Advanced Formations (Images)

[o0oGedo0o]

ok then

......................Van Der Sar..........................
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.Silvestre...Brown/Oshea.....Ferdinand...Heinze..
..........................Park Ji Sung......................
..C.Ronaldo/Fletcher.............Giggs/Fortune/Saha
.......................Scholes/Alan Smith...............
...........Rooney.................Nistelrooy/Solskjaer​

Despite real life, Park has proven to me he's as good as Keane in DMF position.

defender arrows are on high, Midfielders normal and forwards low (including OMF)

 

[Pro P.I.M.P]

Will JMZ be back with sum templates for his latest PES5 formations because I tried out his latest one but I don't fink that i positioned the players properly and he never mentioned all the attacking arrows and defensive settings!

 

[observer]

Ok, this took more than 2 hours on Visio. I hope it works.

This is one of my master league formations. It works wonders against human opponent as well. Of course, players selection is crucial here to suit any of these formations. Pay attention to special abilitities of players. For example, 2 CBs, and your sweeper (in formation B) should have a back line special ability, I think its called D-line. I might elaborate more on special abilities needed in each position, and I will add a complete line up later.

Formation A: very balanced. with a little twist in attacking level can be very attacking or securely defensive.

Formation B: My favorite infront of defensive players and in counter attacks. Endless options in offense. Try to cross the ballt to your opponent area, and at any time four players will be waiting to finish it off. Strange enough, it is secured in the back, especially if your opponent depends on through balls from center attack. IMO, in WE9 an PEs5, 3 at the back with a sweeper is better in defending through balls (again if your players have the right abilities).

Formation C: very defensiive. I rarely use it. I just thought to add it here to have one complete set of formations. but of course it is secure and can be dangerous in counter.

Try it and enjoy.

-Observer

(I hope the attachment work, cause this is my first time to add a pic).

 

[Barry]

Cheers, Ill try it out later.

 

[Pro P.I.M.P]

Ok, this took more than 2 hours on Visio. I hope it works.

This is one of my master league formations. It works wonders against human opponent as well. Of course, players selection is crucial here to suit any of these formations. Pay attention to special abilitities of players. For example, 2 CBs, and your sweeper (in formation B) should have a back line special ability, I think its called D-line. I might elaborate more on special abilities needed in each position, and I will add a complete line up later.

Formation A: very balanced. with a little twist in attacking level can be very attacking or securely defensive.

Formation B: My favorite infront of defensive players and in counter attacks. Endless options in offense. Try to cross the ballt to your opponent area, and at any time four players will be waiting to finish it off. Strange enough, it is secured in the back, especially if your opponent depends on through balls from center attack. IMO, in WE9 an PEs5, 3 at the back with a sweeper is better in defending through balls (again if your players have the right abilities).

Formation C: very defensiive. I rarely use it. I just thought to add it here to have one complete set of formations. but of course it is secure and can be dangerous in counter.

Try it and enjoy.

-Observer

(I hope the attachment work, cause this is my first time to add a pic).

Geers observer! I will try this out!

 

[dazmister]

i find the second one works very well against human opponents too.
cheers mate.

 

[dazmister]

Hello fellas just a flying visit, at my sisters house, she has no photoshop so this is a very basic description for now, but here is what I am using to conquer all in ML on 6 stars. Up to mid season in 2008, won the league every year, D1 cup twice, WEFA Masters once and WEFA Champs once. This season is going beautifully as I'm used to the game now.

Formation A
--------GK--------
RB--- CB CW ---LB
-------DM--------
----CM-----------
--------AM-------
---SS-------SS--
--------CF-------

Forward arrows on full backs, slightly in front of the centre back and sweeper to encourage attacking.
Forward arrow on CM. Place the midfield a little like Chelsea and Man Scum... sorry Man Utd.
Diagonal forward arrows on Support strikers toward goal and corner flags. Place the SS's on the corners of the 18yd box.
Forward arrow on a pacy striker (eg. Ronaldo), but not on a post player (eg. Shearer).
Back Line B
Zone press A or B
Offside Trap B
Counter attack A

Formation B
---------GK----------
-------CB--CW-------
RWB---CM--DM---LWB
----------AM---------
------SS------SS----
----------CF----------

