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All fur-coat and no knickers.
Same old shit under new gloss.
...and they've taken away even more control so now the inconsistencies in play at higher levels and at online play are utterly glaring.
Also, controls feel 'clunky', and the hidden depth of skill is gone.
The RNG is extremely strong with this one.
Been playing MyClub and it's the usual story - moments of brilliance i.e. when everything works as it should, then of course at some point in the game the wheels come off, players will just shut down or run momentarily away from the ball at crucial times, they don't help you or provide options - you're forced down the wing and defenders just shut you down no matter what shit you try to pull off, at least in previous versions if you were skilful enough you could get out of a tight spot, nah not here not now. Also, shooting becomes extremely stupid - same generic misses over and over - utter de'ja vu.
They'll change the graphics but never the problematic core programming - same old stupid fucking scripted shit right at the game's core. It's fucking retarded now - really can't ignore it. Love the good bits (i.e. when the game actually works as it should) but then when the AI decides fun is over there really is no point in playing. The game has split personality, and the programming is the problem, it was in the last version and the one before that. Sometimes you get to play the way you want (things work) then for a while you get bottlenecked (you'll find suddenly you are stuck in midfield your players don't offer support and if you try to flick to the player in front to make him go on a run he won't he just walks alongside the defenders and you have no options, or when you break your striker always receives the ball (alone) at around halfway mark with 3-4 defenders in front of him - or hyper defenders catching him up the moment you try to cut in from a run down the wing. Then it get super stupid - ball runs through you when trying to intercept, players don't react (become stunned) or momentarily run away at important times and your cursor just stops working while AI decides its time for a goal. It's shocking - complete split personality, the question is why?
It's to keep the game competitive that's why (that's Konami's way of giving us AI interaction and governing online play) - but why not just allow people to play the way they want - not be governed by RNG shit. In previous titles if you were really REALLY good (i.e. amazing timing and spatial awareness for skills) you could take it around practically everyone yes you could would eventually get the ball taken off you but you could go on a mazey run where you take it around 4-5 people if you had the timing and read the game - as it should be! Finding success in the game for having skill and intelligence.
Now you just get closed down - simple as that, try a trick in a tight spot? Nah. Try a double tap quick twist and run, executed perfectly and while defender overcommitted? Nah, blanket tackled (even though the opposing player wasn't even facing you when he tackled). Try a draw and pull with a stepover once you know the defender has committed himself ..nah he instant recovers while managing (off balance of course) to knock you off the ball. Try to draw the defender down a corner to hopefully cut back quickly? Nah, he instant recovers even though theoretically you've done everything right. Could go on and on and on....Nah blanket tackled! Not even going to get started on the generic shooting and super keepers.
With MyClub difficulty goes up exponentially so now it's just stupid, computer deciding when I can do things, when things will work. Nah fuck that. Stay offline, which is sad because this is how they are providing the interaction - your mistakes will largely not be your own at higher levels.
But that's only when you don't have the 'advantage' - when you do have it you can weave past players doing the usual but the issue is consistency - RNG dictates what's going to happen even when you have the 'advantage' so the consistency is completely gone. You can do the perfect trick in the perfect situation with perfect timing and you get past a player, 2 mins you could do the same thing and you don't. Now this is ok if it's consistent but that's the problem even that isn't - the AI will just bully you when it wants and then decide when you're allowed to play --- of course I'm talking at higher levels btw. It's a travesty and I'm surprised more people aren't standing up about it. Maybe when the dust settles and after the initial "fuck yea PES is brilliant this year! Better than FIFA ... AGAIN!!!" fan-boy nonsense dies down people will hopefully come to their senses.
I keep hoping with each version they're fix the core but nah they never do, just another cheap paint job with the same shit problems all well preserved. The only thing new, besides the paintjob is the greater lack of control you now have given that the AI just blanket-tackles any tricks you try whenever it wants - RNG combined with scripting, the perfect combination to keep stupid people happy.
Sad times for this series. The stupid cunts/kids love it and sadly they're the majority. But veterans like me get to see the series trashed and turned into another stupid yearly cash-in like Call of Duty - same crap just with new graphics. Greedy and lazy.
