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Data Pack 1 Released

david_bueno

Registered User
Hi guys... can someone tell me how to swap teams between leagues (i.e: Brescia from Other European Teams to Italian Serie B)?
Is this even possible?
 

pEst410

Registered User
Just read through this whole thread... So disappointed. I moved to PES a few years ago after getting fed up with FIFA's last-second goal scripting, and now I may finally give up football games for good.

For me, besides the transfers missing it's the lack of stats updates that really ruins it for me... I play mostly Liga NOS and Benfica's youngsters are all wrong, stats way too low (N. Semedo especially), and the positions... a RB is a CMF, a RMF is a CF, WTF? Jonas should be one of Benfica's top 3 players along with Gaitán (86) and Júlio César (81) and in PES he is a 74 (I think he was 79 last year???)! So even with the roster complete, I don't play with real life line ups because I sell half my team, what's the point?

The worst is I can genuinely say Konami cost me a lot of money with this... I bought a PS4 the weekend before this game's release, should have just waited and bought it cheaper later (price came down a couple of weeks ago)! And I bought the game on day 1 expecting full rosters 2 weeks after transfer deadline, whether already in the game or with a day 1 patch, as would be reasonable...

Never again, had always bought 2nd hand before, will do again next year IF Konami sorts at least the transfers in the next week or two. Sick of holding on playing ML, other games coming out and me waiting like an idiot, time to move on to something else soon (so I give my new PS4 some purpose!!!). Spent hours updating kits for this...

There's NO EXCUSE for the rosters to be correct online since a month ago and the Data Pack to come out without the last day's transfers 2 MONTHS AFTER DEADLINE, it's like a sick prank on us! In trying to force us online so they can make more money they're pushing us all away from the game altogether.
 

Ali

It is happening again
For me, besides the transfers missing it's the lack of stats updates that really ruins it for me... I play mostly Liga NOS and Benfica's youngsters are all wrong, stats way too low (N. Semedo especially), and the positions... a RB is a CMF, a RMF is a CF, WTF? Jonas should be one of Benfica's top 3 players along with Gaitán (86) and Júlio César (81) and in PES he is a 74 (I think he was 79 last year???)! So even with the roster complete, I don't play with real life line ups because I sell half my team, what's the point?

It's the same with a lot of the added players. They import them with a default position eg if there's a player who is a midfielder in real life (lets say, a LMF), he will be imported as a CMF. They also give him default attributes. This is why you'll see a lot of players with exactly the same attributes, eg:

http://www.pesmaster.com/derik-osede/pes-2016/player/107587/
and
http://www.pesmaster.com/r-holding/pes-2016/player/109571/

http://www.pesmaster.com/k-woolery/pes-2016/player/107708/
and
http://www.pesmaster.com/t-walker/pes-2016/player/108372/

The latter two are not CMFs in real life. Even for bigger teams, they just haven't altered the attributes, so Dele Alli for example (Spurs player) is only rated 61, when in reality, he's much better than that.

Just shows the lack of care and research they put into getting accurate team and player information.
 

jimminy

Registered User
[MENTION=180300]pEst410[/MENTION] Unfortunately I agree with a lot of what you say. I'm from a generation when the internet/patching was not available so games companies had to release games finished. If it wasn't they would take a massive hit to their reputation. Now it seems companies know they can just release an unfinished game with false promises and patch it later. Particularly for footy games as we only have 2 choices.

Sadly there are too many 'fanboys' who make excuses for the likes of PES and Bhatti at every turn and accept the poor standard of service many games companies give us. I don't expect perfection but I do expect some respect from the company for the fact I've given them my money. Look at Bhatti's latest tweet, paraphrased, 'sorry about the offline update but the online update has been working since 2nd of Oct.' Yeah cheers for that, really helpful. Again classic Bhatti distraction technique.

Again all we can do is vote with our £££. I will not be buying PES or FIFA on day 1 again, neither ever seems to be ready. IMO they should have a 2 year cycle but of course why would they give up easy money when they have a hold on the market.