Push the defence high as near to the half way line as you can get to play offside and pressure high up the field.
Put the midfield in a line with the wing backs and centre midfielder slightly advanced. Line them just on the half way line. Attacking arrows on all midfielders, point them towards gaps in the opposition.
SS's and striker the same as form A.
Back Line - down to preference, B is most efficient
Zone Press A
Offside Trap A
Counter Attack A

Play to keep the ball when in posession, and play to sit deep and counter when defending. You may want to revise your tactics by dropping an SS into centre midfield when you play against five in midfield as you can easily get outnumbered and it becomes difficult to reach your front men. Only use the formation B when you desperately need a goal as it is very open at the back, although the wing backs do well to get back.

Some players I have...
Yashin and Schmeichel in goal.
Bobby Moore
Krol
Baresi
Nesta
Oscar Ruggeri
Facchetti
Rob Carlos
Breitner
Rijkaard
Beckenbauer
Gerrard
Donadoni
Bertoni
Nedved
Ronaldinho
Ronaldo
Van Basten
Shearer
Stoichkov
Rummenigge

There is more I think I just cant remember. Anyway it is a quality side which has taken ages to build up.
I would like to say I'll be back again but you never know....

genius....pure genius.

cheerz mate,worx for me.

 

[observer]

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My cuurent line up with the upper formations:
Goal keeper: Curci, Chech, Schmeichel.

CB: Moore*, Hetinga*, Kruger, Stam, Rickaard* (D-line control is a must).

LSB: Amoros*, Kaabi*, Cardozo

RSB: Krol,Van Den Borre

CMF1: Mascherano*, Mbami, Iniesta

CMF2: Neskeen, Sneider, C. Ronaldo* (Technique is important, this CMF pushes forward to be a wing in the secon formation)

OMF: Kaiser*, Pele*, Shuster. (This position is the anchor of this formation, and always the top scorer)

LW: Roonie*, Griffiths *, Reyes, Gambino * (brilliant!). (1-1 Score, speed, technique)

RW: Robinho, Orellano *. (1-1 Score, speed, technique)

CF: Caracciolo*, Tostao, Tevez, and Shwarz ( though it is rarely to be found, line positioning ability is imporant here).

To be continued...

Many players can play in different positions, of course.

 

[dyfswillz]

observer formation

hey observer, thanks for making the effort in posting you're formation.
who do you think would be the best club side to use this formation with, because when i play against my mates we play club games and not master league. Ive taken note that the defence needs d-line star and Ac milan seem to have the best defence so would they be the best bet? but on the other hand they don't have out and out rwf/lwf so im not sure if this formation would suit them due to them playing slow passing football and not quick counter attacking football. Anyway please post you're view

 

[observer]

Just had couple of games with AC, for the first time. In contrary to Barca and Juvi, they have amazing squad in the game with stats that match their abilities in real life.

I played against Brazil on 6 stars and won 2/0 and 4/1.

I tried the same upper formation 4-3-1-3 only changed my formation B to 4 4 2 (2 OMFs, and 2 CFs). I noticed 442 also works so well with the team as they have good mid feild players such as Seedorf, R. costa and Kaka. I tried the following line up:

GK Dida

CBs: Nesta and Stam.
Tough defensers, really. they do have D-line control special ability that help them control the defense line, especially in offside.

SB: Maldini, Cafu. I gave cafu offensive arrows in my 4,4,2.

CMFs: Gattuso & seedorf. As a matter of fact, my CMF1 in 4-2-1-3 formation acts as DMF. But, personally, I prefer to have him a CMF with defensive orientation to have him move freely and, when I slow down the pace, participate in offense.

OMF: I tried R.Costa and Kaka, and both acually scored. As I said, I rely a lot on this position and score many goals by my OMF with this formation.

RW: Kaka or Inzagi.
LW: Vieri or Gilardino.
CF: Sheva. One of the best in this game. I could have used him easily as LW or RW and let Veiri, Inzagi or Gilardino as my main CF. Howver, I prefer to have him as a CF cause he is a goal waiting to happen. He is the only one in this line up with Line Positioning special ability. This helps him have forward runs and in the meantime not to fall in the offside.