Same old shit under new gloss.
...and they've taken away even more control so now the inconsistencies in play at higher levels and at online play are utterly glaring.
Also, controls feel 'clunky', and the hidden depth of skill is gone.
The RNG is extremely strong with this one.
Been playing MyClub and it's the usual story - moments of brilliance i.e. when everything works as it should, then of course at some point in the game the wheels come off, players will just shut down or run momentarily away from the ball at crucial times, they don't help you or provide options - you're forced down the wing and defenders just shut you down no matter what shit you try to pull off, at least in previous versions if you were skilful enough you could get out of a tight spot, nah not here not now. Also, shooting becomes extremely stupid - same generic misses over and over - utter de'ja vu.
They'll change the graphics but never the problematic core programming - same old stupid fucking scripted shit right at the game's core. It's fucking retarded now - really can't ignore it. Love the good bits (i.e. when the game actually works as it should) but then when the AI decides fun is over there really is no point in playing. The game has split personality, and the programming is the problem, it was in the last version and the one before that. Sometimes you get to play the way you want (things work) then for a while you get bottlenecked (you'll find suddenly you are stuck in midfield your players don't offer support and if you try to flick to the player in front to make him go on a run he won't he just walks alongside the defenders and you have no options, or when you break your striker always receives the ball (alone) at around halfway mark with 3-4 defenders in front of him - or hyper defenders catching him up the moment you try to cut in from a run down the wing. Then it get super stupid - ball runs through you when trying to intercept, players don't react (become stunned) or momentarily run away at important times and your cursor just stops working while AI decides its time for a goal. It's shocking - complete split personality, the question is why?
It's to keep the game competitive that's why (that's Konami's way of giving us AI interaction and governing online play) - but why not just allow people to play the way they want - not be governed by RNG shit. In previous titles if you were really REALLY good (i.e. amazing timing and spatial awareness for skills) you could take it around practically everyone yes you could would eventually get the ball taken off you but you could go on a mazey run where you take it around 4-5 people if you had the timing and read the game - as it should be! Finding success in the game for having skill and intelligence.
Now you just get closed down - simple as that, try a trick in a tight spot? Nah. Try a double tap quick twist and run, executed perfectly and while defender overcommitted? Nah, blanket tackled (even though the opposing player wasn't even facing you when he tackled). Try a draw and pull with a stepover once you know the defender has committed himself ..nah he instant recovers while managing (off balance of course) to knock you off the ball. Try to draw the defender down a corner to hopefully cut back quickly? Nah, he instant recovers even though theoretically you've done everything right. Could go on and on and on....Nah blanket tackled! Not even going to get started on the generic shooting and super keepers.
With MyClub difficulty goes up exponentially so now it's just stupid, computer deciding when I can do things, when things will work. Nah fuck that. Stay offline, which is sad because this is how they are providing the interaction - your mistakes will largely not be your own at higher levels.
But that's only when you don't have the 'advantage' - when you do have it you can weave past players doing the usual but the issue is consistency - RNG dictates what's going to happen even when you have the 'advantage' so the consistency is completely gone. You can do the perfect trick in the perfect situation with perfect timing and you get past a player, 2 mins you could do the same thing and you don't. Now this is ok if it's consistent but that's the problem even that isn't - the AI will just bully you when it wants and then decide when you're allowed to play --- of course I'm talking at higher levels btw. It's a travesty and I'm surprised more people aren't standing up about it. Maybe when the dust settles and after the initial "fuck yea PES is brilliant this year! Better than FIFA ... AGAIN!!!" fan-boy nonsense dies down people will hopefully come to their senses.
I keep hoping with each version they're fix the core but nah they never do, just another cheap paint job with the same shit problems all well preserved. The only thing new, besides the paintjob is the greater lack of control you now have given that the AI just blanket-tackles any tricks you try whenever it wants - RNG combined with scripting, the perfect combination to keep stupid people happy.
Sad times for this series. The stupid cunts/kids love it and sadly they're the majority. But veterans like me get to see the series trashed and turned into another stupid yearly cash-in like Call of Duty - same crap just with new graphics. Greedy and lazy.