to pes3 beta. i can see where kezz is coming from, the player animations (especially in the way in which they run) do look a little fast but the overall pace of the game is quite good. as i said i cant compare to WE7 but it seems the same pace as the demo. also headers seem a bit to easy and probably at least half of my goals are headers either from free play or from corners/set pieces. This might be due to the fact that the AI seems to defend much tighter in and around the box making it harder to play through the middle, although possible.

on a different note, has anyone else noticed that they have tweaked the advantage, probably 9/10 of mine are correctly given and actually make a good decision.
also handball doesnt seem to be given as often, and i can actually run the commentry now to see when it is given for handball ;)

anyways these r just my impressions with the final versions, personally i love the game (sofar) it seems quite challenging on 3 stars (only been playing random club/intnl. teams and now a intnl. cup with brazil). kezz and whoever else can conclude what they want, u will only really know if u love/hate it when ur playin the game urself :D
 
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wixon

Registered User
PicturePerfect said:
Like the ones we could get from ShowUsMiracle? Yeah, that would probably work. I've heard suggestions of people wanting to do that for the speed of players in PES3 too as supposedly it's too fast.

I found that the speed is the same as in the beta version which was just right. As for the headers, they are a bit easy. If you send in a half decent cross you will most likely score.
 

gaza1725

Registered User
Glad to see most of ya are giving the final version good reviews many ppl are saying its harder than we7 even with the headers being easyer .
I could win the world cup just about every attempt on we7 on 5* with england but ive only managed 2 out of 5 on pes3 , maybe the more i play it things will change :rolleyes:.
 

ale nesta 13

Registered User
Most stupid thing I ever heard

Zygalski said:
"They killed PES3!"
Doesn't sound too good. :( :eek: :confused:


Gaz, paczoz00 and everyone else who has the real final version of PES3 (not the beta), feel free to let us know what you think of the game. Compare with WE7 if possible. Cheers.


I got the final version on friday 10/10, and have won all the cups by now, so u can say i have played my share.
The stuff that this guy writes i totally ridicolous.
First of all the stutter bug is gone, so either he has got a fucked up version of the game, or his PS2 is running for it's last hour

I have played all the games in the PES - and WE - series, and PES3 is without any doubt the best game, and it beats it's predecessors big time.

By the way haven't you seen the reviews?????
The guy who wrote this stuff on the link above can't know anything!!!!!!

here are some review scores:

• Level 7/pes.nu: 9+ of 10
• Metro 5 of 5
• Slitz 5 of 5
• Gon: 6 of 6
• British OPS2: 10 of 10
• British PS2M: 96 of 100
• French PlayScope: 9 of 10

Review average is: 97%



And yes that is just how much PES3 should be appreciated.... even tough I would give it 110 of 100:)
 
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jag87

Guest
ale nesta 13 said:
I got the final version on friday 10/10, and have won all the cups by now, so u can say i have played my share.
The stuff that this guy writes i totally ridicolous.
First of all the stutter bug is gone, so either he has got a fucked up version of the game, or his PS2 is running for it's last hour

I have played all the games in the PES - and WE - series, and PES3 is without any doubt the best game, and it beats it's predecessors big time.

By the way haven't you seen the reviews?????
The guy who wrote this stuff on the link above can't know anything!!!!!!

here are some review scores:

• Level 7/pes.nu: 9+ of 10
• Metro 5 of 5
• Slitz 5 of 5
• Gon: 6 of 6
• British OPS2: 10 of 10
• British PS2M: 96 of 100
• French PlayScope: 9 of 10

Review average is: 97%



And yes that is just how much PES3 should be appreciated.... even tough I would give it 110 of 100:)

Its pretty fair to say that.. People like Pro Evo 3!!. THe offical PS2 magazine is the best reviewer and they gave it 10/10! Either way, im still gonna get it!
 