I tried this formation yesterday with Chelsea against a good human opponent (he plays with AC) and worked really well. It was the first time I play with him. In the begining, I lost 2 games in a row with Barca and Juvi, then I had a good come back and won 6 in a row with Chelsea .

It was the first time I try them, as I rarely play with clubs. I guess similar to your friends, my friend yesterday freaked out from my master league team and insisted in playing only with clubs

Just a final note, I don't think 4,3,1,3 is mainly a counter football. Actually, I use it a lot to keep the ball and play slow passing football. You would just need to rely on your dribbiling technique here, especially against human opponents, where pressure is much feirce. I think it works both ways.

 

[Pro P.I.M.P]

Observer have u tested your formation with any of these yeams; Inter,Juventus, Real Madrid or Arsenal? Would u be able to tell me the best players from each of these teams to use for your formation ecspecially inter as i use them alot?

 

[jMz]

Is it sad that I'm on here on Xmas Eve?
Well it's better than sitting watching Come Dancing. Which is why I'm here, to escape that nightmare. I'm at my Ma's and everyone has gone home now. I haven't brought my PS2, big mistake.....

Anyway, here is an update of my ML formation, it has evolved a little.

-------GK-------
-RB--CB--CW--LB-

--CM--CM--CM--
-------OM------

-----CF--CF----

Back Line - C
Zone Press - B
Offside Trap - B
Counter Attack -A

Put the defence in a perfect line on the 18yd box, all on high defence, no arrows. D-Line is hugely important, so if anyone gets through, they'll be offside anyway (hopefully). The idea is you'll always have the back four defending, allowing your midfiled to run riot.

Put the 3CM's just inside the half way line (nearer defence) with the right and left players with attack arrows. The centre man should also be a DM incase you need to switch to a diamond. Normal defense arrows.

The OM is the centre piece and you need an outstanding player here, he needs to pass and shoot most importantly, but a bit of dribbling flair wouldn't go a miss. Also it would help if he is strong so he can hold the ball up. Normal or Low defence, no attack arrow (he'll get forward anyway, and this will allow him to float left and right, allowing him to link with the on-running CM's, otherwise he is on his own really).

Usual rule of thumb can't really fail here, a big man and a pacy trickster. Low Defence, and no arrows. You can tweak the forwards as much as you want though, as there is stability behind them all the way.

This formation works with almost any team in the game, although if you fill each position with the best possible players, you should find near perfect balance.

A few tweaks of the team aggression can instantly change the whole team from defensive to attacking, without too much risk as your defence stays back (usually)....

As for formation changes, I use different ones against different teams, but you can create almost any variation of the wondrous 4-4-2, and also if he is equipped, you can push the OM up front for extra firepower. You could camp out in your box and knock a long ball up for the three front men. Not pretty but effective if you're 1-0 up with 10 mins to go. You could create a diamond, or a flat line of CM's, or two DM's and two OM's. The possibilities are limitless, as I've stated before many times in this very thread.

Using this formation for the first portion of 2009 on 6 stars my results are like this...
W9 D2 L0 GS17 GC2

Those stats speak for the strength of this formation. When I've conceded, it's been two 4-1 games which I conceded late on pushing for a fifth. And the two draws were 0-0, in which the ball wouldn't go in for me and I've reduced the opposition to two or three wild shots.
Not as attacking as I'd like, but it is very strong, and makes you feel like true champions when you grind your bad games out to win 1-0.

 

[Pro P.I.M.P]

JMZ have you tried out this formation against a human opponent? Will u ever get a chance to make any more templates?

 

[jMz]

JMZ have you tried out this formation against a human opponent? Will u ever get a chance to make any more templates?

Yeah, but only once. I beat my mate 6-1 with it, and he is quite good. He played a very attacking formation, which I defended and countered.
My PC at home (right now I'm at me Ma's for Crimbo) is about shagged and I don't really use it for anything but music these days, not online see. I have tried on several occasions but Photoshop keeps crashing on me and I can't be arsed to sit for hours trying to sort it out.
It's quite sad cos I liked making them, but I'll be getting a new PC before long and you can bet PES will be around for a while yet.