It's the same with a lot of the added players. They import them with a default position eg if there's a player who is a midfielder in real life (lets say, a LMF), he will be imported as a CMF. They also give him default attributes. This is why you'll see a lot of players with exactly the same attributes, eg:

http://www.pesmaster.com/derik-osede/pes-2016/player/107587/
and
http://www.pesmaster.com/r-holding/pes-2016/player/109571/

http://www.pesmaster.com/k-woolery/pes-2016/player/107708/
and
http://www.pesmaster.com/t-walker/pes-2016/player/108372/

The latter two are not CMFs in real life. Even for bigger teams, they just haven't altered the attributes, so Dele Alli for example (Spurs player) is only rated 61, when in reality, he's much better than that.

Just shows the lack of care and research they put into getting accurate team and player information.

Interesting, I wondered why there were so many players with exactly the same stats. It does smack of laziness, surely they could just buy a copy of Football Manager and get a lot of rough info from there?
 

rebelinho

Moderator
It's the same with a lot of the added players. They import them with a default position eg if there's a player who is a midfielder in real life (lets say, a LMF), he will be imported as a CMF. They also give him default attributes.

This explains why a bunch of Benfica wingers were introduced as CFs, although their abilities were a tad different.

Dele Alli, Dier, Oxford, Grealish, Joe Gomez, Browning, Galloway, Iheanacho, Andreas Pereira... And the list continues.

And then they say "we included every player given a squad number". Yeah, I could do this shit as well.
 

SportGameFan

Registered User
To those giving Bhatti the benefit of the doubt here is his tweet dated Sept 24th:

"Hey all, apologies for the roster delay for offline modes, not ideal. PERSONALLY working on tonnes of things to make 29th Oct a better day."

Absolutely pathetic. False promises, possibly lying to the consumer. Then when it goes wrong he's more illusive then Lord Lucan and Jack the Ripper combined.

I rarely like to see people lose their job but the way the guy conducts himself is not fitting of a company the size of Konami.

I think it says a lot about Konami's ethos that they actually promoted him fairly recently. Konami's behaviour leaves a lot to be desired, are they really proud of that pathetic 'data pack?' Bhatti comes out with sound-bites with the express intention of misleading people, he needs to acquire some integrity!

They need to sack him and recruit someone who is actually professional and genuinely cares about the consumer- Bhatti does not meet those criteria!

https://twitter.com/Adam_Bhatti/status/660024552081240065

"My time is spent on the game, not on twitter."

:rolleyes:

So professional! / -: He just adds fuel to the fire, he's a bloody liability!

(Sorry, I'll 'multi quote' next time.)
 

Grand_J

Registered User
Does really nobody know what I have to do to get the roster update after installing the new version? I havent ticked the national and club update boxes and only installed the new data version
 

Ali

It is happening again
[MENTION=231097]SportGameFan[/MENTION] (and anyone else who isn't aware) - you can use the multi quote button to quote more than one post in your reply, instead of double posting. It looks like this -


So press that one on the first post you want to quote (and any subsequent posts), and then the usual
on the final post you want to quote.
 

pEst410

Registered User
It's the same with a lot of the added players. They import them with a default position eg if there's a player who is a midfielder in real life (lets say, a LMF), he will be imported as a CMF. They also give him default attributes. This is why you'll see a lot of players with exactly the same attributes, eg:

http://www.pesmaster.com/derik-osede/pes-2016/player/107587/
and
http://www.pesmaster.com/r-holding/pes-2016/player/109571/

http://www.pesmaster.com/k-woolery/pes-2016/player/107708/
and
http://www.pesmaster.com/t-walker/pes-2016/player/108372/

The latter two are not CMFs in real life. Even for bigger teams, they just haven't altered the attributes, so Dele Alli for example (Spurs player) is only rated 61, when in reality, he's much better than that.

Just shows the lack of care and research they put into getting accurate team and player information.

I didn't know that, but in the cases I mentioned it's not even that... Some have last year's stats, (from when they were relatively unknown so fair enough for last year), and they're higher than 60... Others are new and have higher stats too but they're still low or wrong position... N. Semedo is a RB in real life, here he's a CMF 74, and 70 at RB... Wouldn't be too wrong if he was a 74 at RB... But then Eliseu who is LMF/LB and the worst player in the starting line up is 79! Silvio and A. Almeida are all worse RB's than him and are 79 and 77... Why is G. Guedes a CF and not a RMF??? Just a mess.