PicturePerfect

Registered User
ale nesta 13 said:
I got the final version on friday 10/10, and have won all the cups by now, so u can say i have played my share.
The stuff that this guy writes i totally ridicolous.
First of all the stutter bug is gone, so either he has got a fucked up version of the game, or his PS2 is running for it's last hour

I have played all the games in the PES - and WE - series, and PES3 is without any doubt the best game, and it beats it's predecessors big time.

By the way haven't you seen the reviews?????
The guy who wrote this stuff on the link above can't know anything!!!!!!

here are some review scores:

• Level 7/pes.nu: 9+ of 10
• Metro 5 of 5
• Slitz 5 of 5
• Gon: 6 of 6
• British OPS2: 10 of 10
• British PS2M: 96 of 100
• French PlayScope: 9 of 10

Review average is: 97%



And yes that is just how much PES3 should be appreciated.... even tough I would give it 110 of 100:)

You have to remember what Kezz said was opinion and so are reviews. I can't speak for the other reviews but I know for a fact the British magazines there can't really be trusted. If you read their reviews, it's quite clear that they're reviewing a BETA version of the game, and if you remember Kezz mentioned it was last minute changes that had ruined the game for him.

Anyway, I'll not saying anything until I've played the game more.
 

PicturePerfect

Registered User
jag87 said:
THe offical PS2 magazine is the best reviewer and they gave it 10/10!

You really think so? I find them appalling. Sure, their features are aplenty and they get some exclusives because of their postition, but generally, I find their reviews and articles appalling.

If I were to pick, I'd take PSW or possibly EDGE over them anyday.
 

Zygalski

Administrator
PES3 Impressions of the day:

You can't make the latest Fulham black/white kit properly but almost all the others are in there.

Roma are a bunch of tall b**tards! Giants I tell thee!! :)
 

gaza1725

Registered User
wixon said:
Evo web have just posted their review of pes3.

read it here: http://www.evo-web.co.uk/games.proevolutionsoccer3.review.shtml

pretty much mirrors my thoughts on the game.

Ill second that review (most of it) but i aint got any stutter whatsoever (my ps2 is pretty new though) and i certainly wouldnt give it no more or no less than pes2.
Pes3 is like a merc compaired to skoda against pes2 :p
And overall in my opinion is an improvemnt on we7 anyways thanks for posting the link wixon ;)
 

baggie-1

Registered User
PESFan Review

PESFan Review:

Pro Evolution Soccer 3

Publisher: Konami
Developer: KCETyo
Formats: PS2 & PC CD-Rom (confirmed)

“Some people are on the pitch; they think its all over, it is now” proclaimed Kenneth Wolstenholme back in 1966 as England went on to World Cup Glory.

The Official release of Pro Evolution Soccer 3 on October 17th will ensure that it is truly all over for any potential pretenders to the Football Gaming throne and will no doubt add many more admirers to an already highly respected title.

PES Ultras and Aficionados will notice the variety of improvements straight away and will undoubtedly be highly impressed with the accomplished work of KCETs finest.

Using the FIFpro license once again Konami have ensured that many real footballers appear in game and this provides that extra element of realism. Some see a potential setback in the fact that the official kits and licenses aren’t universal within the game; others though will see this as an opportunity to express some creative talent and customise the game, as they want it. Nearly everything can be edited on players including hairstyles and boots, whilst the Kit Editor and Badge Editor allow you to produce highly accurate recreations of your favourite club sides crest or third strip.

For European fans of Pro Evolution Soccer the usual language variations apply with specific commentators and co-presenters being used for the relevant language.
Most notably, Konami have opted to use former World Cup Winner and French International Stephane Gui’varch for the French version, whilst followers of La Liga will recognise Marcas Guillem Balague and Swansea striker Roberto Martinez on the Spanish version.

The game play has been improved and tweaked since the release of its Japanese counterpart, Winning Eleven 7, in early August. The extra time between the release of WE7 and PES3 has ensured that the European version of the game is one step ahead and that any little bugs have been ironed out for its transfer to PAL. It would be wrong though to assume that the game is a straight switch from NTSC to European compatible format as PES3 is a much better game and the extra time spent on its development really shows.

