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FutebolArte

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No i really am not joking. I dont mean any offesne towards italians im just saying they are natueally very pale. Aint non worng with that its just how it is. calm down.

uh yeah, everybody knows the Mediterraneans... they're so pale and all... man I wish they were dark like those SCANDINAVIANs...

Have you ever even met an italian?? or anybody from that part of the world???

Just because Nedved plays for Juve, doesn't mean he's italian, brah...

:jack:
 

john4

Registered User
dam you really like your classic players!its never bothered me purely because i never use them since they are awesome!you do bring up a good point though, they could always do what they did with the germans back in pes5 or something, the unlicensed germany team all had random faces but all the proper faces were in the edit mode strangley enough!
 

Magono

RaPiD 'MaGz' of the PeP
but don't you think that is the only thing that is good about pes 09, the faces? The body movements, the leg speeds, the animations they look current generation. Why is the ball moving like it's on ice? Why the players move so square? Fifa 09 is looking better than anything pes has created.

You have no place here. Be gone. :realmad:
 

Amateur

Registered User
dam you really like your classic players!its never bothered me purely because i never use them since they are awesome!you do bring up a good point though, they could always do what they did with the germans back in pes5 or something, the unlicensed germany team all had random faces but all the proper faces were in the edit mode strangley enough!

Well, that's exactly my point.. you haven't been bothered much by the "Classic Players", most people don't care much about the Classic Players.. Why?? Because they look Cheap, would you use Kaka or Cristiano Ronaldo if they had cheap-looking random Faces??

If Konami edited their faces -or- (as you said) included their faces in the Edit Mode, then more fans would be into using and "unlocking" classic players. It would give a whole new meaning to the "PES Shop".

And again, I find it extremely odd that Not much people are annoyed by that.. a Football Fan that doesn't cares about the likes of Diego Maradona or Pele?? Where else can I get this two playing on the same Team?

I'm just saying that, it would be cool to see the "Classic Players" with fully edited faces and Stats.. it would be cool to have All-Time best XI Teams, and who doesn't haves a favorite player?? I'd much rather have Valderrama or Zidane over Kaka or Cristiano Ronaldo. Oh well, at least there's Juan Roman Riquelme.
 

proevofan88

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uh yeah, everybody knows the Mediterraneans... they're so pale and all... man I wish they were dark like those SCANDINAVIANs...

Have you ever even met an italian?? or anybody from that part of the world???

Just because Nedved plays for Juve, doesn't mean he's italian, brah...

:jack:

I dont know waht you are tryingto get at....but im from croatia buddy and i have seen plenty of italians. Thanks.
 

Lorenzinho

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No i really am not joking. I dont mean any offesne towards italians im just saying they are natueally very pale. Aint non worng with that its just how it is. calm down.

No i'm not angry, you're just stupid. :rolleyes:

The term tall, dark and Italian never register with you? If anything you Croats are paler than us.
 

proevofan88

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No i'm not angry, you're just stupid. :rolleyes:

The term tall, dark and Italian never register with you. If anything you Croats are paler than us.

shoulda known ur italian and stupid. And no for sure we are not paler lol...i dont think you should be talking much after what your side displayed at the EURO CUP...italy is not what it used to be.
 

Pierre

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i think to get proper faces for the classic players would mean sigining a liscencing deal with each individual as I doubt they are members of Fifpro anymore....
 

Lorenzinho

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shoulda known ur italian and stupid. And no for sure we are not paler lol...i dont think you should be talking much after what your side displayed at the EURO CUP...italy is not what it used to be.

Haha very good. I'm more intelligent than you dare to imagine.

Your lack of intelligence shows when you bring a competition we didn't even care about into the argument. Anyway, if that's your line of discussion, then those 4 World Cups clearly outstrip those trophies...wait, Croatia haven't won much.

Anyway. Good screens, let's see some more.
 

proevofan88

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Haha very good. I'm more intelligent than you dare to imagine.

Your lack of intelligence shows when you bring a competition we didn't even care about into the argument. Anyway, if that's your line of discussion, then those 4 World Cups clearly outstrip those trophies...wait, Croatia haven't won much.

Anyway. Good screens, let's see some more.

After the past world cup you guys have not done shit.....Croatia just became an independent country about 15 yrs ago.....in 1993 then 5 yrs later they are ranked 3rd in the world...and now they are ranked 5th in the world...for a country with only 4.5 million inhabitants I'd say that's pretty good. Name a good team that your country beat at the EURO. Croatia not only beat Germany but they spanked em bad. Were Germany not the finalists? wow

As I said before I dont have anything against Italians, I like them and I rooted for them during the finals of WC 2006....but you are just one of those soft little dudes who gets easily offended and looks for drama, kind of like a female I'd say.

Srry I dont have anymore pics.
 

Amateur

Registered User
i think to get proper faces for the classic players would mean sigining a liscencing deal with each individual as I doubt they are members of Fifpro anymore....

I can see why you would think that.. However, back in PES5, Konami did NOT had the License to have a fully edited Germany side -and- yet, the faces of most of the German players where in the Edit Mode.

So, the German players had random Names, random Faces -but- their Real Faces where in the Edit Mode.