 

[dyfswillz]

4-3-1-2 formation

alright jmz, just wanted to say thanks for posting another brilliant formation. The only thing I change is defencive line to B and line defence. Ive used it tonight against my brother and added a attacking version with the left/right cmf pushed forward a bit and changed to amf with low defence and team setting changed to auto/attack, defencive line A for formation A. For formation B i changed it to a 4-2-2-2- with two dmf.

I hammered him 6-0 first Inter v Barca
Second game i was Wigan and he was Milan. He beat me 1-0 but if wigan had better finishers I'd have won that one too.

Third game I was B.Munich against Lpool and won 4-1.

This formation is brilliant with a fast forward pushed max forward and another e.g. Adriano a bit back to hold up ball.

Anyways im off now, hope other people appreciate you'r work, you've helped me out a lot 2night because I was becoming really frustrated with playing the Chealsea/Man utd formation

 

[Pro P.I.M.P]

alright jmz, just wanted to say thanks for posting another brilliant formation. The only thing I change is defencive line to B and line defence. Ive used it tonight against my brother and added a attacking version with the left/right cmf pushed forward a bit and changed to amf with low defence and team setting changed to auto/attack, defencive line A for formation A. For formation B i changed it to a 4-2-2-2- with two dmf.

I hammered him 6-0 first Inter v Barca
Second game i was Wigan and he was Milan. He beat me 1-0 but if wigan had better finishers I'd have won that one too.

Third game I was B.Munich against Lpool and won 4-1.

This formation is brilliant with a fast forward pushed max forward and another e.g. Adriano a bit back to hold up ball.

Anyways im off now, hope other people appreciate you'r work, you've helped me out a lot 2night because I was becoming really frustrated with playing the Chealsea/Man utd formation

Mate could u make a template of your variation of the JMZ formation because I am also having touble with the 4-2-1-3 formation?

 

[observer]

Tonight after 6 hours of pure winning 11 experience with a very feirce opponent, I won with 3 games difference. My current formation is 3*4*3 against 4*3*3. This is a an illustration of my formation:

--------GK------
--------SW-----
----CB-------CB----
--------------------
----DMF1--DMF2----
--------------------
-----CMF----------
------------------
-----------OMF----
-------------------
---------------LWF--
--ST----------------
---------CF---------

Defending with 3 at the back and 2 DMF has proven to be very secure, especially in controlling the midfeild area. My opponent was force to play on the sides, and most of his crosses were at my keeper''s hands.

Hopefully, I will illustrate this formation in a better template soon.

 

[ahroi84]

Is this for winning eleven 9 formation or 8? I like to winning eleven since from Winning Elven4 untill nw... but i feel that WE9 is very hard to play, it seems like the tactics i everytime use not working any more? does any 1 have any good tactics for WE9?

 

[kingersalad]

For PES5.
Now I use A A A A tactics.
4 man back line. All high defense. HB's have forward attack arrow. All just barely in their defensive area. As high up as they can go without being labeled midfielders.

Then 5 midfielders. A DM, 2 CM's, and 2 SMs. All with high defense. All with forward attack arrows, and all with 2nd arrow pointing more towards the middle (except the DM).

One CF with medium defense.

After trying many formations, including one year of 2-6-2, I found this to be by far most effective. Just be patient about getting a goal, and it will come. Rarely will give up goals. It's like a mix of catenaccio and total football.

^ this is against the computer. Human players might be a lot more creative with through balls.

 

[ahroi84]

For PES5.
Now I use A A A A tactics.
4 man back line. All high defense. HB's have forward attack arrow. All just barely in their defensive area. As high up as they can go without being labeled midfielders.

Then 5 midfielders. A DM, 2 CM's, and 2 SMs. All with high defense. All with forward attack arrows, and all with 2nd arrow pointing more towards the middle (except the DM).

One CF with medium defense.

After trying many formations, including one year of 2-6-2, I found this to be by far most effective. Just be patient about getting a goal, and it will come. Rarely will give up goals. It's like a mix of catenaccio and total football.

^ this is against the computer. Human players might be a lot more creative with through balls.

huh? wat do u mean? do u ahve any pic to show? n wats the tactics?