The Aesthetics & overall look of the game has also been improved to give Pro Evolution Soccer 3 a visually stunning finish. With 80% of the in-game animation being renewed for the hat-trick title it is clearly evident that this is the most detailed and definitive game in the history of the series.

The New Graphics Engine used by the development team provides Pro Evolution Soccer 3 with an enormous amount of detail meaning that players not only look realistic but their movement is also extremely lifelike down to the smallest detail. For example, facial expressions change and reactions of players vary depending on the situation giving them the ability to express pleasure, joy or dicontent.

The popular Master League has been improved by giving us 4 divisions instead of the usual 3 and also providing the chance to take part in European competition mid season thanks to an ever increasing number of club teams available to choose from.

The computer AI within the PES3 has also been improved to create a more competitive game as they can adapt to your specific style of play. This means that variation of players’ tactics and strategies is even more important than ever. Attacking players can now also drag defenders away to create space and offer other opportunities to score. Skills and tricks have also been added and can be performed to perfection by players with higher ratings thus recreating the general balance and diversity of the footballing world. So, someone like Zinedine Zidane or Luis Figo is more likely to successfully use the 360’ spin than someone with less ability. Shooting has been vastly improved and players are now capable of hitting a stunning volley or a powerful first time strike. Goalkeepers are more animated and harder to beat and they are capable of producing some superb saves. Injured players are now bandaged up to allow them to continue to play but the more seriously hurt are carried off on a stretcher. Dribbling is smoother and that jinking run can now allow you to beat 2-3 players in a confined space.

The general appearance of the menus is a lot more simplistic and allows for easier manoeuvrability around the various screens and subsections of each mode or options within the game.

The introduction of the PES Shop allows players to buy extra features thus placing more emphasis on the result of every game that is played. It is therefore quite important to win matches as points are gained for victories in all games ranging from Friendlies to the Konami Cup. The in-game currency, known as PES, can be traded for new stadiums, more players, additional teams and even classic style shorts and a variety of hairstyles.

The addition of several new stadiums such as the Red Cauldron (Anfield) and the Blue Bridge (Stamford Bridge) provides even more arenas for players to display their skills. The crowd too play a much more important part in match proceedings and will vent their discontent at a losing streak by staying away meaning that your home ground could appear half empty.
Bigger and more successful teams will also see more supporters turn out to watch their matches in comparison to a smaller club. The fans on the terraces now also get more enthusiastic as the play approaches goal and they also change clothes depending on the weather.

Pitches and Conditions now play a bigger part within PES3 aswell. Some pitches play faster than others and this helps provide end to end high tempo matches, others though are slow meaning that a more methodical build up takes precedence as the ball wont just zip around the turf. Playing in the Rain is also a challenge as the conditions become more unpredictable and this too slows the game down. These coupled with the differing playing styles of each Club & National Team help to ensure the realism within the modern game of football is transfered succesfully onto the PS2.

There are now sixteen different Referees to choose from ensuring a different style to every game. Some now play the advantage rather than blow for a foul whilst others are not so lenient and have no hesitation in producing a yellow card or sending a player off. The variety in the styles of referees now also ensures that all decisions are not 100% accurate and that a foul may not necessarily be a foul and that disallowed goal may not have actually been offside.

The differing skill levels ranging from 1* beginner to Extreme mode provide a greater challenge for the Established Star & Youth Player alike and help to ensure the longevity of what should become a classic title. All these excellent features help to portray a more realistic simulation of the game of Football.

KCET have successfully risen to the annual challenge laid down by the FIFA series and TIF (This is Football) by providing us with the finest football game to appear on any format in the history of gaming. Pro Evolution Soccer 3 yet again sits proudly at the pinnacle of the footballing world and is unlikely to be moved by any similar game in the near future. The kick about down the park will be now be replaced with a kick about around the living room courtesy of Konami.

This release sets new standards for the footballing genre that will be very hard to better and this is without a doubt a must purchase title for all fans of football on the PS2 & PC.


Rating: 10/10
Price: £39.99 RRP *
Players: 1-8
Released: 17th October 2003
 
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