Why can't they do the same with the Classic Players??

They can name them whatever they want, I couldn't care less.. However, Konami should show some Decency and AT LEAST include their Real Faces in the Edit Mode. I don't know about you, but I would prefer to see Pele and Maradona in High Def Graphics -rather- than Pater Crouch and Dirk Kuyt.

And again, IF they can include a Fully Licensed Argentina side in the game -then- Why can't they add the 1986 Version of Diego Armando Maradona?? Shouldn't the AFA decide that? I don't think Konami needs a Licensing deal with each Individual.

In fact, in PES6, when Zidane had already retired, Konami included Zinedine Zidane fully edited in the French National Team.. They can do the exact same with Baggio in Italy, Pele and Romario in Brazil, Maradona in Argentina, Cruyff in Netherlands, Valderrama in Colombia, etc, etc..

I think it's more a case of Konami not taking the Time to include this details, and honestly I'm still puzzled as to Why they still haven't done this -because- many Football Fans would Notice Classic Players a lot more -than- a Stadium..

Who notices the Stadiums during Gameplay?? In my Opinion, Fully Edited Classic Players would be a much more welcomed addition.
 

FutebolArte

Registered User
I can see why you would think that.. However, back in PES5, Konami did NOT had the License to have a fully edited Germany side -and- yet, the faces of most of the German players where in the Edit Mode.

So, the German players had random Names, random Faces -but- their Real Faces where in the Edit Mode.

Why can't they do the same with the Classic Players??

They can name them whatever they want, I couldn't care less.. However, Konami should show some Decency and AT LEAST include their Real Faces in the Edit Mode. I don't know about you, but I would prefer to see Pele and Maradona in High Def Graphics -rather- than Pater Crouch and Dirk Kuyt.

And again, IF they can include a Fully Licensed Argentina side in the game -then- Why can't they add the 1986 Version of Diego Armando Maradona?? Shouldn't the AFA decide that? I don't think Konami needs a Licensing deal with each Individual.

In fact, in PES6, when Zidane had already retired, Konami included Zinedine Zidane fully edited in the French National Team.. They can do the exact same with Baggio in Italy, Pele and Romario in Brazil, Maradona in Argentina, Cruyff in Netherlands, Valderrama in Colombia, etc, etc..

I think it's more a case of Konami not taking the Time to include this details, and honestly I'm still puzzled as to Why they still haven't done this -because- many Football Fans would Notice Classic Players a lot more -than- a Stadium..

Who notices the Stadiums during Gameplay?? In my Opinion, Fully Edited Classic Players would be a much more welcomed addition.

much rather they spend the looch on that than an EPL license or La Liga license...
 

Amateur

Registered User
much rather they spend the looch on that than an EPL license or La Liga license...

What looch?? How hard do you think editing a few Faces is??

Instead of editing so many Average players.. Why not edit some Classic players instead?? It is nothing difficult, they already have the Licenses from most National Teams, so it would be a matter of simply adding a few Faces to the Edit Mode.

Remember the "Special Haircuts"?? the ones that included Roberto Baggio's trademark hairstyle, Valderrama's huge fro, and Zidane's hairstyle.. They could do the same with the Faces, maybe add some "Special Faces" to the Editing Mode.

This way we could look for them faces and create Classic Players that actually look like their real-life counterparts used to look.. and it is nothing Illegal as they already have many National Teams fully licensed -and- They have already done the same with Zinedine Zidane in PES6, so I don't see why they cannot do the same with the rest of the Classics.
 

chinaman

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Fifa is not looking better. Graphics and gameplay are both a win for Pes. Look at the videos for Pes09 and compare them to Fifa 09. Which one resembles real football?
I'm not a pes fanboy. I just buy the best football game and almost all the time I end up getting Pes. Pes is surly bettr this year. Last year the gap between them closed down but this year it became bigger again. The body movements in Pes 09 are very good. The defending is back to normal so far too. So I can't seea reason to say Fifa is better.

Umm I used to love PES but fifa 08 was the best football game eevr made and fifa 09 looks like a great improvement.

In other words fifa 08 and fifa 09 resembles real football, and pro evo is an arcade. Pro used to be much better than fifa until last year and this year pes looks exactly the same as pes 08 whereas fifa have improved on gameplay. There's realistic collisions, movements and the ball moves with realistic ball physics. In Pro, it just seems to move like its on ice without bouncing. The players move in square movements and apart from the faces, the player models look current generation. I cant believe you think pes looks better graphically?!?!

The gap has become bugger again because fifa 09 has improved again whereas pro has stagnated.

Ive watched videos for both and I just cant understand how anyone who plays the game would prefer pro evo.

Im sure Im going to get replies to this saying Im a fifa fanboy etc, but its my opinion and Im sure when the games come out, you will all be disappointed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO3ghD83c34&feature=related

Have a watch of the above fifa 09 gamepla video. Pause the screen at 1.02 mins and tell me that Ronaldo free kick isnt life like.
 

chinaman

Registered User
nope, would like to see it though if you could provide me with a link.

But my point is, the graphics on fifa 09 are absolutely stunning, and you could mistake it for real life. But the bonus is they have improved gameplay this year.
 
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