[MENTION=180300]pEst410[/MENTION] Unfortunately I agree with a lot of what you say. I'm from a generation when the internet/patching was not available so games companies had to release games finished. If it wasn't they would take a massive hit to their reputation. Now it seems companies know they can just release an unfinished game with false promises and patch it later. Particularly for footy games as we only have 2 choices.

Old school gamer here too, I agree that internet (and consoles) have somewhat ruined gaming for those and other reasons.

Wouldn't be so bad if they actually patched the games, problem is EA, Codemasters and others these days will release ONE patch that fixes only a small part of the biggest technical glitches but will leave out a bunch of game-breaking bugs and not give a toss, call their work as done and move on to next year's game. Kudos to Polyphony Digital though, they released an unfinished GT5 but then patched it and improved it all through a couple of years... I guess this Japanese ethos is inexistent in Konami for some reason...
 

Kraken_988

Registered User
Hi guys... can someone tell me how to swap teams between leagues (i.e: Brescia from Other European Teams to Italian Serie B)?
Is this even possible?

Apparently no one wants to help there to busy with there problems, alright so go to edit mode competition structure and Europe thats how you can swap teams. Cheers mate
 

Emadeddie

Registered User
Apparently no one wants to help there to busy with there problems, alright so go to edit mode competition structure and Europe thats how you can swap teams. Cheers mate

Did you really need to release the Kraken on us
Sorry but it's true everyone busy it's the weekend :blush:

regarding Bueno inquiry , it's not the topic however you go to edit mode & chose competition structure and it's very easy to swap teams from one competition to the other as well as change the rules in Competition (like making the German league 18 teams etc) section above competition structure
although Konami did make an announcement not to edit anything till the data pack 2 comes out in god knows when
 

pEst410

Registered User
When you make these transfers yourselves what do you do to the game plans, do you edit those as well? I have no idea whether most of these players are usually in the starting line-ups or bench or neither...
 

rbcfc1

Registered User
Sorry but kinda of an ignorant question... how do you "swap" teams between leagues? Is there an option on edit mode? I can't see any.

You need Competition structure in edit mode for this, press X on the team you want to move and swap them with a team from the league you want to move them into :)
 

CHFootball

Registered User
I unchecked the boxes for club and national team updates, but now I've decided to get them. Unfortunately, I don't see any options for getting the new rosters. Does anybody know how to download these?
 

paul2478

Moderator
I unchecked the boxes for club and national team updates, but now I've decided to get them. Unfortunately, I don't see any options for getting the new rosters. Does anybody know how to download these?

If you go to edit mode then transfers there should be a option to default, on PS it is usually triangle. This will default every transfer to the data pack default.
 

Earlstriker

Registered User
Such a joke. I think I am done with Konami after this. There's a reason why Kojima left now we all know why. Such a disappointment they just cannot get organised


Earlstriker
 

geeeeee

Registered User
Ha Ha Ha I know it looks like that geeee but I was on this site for a couple of years and they lost my i.d. so I joined last week again, How did you know it was me?

Heh heh, by your tone of voice :tongue:

No I guessed it was you because you answered my question about evo-web being down and I know you are a regular poster on there, and along with your profile name being pretty similar to deco that was a dead giveaway. :)

I know what you mean regarding I.d.'s, I'm always forgetting how many e's are in my user name.
 

whistle

Registered User
Unfortunately the DLC turned back all edited faces to default, but lucky that I didn't work too many players, also strange that Konami kept my Connor Wickham for me as a special gift, he wasn't change back.

I also take a look of the new comer players, terrible that I thought they didn't get a crew for offline players stat, how could a keeper only 165cm for EPL ? the substitute keeper for Liverpool Ryan Fulton was the sample, no one check once before the DLC out for public?

I think may be the online update will be much better cos it could earn more, so sad.
 
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